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6.5 Creedmore #8593868
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Let me start off by saying I know very little about this caliber. Why all the hate? I've seen it described as the man-bun round, the Jeep Wrangler wanna be of rounds, the man purse of shooting and more.
Seems there has been negative hype about this caliber for years now. I know there have been quite a few new rounds produced in the last several years but this seems to take the brunt of all the criticism
on the internet. Your thoughts?


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Re: 6.5 Creedmore [Re: K-zoo] #8593873
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LOL, Nothing wrong with it, especially for long range shooters, it's a 6.5 mm like a few others...just another option, ammo is certainly readily available...

Re: 6.5 Creedmore [Re: K-zoo] #8593874
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Well for starters, it's Creedmoor named for the famous range on Long Island. Secondly, it duplicates ballistics from several 6.5 cartridges from 100 years ago, so is kind of redundant. But it's new and flashy and fits in the popular AR platform so there's that. I don't need it but I don't bad mouth it for those who think they do.


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It’s a new model of 260rem. New cartridges come out all the time. But I think a lot of people get upset with Hornady’s success at tweaking older proven cartridges. Because in a hunting scenario under 400yards the old cartridges have the velocity advantage with lighter bullets. The heavy bullet doesn’t do much for drop and drift till you extend the ranges. But I’d make an argument that with the new chamber designs and tighter tolerances they updated cartidges make for better odds of getting a “shooter” of a rifle right off the shelf. I think the differences of a 260 and a 6.5 are moot for hunting. And now that 6.5creed is a military cartridge it’ll be more like 308. Widely available and economical

Re: 6.5 Creedmore [Re: K-zoo] #8593884
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don't need one, got one anyway. No regrets. 2020 Biden stole the election and right away the gun control talk started. So thought I would buy an AR10, but do not care for a 308, so ordered a custom upper in a creedmoor. Since then I have taken 6 bucks from 300 to 488 yards and a bear at 388. shoots unbelievable for a gas gun.
This fall turkey was shot at 336 yards (note the bullet hole)
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4 shots at 1004 yards
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what other round is easy on barrels, very accurate, capable of taking med. game to 700 yards, butt still capable of extreme long range target shooting without breaking the bank?

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From my perspective, it doesn’t do anything that the 260 Remington didn’t do previously. Me being a short range shooter on big game, I have no need to go buy new rifles in the latest offerings that have shown up in the past 15-20 years.
I think the “hate” directed towards fans of the newer chambering is funny because the younger generations are always going to say that the new way is better than the old Fudd way.

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Originally Posted by mad_mike
From my perspective, it doesn’t do anything that the 260 Remington didn’t do previously. Me being a short range shooter on big game, I have no need to go buy new rifles in the latest offerings that have shown up in the past 15-20 years.
I think the “hate” directed towards fans of the newer chambering is funny because the younger generations are always going to say that the new way is better than the old Fudd way.



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I think a lot of the hate was because of the marketing and over hype.... and of course a lot of the want to be snipers/ gangster hunters that gravitated towards the creedmoor and had to be sure to let you know how cool the they were because they had one.
Once went out west archery hunting with a group of guys . One guy in the group was one of those type of guys. Had the latest and greatest in hunting gear. Before the hunt was over we all knew what every piece of equipment cost including his socks. Heck his shirt cost more than my bow did. Terrible hunter, wouldn't hardly walk more than a quarter mile from the truck. Every buck he saw he said would have been dead if he had his "creed".... missed a buck with his bow at 30 yds and one at a 100yds.

With that said I own 3 creedmoors, one 6.5 and two 6s. Not a big fan of the 6.5 for hunting as its a little on the slow side. Its a target round that u can hunt with. Ballisticly its pretty unimpressive as a hunting cartridge in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by 160user
Originally Posted by mad_mike
From my perspective, it doesn’t do anything that the 260 Remington didn’t do previously. Me being a short range shooter on big game, I have no need to go buy new rifles in the latest offerings that have shown up in the past 15-20 years.
I think the “hate” directed towards fans of the newer chambering is funny because the younger generations are always going to say that the new way is better than the old Fudd way.



I feel the same way about my Tikka Swede.

I bet, but you're and old Fudd. Haha

Re: 6.5 Creedmore [Re: K-zoo] #8593920
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Something something " but ma 6.5 swede" something something "paper punching" something something " but .260 rem" something something man bun .... Same thing as the 6.5 swede but it sucks , even though the 6.5 swede doesn't suck .

