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Re: Va. Gun ban passed [Re: hippie] #8581717
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Originally Posted by hippie
1. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol which expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock with a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 15 rounds;

2. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, not including an attached tubular device designed to accept and capable of operating only with .22 caliber rimfire ammunition, and that has one or more of the following characteristics: (i) a folding, telescoping, or collapsible stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the rifle; (iii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iv) a grenade launcher; or (v) a threaded barrel capable of accepting (a) a muzzle brake, (b) a muzzle compensator, (c) a sound suppressor, or (d) a flash suppressor;

3. A semi-automatic center-fire pistol that has two or more of the following characteristics: (i) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (ii) the capacity to accept a magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the pistol with the non-trigger hand without being burned; (iv) a threaded barrel capable of accepting (a) a sound suppressor, (b) a flash suppressor, (c) a barrel extender, or (d) a forward handgrip; or (v) a buffer tube, arm brace, or other part that protrudes horizontally behind the pistol grip and is designed or redesigned to allow or facilitate the firing of a firearm from the shoulder;

4. A semi-automatic shotgun that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material that has one of the following characteristics: (i) a folding, telescoping, or collapsible stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the shotgun; (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; (iv) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 15 rounds; or (v) any characteristic of like kind as enumerated in clauses (i) through (iv);

Here's the full text....
https://legiscan.com/VA/text/SB749/2026


Not only eliminated braced pistol but all AR pistols with the mag not in the pistol grip, anything extending past the grip, and barrel shroud language.

Needs to be penalties when unconstitutional laws are passed. And not slaps on the wrists.

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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by trapdog1
Them wimmins belong in the kitchen!


Did I say that?

Let's see if you can answer these questions.

Have we as men FAILED as leaders? Are we being the leaders GOD designed us to be? Did GOD design women to be leaders?

I don't care what you think God tells you, reality tells me that to tell women they shouldn't be prepared to take care of and fend for themselves is stupid.
My wife and I have taught our daughters to be educated and career oriented. If they choose to get married and start a family (one has, and I hope they all do), and put their career on hold for a family, so be it. If they can blend career and family and choose to do so great. But they should not have to depend on anyone else for their well being.
My current supervisor is a woman. She is in that role because she is better at it than anyone else. She deserves the job, and I benefit because she is there. It would be just plain stupid to be mad about because she is a woman.

Re: Va. Gun ban passed [Re: hippie] #8581722
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Not all male leaders are great.

Not all female leaders are great.

You meeting two female leaders that weren't great does not mean that all female leaders are not great. It only means you have only met two female leaders. I'm done.


Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I know in my office no one applied for the leadership position that became available because they would have had to work under women who were both horrible leaders.


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Originally Posted by trapdog1

I don't care what you think God tells you, reality tells me that to tell women they shouldn't be prepared to take care of and fend for themselves is stupid.
My wife and I have taught our daughters to be educated and career oriented. If they choose to get married and start a family (one has, and I hope they all do), and put their career on hold for a family, so be it. If they can blend career and family and choose to do so great. But they should not have to depend on anyone else for their well being.
My current supervisor is a woman. She is in that role because she is better at it than anyone else. She deserves the job, and I benefit because she is there. It would be just plain stupid to be mad about because she is a woman.


We have more in common than you think td, but you have your underwear in a bunch because you don't understand what I am saying. You instantly feigned offense instead of seeing that I was talking about the 100% value of both men and women when they are men and women.

You put words in my mouth thinking I meant women should be barefoot and pregnant and either washing clothes or dishes or cooking. That was very one sided of you and showed your inability to have a coherent conversation. Your understanding of what I am saying is absent as evident by this response you posted.

My daughter is IMMENSELY successful in her job. I mean off the chart. But we raised her to know she is a woman and how valuable a womans role is. She really wants to be a stay at home mom with a man who provides for their family. She loves being a woman and smiles humbly when I tell her how proud I am of her. She is 100% self sufficient but she would really prefer to have a man who can provide the protective bubble for her to be a woman and mother. I too wanted her to be able to take care of herself. But that has nothing to do with a leadership role. It only has to do with her ability to provide for herself sans a man.

Next time we have a conversation, try to remember this. And when someone asks you to answer a question that points the finger back at you, don't be afraid to answer. I will definitely say I have not been the leader I should have been but I ask GOD for help every day.

My other question for you is, did your current supervisor have any competition when she applied for the supervision slot? Hopefully you can answer this one question since you couldn't answer my other three.


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Re: Va. Gun ban passed [Re: OhioBoy] #8581729
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
Not all male leaders are great.

