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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: loosegoose] #8557394
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
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Hey goose, watch this.

Patel is wrong. I totally disagree with that statement. I can be armed at any peaceful protest.

See, people with common sense can discern. People with TDS can't. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557395
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by loosegoose


I'm not gonna get off that easy? Sounds like you think I owe you an explanation. You can go back and read my thread about it if you want.


Could I get the courtesy of a link or the title of the thread?

You're the one who demanded it, you go find it grin

It's in my post history somewhere I'm sure.

Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: loosegoose] #8557396
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
I've carried a gun to every protest I've been to (which, admittedly, is only two), but if I ever attend another, you can bet there'll be a pistol in my pocket. (Along with food and water, radio, and trauma kit in a backpack).


Why would you carry a pistol in your pocket to a protest? Because you can?

Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557397
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Must be embarrassing. Since you can't show me I will go find it.

Jeez.


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557399
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295


Hey goose, watch this.

Patel is wrong. I totally disagree with that statement. I can be armed at any peaceful protest.

See, people with common sense can discern. People with TDS can't. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

I've been saving this meme for the next time someone used the TDS line.

[Linked Image]


Anyway,the kids are in bed so I'm off to the gym to work out.

Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557401
01/31/26 10:18 PM
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LMAO@ The goose!


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557402
01/31/26 10:19 PM
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… got your yoga pants on ?


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: loosegoose] #8557403
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295


Hey goose, watch this.

Patel is wrong. I totally disagree with that statement. I can be armed at any peaceful protest.

See, people with common sense can discern. People with TDS can't. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

I've been saving this meme for the next time someone used the TDS line.

[Linked Image]


Anyway,the kids are in bed so I'm off to the gym to work out.



This makes even less sense. You have TDS to the extreme. I gave you a logical honest answer that Patel was wrong. It actually matches your opinion of what Patel says.

So, if I agree with you I'm an idiot?

Dude, put the shovel down!


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557404
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Why is an Indian our fbi director anyway

… this ain’t my country anymore


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557406
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LOL


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: Blaine County] #8557415
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Law Dog
The permit ended when he attacked Federal law enforcement could be argued.


Please post the video of Pretti attacking an ICE officer leading up to or during the incident. He didn't. Watch the video.

There is nothing illegal about Pretti carrying a handgun on the day he was killed.

Trump, Patel and Noem all showed their true colors on the 2A when they lied and wrongfully blamed the gun, extra magazines and ammunition.

Oh yeah, remember when it was cool to carry at protests?




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This was at the Michigan State Capital at Covid protests.

If I remember correctly , there was zero problems at this peaceful protest. No issues , period.

They even had some of their own policing trash and cleaning it up into bags. They left the area better than it was when they arrived.

Totally peaceful assembly.


100% different than what is going on now.


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557416
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… got punjabis runnin the fbi now ?

… shoot they can barely run a gas station


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557433
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Twisted? The Feds twisted the truth a lot on what this operation was about and how they would carry it out. Targeted operations to get “the worst of the worst” my hind end! At least now they’re refocusing and hopefully bringing some civil liberties back into consideration. Detaining US citizens for hours without access to a lawyer, phone call, etc is illegal and horrible. Just heard a story about a gal who is a US citizen originally from Peru on her way to pick up kid from school got pulled over because of how she looked and asked to show her “papers”. They kept her for over 3 hours before finally accepting she was a citizen. Moral of the story, this is a civil rights disaster first and foremost…..all politics aside, if you are unable to see it, I feel for ya!!

I don’t have time or frankly want to spend much more time arguing about it especially the 2A aspects which y’all have hashed over pretty well. I’ve seen why has happened, I’ve watched all the same videos you have, the Pretti shooting was ridiculous and TERRIBLE action and coordination by supposed law enforcement agents. His previous encounter where he kicked out the taillight I’m sure had no affect on the shooting nor should it have. They had more reason to shoot him for that than what he did when it all went down. Why are these agents walking across streets to confront someone blowing a whistle and then just shove em down to the ground and walk away? You talk about spitting being assault? There’s a reason the new guy in charge says they aren’t to engage as they had been…..he sees the lawsuits coming. Happy trapping! ScottW

Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: loosegoose] #8557459
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by mnsota
First of all,.yahoo news is not where you want to hang your hat on.More twists than the old floor game.
Trump carries conceal.
He has spoke of national carry before,..hope he moves on it.



Trump is a felon and can't handle a gun, let alone carry one. Being the President doesn't exempt anyone from that (unless you believe in a two tiered justice system).


Seems you follow and believe the ones that believe no one is above the law, except them!


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: ScottW] #8557461
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Originally Posted by ScottW
Twisted? The Feds twisted the truth a lot on what this operation was about and how they would carry it out. Targeted operations to get “the worst of the worst” my hind end! At least now they’re refocusing and hopefully bringing some civil liberties back into consideration. Detaining US citizens for hours without access to a lawyer, phone call, etc is illegal and horrible. Just heard a story about a gal who is a US citizen originally from Peru on her way to pick up kid from school got pulled over because of how she looked and asked to show her “papers”. They kept her for over 3 hours before finally accepting she was a citizen. Moral of the story, this is a civil rights disaster first and foremost…..all politics aside, if you are unable to see it, I feel for ya!!

