Your thoughts on these two traps for fox and coon. I would put wild river pans on the 1.65.

For just fox and coon, id go 450. Already has a wide jaw face and P.I.T. pan from the factory, pretty much pull out of the box and set

Both are excellent for fox and coon,MB will be more $$$ but it's a much better built footholds.Higher theft area 1.65's.

All private property but I am going with the mb I think.

Go with the MB. I am not a fan of putting on a non factory pan on a trap.

I've never used either specifically, but from my experience with the brands, the MB is a much higher quality trap. Another benefit is that the MB's come out of the box ready to go. No pan adjustment needed 98% of the time. And the thicker jaw face provides better holding power, especially with the coon.

MB 450