Not all female leaders are great.

You meeting two female leaders that weren't great does not mean that all female leaders are not great. It only means you have only met two female leaders. I'm done.


Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I know in my office no one applied for the leadership position that became available because they would have had to work under women who were both horrible leaders.



With you in this conversation, I am in total agreement. I am done with you also.


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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by hippie
1. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol which expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock with a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 15 rounds;

2. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, not including an attached tubular device designed to accept and capable of operating only with .22 caliber rimfire ammunition, and that has one or more of the following characteristics: (i) a folding, telescoping, or collapsible stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the rifle; (iii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iv) a grenade launcher; or (v) a threaded barrel capable of accepting (a) a muzzle brake, (b) a muzzle compensator, (c) a sound suppressor, or (d) a flash suppressor;

3. A semi-automatic center-fire pistol that has two or more of the following characteristics: (i) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (ii) the capacity to accept a magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the pistol with the non-trigger hand without being burned; (iv) a threaded barrel capable of accepting (a) a sound suppressor, (b) a flash suppressor, (c) a barrel extender, or (d) a forward handgrip; or (v) a buffer tube, arm brace, or other part that protrudes horizontally behind the pistol grip and is designed or redesigned to allow or facilitate the firing of a firearm from the shoulder;

4. A semi-automatic shotgun that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material that has one of the following characteristics: (i) a folding, telescoping, or collapsible stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the shotgun; (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; (iv) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 15 rounds; or (v) any characteristic of like kind as enumerated in clauses (i) through (iv);

Here's the full text....
https://legiscan.com/VA/text/SB749/2026


Not only eliminated braced pistol but all AR pistols with the mag not in the pistol grip, anything extending past the grip, and barrel shroud language.

Needs to be penalties when unconstitutional laws are passed. And not slaps on the wrists.


Back to the subject at hand.


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Va. Gun ban passed [Re: Providence Farm] #8581736
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm


Needs to be penalties when unconstitutional laws are passed. And not slaps on the wrists.


I'll take the 2A Pepsi Challenge with anyone on this site or anywhere and completely get your frustration, but this would be unconstitutional.

Re: Va. Gun ban passed [Re: bowhunter27295] #8581743
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
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Eve was tricked by Satan, Adam was tricked by a woman, very manly and a great leader !


You are referring to before the fall, right?


And how does that make it better ?

I thought the basis to your argument was men were created (also before the fall) as leaders ?

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I got a 2A Pepsi Challenge for you that may tie all this together actually...

How do you explain to a woman that is complaining about needing more gun laws (that clearly has no gun knowledge determined by the things that she is saying) that us having a gun is a right the same as a woman has the right to vote. Both are amendments. 2A & 19A. It proves a point to hit home a little bit... losing an amended right I think.... especially when people think they have a right to drive... but what do we say when she is sharp and then asks well I have to register to vote you should have to register to own a gun... Seems like one to get caught up in.

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When 90% of several counties vote dem, it ain't all wimmin, sorry.

It's democrats, period.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
I got a 2A Pepsi Challenge for you that may tie all this together actually...

How do you explain to a woman that is complaining about needing more gun laws (that clearly has no gun knowledge determined by the things that she is saying) that us having a gun is a right the same as woman has the right to vote. Both are amendments. 2A & 19A. It proves a point to hit home a little bit... losing an amended right I think.... but what do we say when she is sharp and then asks well I have to register to vote you should have to register to own a gun...

Tell her to shut up?

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Originally Posted by Foxpaw

And how does that make it better ?

I thought the basis to your argument was men were created (also before the fall) as leaders ?


You know you are kind of proving my point about male leadership in this day, right?

But how was Eve in a leadership position? She was first tricked by satan then she herself convinced Adam to sin. Think of where we would be today if Adam would have said no to Eve. Think of where we would be if Adam would have said no and been a leader.

By your thought, look at where we are now due to the leadership of Eve.


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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
I got a 2A Pepsi Challenge for you that may tie all this together actually...

How do you explain to a woman that is complaining about needing more gun laws (that clearly has no gun knowledge determined by the things that she is saying) that us having a gun is a right the same as woman has the right to vote. Both are amendments. 2A & 19A. It proves a point to hit home a little bit... losing an amended right I think.... especially when people think they have a right to drive... but what do we say when she is sharp and then asks well I have to register to vote you should have to register to own a gun... Seems like one to get caught up in.