I don’t have time or frankly want to spend much more time arguing about it especially the 2A aspects which y’all have hashed over pretty well. I’ve seen why has happened, I’ve watched all the same videos you have, the Pretti shooting was ridiculous and TERRIBLE action and coordination by supposed law enforcement agents. His previous encounter where he kicked out the taillight I’m sure had no affect on the shooting nor should it have. They had more reason to shoot him for that than what he did when it all went down. Why are these agents walking across streets to confront someone blowing a whistle and then just shove em down to the ground and walk away? You talk about spitting being assault? There’s a reason the new guy in charge says they aren’t to engage as they had been…..he sees the lawsuits coming. Happy trapping! ScottW



Why are people blowing whistles? Why are people blocking traffic?
Why are people harassing ICE?
Why aren't the local LEO's controlling the crowds?
Why aren't the local police arresting people for interfering with ICE operations?
Every thing you have said seems to be programed into your brain.
The local police are the ones that should be doing those things.
But it seems the so called government there is telling them to turn your back and walk away !
Funny how all the corruption and violent protests are in certain cities.
Mainly run by cities that run scams, and steal tax payer monies.
Higher taxes than 90% of the country, in those areas, and they can't make ends meet?
They need the fed to bail them out?
Time the " WOKE " wakes up to reality.


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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557487
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War is not pretty, especially when you're on the losing side. Illegal immigration had gotten out of hand and drastic measures have been put in place to stop and reverse it. Blame those who let it happen, not the ones trying to fix it.

Pretti died while protesting for a cause that contradicts everything the USA is about. Mist of the illegals couldn't give a rats arse about him or our nation of laws. If they did they would have immigrated here legally.

It's unfortunate that some innocent and legal citizens may get caught up in it. Casualties of war is nothing new.

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Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: loosegoose] #8557491
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
I've carried a gun to every protest I've been to (which, admittedly, is only two), but if I ever attend another, you can bet there'll be a pistol in my pocket. (Along with food and water, radio, and trauma kit in a backpack).

Did you accomplish anything? How did you feel when you went home? Worth it or waste of time? Personally, I'd rather go golfing or fishing.

Re: How the media twists the truth [Re: bowhunter27295] #8557532
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I clearly view liberty and the Constitution much differently than most of y'all. The 1A, 2A and 4A are to be protected at all costs. That's what we fight for--not the politicians who say what certain people want to hear.

Just remember the pendulum swings both ways. Those of you who want to selectively restrict Constitutional rights based on politics or even wage war on fellow citizens should reconsider real hard what you are promoting here. And for what? Lies told by politicians who want to stay in power. Watch the dang videos.

The left will take the Whitehouse and both houses of Congress someday. Probably within the next three years. A hard left Democrat (because that's how the pendulum works) will be in charge of the FBI, ATF, etc. The 1A, 2A and 4A will be irreparably damaged by that point.

And good luck opposing a tyrannical government now that Trump, Patel and Noem told you to think protesters shouldn't carry.

Payback will hurt.

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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I just want all of us to have an intelligent and non emotional argument when confronted by either 2A Zealots who hear nothing but legal carry not matter what or antis who say no one should be carrying.

Lawful 2A carriers cannot be associated with hoodlums and paid violent protestors. It will dramatically damage the 2A causes.

I'm in the 2A zealots camp myself. It is a right that applies to everyone, like it or not.

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Originally Posted by ScottW
Twisted? The Feds twisted the truth a lot on what this operation was about and how they would carry it out. Targeted operations to get “the worst of the worst” my hind end! At least now they’re refocusing and hopefully bringing some civil liberties back into consideration. Detaining US citizens for hours without access to a lawyer, phone call, etc is illegal and horrible. Just heard a story about a gal who is a US citizen originally from Peru on her way to pick up kid from school got pulled over because of how she looked and asked to show her “papers”. They kept her for over 3 hours before finally accepting she was a citizen. Moral of the story, this is a civil rights disaster first and foremost…..all politics aside, if you are unable to see it, I feel for ya!!

I don’t have time or frankly want to spend much more time arguing about it especially the 2A aspects which y’all have hashed over pretty well. I’ve seen why has happened, I’ve watched all the same videos you have, the Pretti shooting was ridiculous and TERRIBLE action and coordination by supposed law enforcement agents. His previous encounter where he kicked out the taillight I’m sure had no affect on the shooting nor should it have. They had more reason to shoot him for that than what he did when it all went down. Why are these agents walking across streets to confront someone blowing a whistle and then just shove em down to the ground and walk away? You talk about spitting being assault? There’s a reason the new guy in charge says they aren’t to engage as they had been…..he sees the lawsuits coming. Happy trapping! ScottW



You may see this as a civl rights disaster but just remember what administration caused this immigration disaster that is gonna be real ugly and difficult to clean up.

And as far as reason to be shot, if you get into a tussle with LE and you don't let them know you have a gun, they are trained to go into another gear when a firearm is resent in a tussle. EVERYONE knows that. Pretti made an entirely reckless and stupid decision as a cc gun owner. If he would have raised his hands in the air and said I have a gun he would be alive.

There are basic principles of survival in a fight. If you are outnumbered, you either run or hope you have more fire power and better aim or surrender. He was outnumbered with trained firearm professionals (like them or not). He made an utterly stupid beyond stupid decision. His death is his fault. No one else's.

Whistle blowers are interfering with LE operations. Last I saw, we have been overrun with illegals because of your choice of voting. Illegals cost me and you a lot of money in taxes spent on non tax payers. But fight to keep them here if you want. Makes no sense but nothing does on the left. and if the whistle blowers are in their face they can repel them back. It's like the left wants nothing down about the disgusting theft and illegal immigration that is happening in MNPLS. For the life of me, I do not understand but I have never understood leftists.


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