Seriously though the marketing hype is the big reason people hate it. Similar to what happened back in the day when .270 win came out and O' Connor wouldn't shut up about it . Elmer Keith even said it was a decent coyote round at best ....or something like that. But he's the same guy wanting something to be able to shoot elks wherever and drop them . There was a guy in Africa too I think who hated it and it was because he shot a warthog in the butt and it don't kill it .

I really dont get the folks who will get all hot and bothered about 6.5 swede or .260 rem say 6.5 creed is the exact same thing....then go on a rant for 20min about how much it sucks....like ....if it's the exact same thing then wouldn't that mean the ones you like suck ????

There also a issue with a lot of FUDD knowledge. I've been in the gun shop with people cussing 6.5 creed and when you ask them way they will tell you stuff like

" It's going so fast the bullets bouncing down the barrel and it deforms the bullet so when it hits the deer it just explode"

" That's round is so deadly you can hit them about anywhere and those new bullets will drop them on the spot !"
Or one of my favorites
"It was a round. Designed to wound ! So you get better meat "

And since it came out the mouth of a old grumpy guy no one questions it and yeah .

Most of the wounding deals I've seen when you actually get down to it is some jack wagon who didn't practice who just shot in the big middle , and those same people usually have a history of doing the same with other calibers . reason most of them like something like a 7mm mag . I'm not joking when I say these are the same type who I'll come to my lil range to sight in and throw a fit when you tell them ,no being able to shoot a shot gun pattern group @100yd isn't good enough just because there all on the piece of copy paper

That or grabbing something that the snipers or whatever use and think there a sniper . ... There gonna do it regardless, if it's not a 6.5 it'll be a .308, if not .308 will be 7mm08 or something...

There's also something to be said , apparently about some of the bullets they load in factory ammo just not being the best for that caliber. Was listening to a guy who big into ballistic talka bout how a lot of the bullets that where great in .30cals just don't work as well in 6.5's. but that's a whole deep rabbit hole .

Everyone I know who really likes them grew up shooting game with smaller calibers , 25-06, 22-250 ,.22mag .243 so they don't have any issues with the creed because....well they know where to actually shoot past behind the shoulder or something . Was able to talk to a swede on time about the whole moose and 6.5 swede thing and he point blank said he feels a lot of it is just the difference in shot placement since a lot of European do high shoulder shots instead of heart and lung...

Idk though I like mine would take it over .308 any day

I shoot pigs not moose or whatever though so idk just some observations

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Re: 6.5 Creedmore [Re: K-zoo] #8593927
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Wolfdog, you would take it over .308, but for what? Are you saying that a moose shot through the heart,lungs isn't going to die? Curious about how much big game you have personally shot and recovered.
As far as the guys that you quote at the gun shop, these are not fudds, they are idiots. I have been at this game for over 50 years and I have never heard any of the nonsense that you quote.


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Hate ? Hate has such a strong connotation .

I don't hate the 6.5 Creedmore. I think it, largely, performs as it's designed.

That said, I think there's some other rifle/calibers that I'll try to obtain before I get a Creed. That can be chopped up to nostalgia, honestly.


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I don't have anything against it. I just like insinuating that Yes Sir is gay because he shoots 'em. smile


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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors

I bet, but you're and old Fudd. Haha


You have a good point but your hat seems to cover it just fine.


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Originally Posted by coonlove
Wolfdog, you would take it over .308, but for what? Are you saying that a moose shot through the heart,lungs isn't going to die? Curious about how much big game you have personally shot and recovered.
As far as the guys that you quote at the gun shop, these are not fudds, they are idiots. I have been at this game for over 50 years and I have never heard any of the nonsense that you quote.


I just like it better , like the recoil better , like the bullet selection, like the speed . I reload but even if I didn't ammo is about the same price. I just like it better it's just that simple really.


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Too much recoil makes me fart in ma swat suit.

This is not new and has nothing to do with ballistics.





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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
Too much recoil makes me fart in ma swat suit.





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Re: 6.5 Creedmore [Re: yotetrapper30] #8593965
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I don't have anything against it. I just like insinuating that Yes Sir is gay because he shoots 'em. smile

I shot a 6.5 and im not afraid to admit it anymore.... just at the hone range were none of my hunting buddies see it though. grin

Advantages to the 6.5 creedmoor are, good barrel life, very available ammo and components, modern case design that makes it fairly efficient and a bit easier to get accuracy and designed for higher bc bullets. Its lack of velocity is its negative in my opinion. Its designed for long range target shooting and that is were it might have some advantages. Kind of reminds me of the modern day 308, can get the job done hunting but sure doesn't have much for ballistical advantages.

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One thing about a lot of the older "fudd" cartridges they did bring alot of ballictical advantages to the table when the did come out

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