My point is we as men should be the ones asking these questions so our women can be the women they were designed to be. I loved it when my wife was home, even though we were poor as church mice. She had lost her job, and has a better one since. But it was SO NICE to know my wife was at home taking care of our kids.

For goodness sake, at least try to understand my point of view. It is not sexist. It is natural. If you don't like it, fine. I don't like yours but, I do see, from a worldly point, where you are coming from.

My wife's opinion is the number one opinion I ask for when I am making a decision anywhere. Work, home, family, everything. Just keep putting words in my mouth and paying no attention to what I am saying. It proves how objective you are.

Good grief.


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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by OhioBoy
I got a 2A Pepsi Challenge for you that may tie all this together actually...

How do you explain to a woman that is complaining about needing more gun laws (that clearly has no gun knowledge determined by the things that she is saying) that us having a gun is a right the same as woman has the right to vote. Both are amendments. 2A & 19A. It proves a point to hit home a little bit... losing an amended right I think.... but what do we say when she is sharp and then asks well I have to register to vote you should have to register to own a gun...

Tell her to shut up?


She should know better than to even open her mouth, right?

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If you are in favor of women leadership, good for you.

I am not.

Back to the subject at hand from the OP.


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Originally Posted by Blaine County


She should know better than to even open her mouth, right?


Thank you counselor. You may be seated now.


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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by OhioBoy
I got a 2A Pepsi Challenge for you that may tie all this together actually...

How do you explain to a woman that is complaining about needing more gun laws (that clearly has no gun knowledge determined by the things that she is saying) that us having a gun is a right the same as woman has the right to vote. Both are amendments. 2A & 19A. It proves a point to hit home a little bit... losing an amended right I think.... especially when people think they have a right to drive... but what do we say when she is sharp and then asks well I have to register to vote you should have to register to own a gun... Seems like one to get caught up in.


My point is we as men should be the ones asking these questions so our women can be the women they were designed to be. I loved it when my wife was home, even though we were poor as church mice. She had lost her job, and has a better one since. But it was SO NICE to know my wife was at home taking care of our kids.

For goodness sake, at least try to understand my point of view. It is not sexist. It is natural. If you don't like it, fine. I don't like yours but, I do see, from a worldly point, where you are coming from.

Good grief.


It is sexist. You think all woman were designed to be one way and do one thing that you approve of and you want to cite religion. That is the flaw in your logic that makes it sexist.

Not all woman are the same... Im guessing your wife couldn't do this... but maybe this isn't an example of a good woman leader though.

Judith Love Cohen, mother of actor Jack Black, was a pioneering NASA aerospace engineer who helped design the critical Abort-Guidance System for the Apollo missions. On August 28, 1969, while in labor, she brought a computer printout to the hospital, solved a crucial, complex math problem, and called her boss to report success before giving birth to Jack.

Key Facts about Judith Love Cohen
Apollo 13 Hero: Her work on the Abort-Guidance System allowed the crew to navigate home safely after the mission’s catastrophic accident.
True Dedication: She went to the hospital while in labor with Jack Black, bringing along a computer problem she was working on, and solving it to meet a deadline.
Engineering Career: Cohen worked at TRW and on projects like the Hubble Space Telescope, overcoming immense sexism to be one of the few women in the field.
Background: Born in Brooklyn, she was a math enthusiast from a young age and later wrote books encouraging young girls to enter STEM careers.

Judith Love Cohen was not only a brilliant mathematician and engineer but also a tireless advocate for women in science, passing away in 2016 at age 82.

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Ob, yes she was a fine worker. Not saying anyone shouldn't work.

Judith Love Cohen, mother of actor Jack Black, was a pioneering NASA aerospace engineer who helped design the critical Abort-Guidance System for the Apollo missions. On August 28, 1969, while in labor, she brought a computer printout to the hospital, solved a crucial, complex math problem, and called her boss to report success before giving birth to Jack.


She was a genius in this aspect obviously. But she wasn't a leader. You really don't understand what I am saying so maybe it is best you don't talk to me about this subject or assign your understanding to my understanding and opinion based on life experiences.

You really don't understand what I am saying. Perhaps it is because you aren't religious. That is a big gap to try to broach with a subject like this.

Take care ob.


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I'm quoting you directly. Scroll up.

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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
I'm quoting you directly. Scroll up.


I NEVER said women should do what I approve of. Again, stop putting words in my mouth that I did not say.

I NEVER said women shouldn't be successful in what they choose to do. A lot of them are. Look at Judith Cohen.

I DID say I don't think women belong in leadership. Try to distinguish between success and leadership. They are not the same or linked.


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