I know you guys think a lot about Trump, but I doubt that he was personally doing the efficacy and safety testing of these vaccines.

He may have feelings of being forced as many did but they made a choice becuse they thought the loss to them exceeded the risk. Its bs but it was not forced. Two bad choices for sure. But there was a choice.

Personal example. I told my wife if work told me I need to take the shot or get fired I would make them fire me. They never did require it so that never happened but I made the choice my health and values are more important than the job. Even though its the best job I have and will ever have.

I trust that my doctor knows more about medicine than I do. I take my guidance from him rather than Fox news, Trapperman, RFK, or the likes. He may not be perfect, but I am doing just fine after the vaccines. He does not push his opinion on me.

Trump and I both got the Covid vaccine. I am doing fine. He is a little unstable at times, so maybe there is something to be concerned about.

Operation Warp Speed was never set up to be mandatory. That came later.

Did you read the article?

What was interesting is you didn't have to be too medically inclined to see the dangers if you were willing to think for yourself. And time and evidence coming out has proven that. Lot of push to get people to stop doing that. Just trust us and dont question anything. That for me is the big issue that came out of this.

Cliffsnotes: .Gov had data showing adverse reactions with the mRNA vaccines but suppressed that information from public view.
I'm old enough to remember .gov saying it was safe and effective.

You're lucky. Many people suffered ill effects. It was proven too.

The sad part is that the effects of those that were vaxed or forced due to work requirements, may yet develop complications of the vaccine in the future. I have have had several conversations with physician friends about this since this all began.

They both agreed with my concerns and thoughts of my suspicions regarding the Covid vaccine. Both declined to take the vax and did not force their nurses and staff to take the vax. It was a voluntary decision.

They took some heat with their decisions at the time but they turned out to be very accurate with their assessments of the drug.

Since that time they both have lost patients to suspected Vax complications and some patients still fighting suspected continuing affects.

This will give you an idea of what the Jab did for the US. www.openvaers.com

I don’t like many politicians. Trump and Mike Lee are the exceptions, but I’m not a cheerleader for either and don’t worship either of them, they are politicians. 15 days to slow the virus down was a huge mistake then and we knew it. Warp speed was and is a disaster. That being said I think Trump was being fed a ton of bs just like the we all were.

Accountability starts at the top.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...ump-operation-warp-speed-vaccine-summit/

Might as well toss the flu shot into this discussion. Guess I have taken twenty. Had the flu once.

Once again an article on .gov's[/b] suppression of critical information[b], under another administration at that, some how becomes the present administration's fault. SMH

The disciples don't like talking about Operation Warp Speed.

I’m sure some don’t, but the other side pretended to have a mentality functioning President from 2020-2024 just saying

What a tool.

Given a choice, I followed the advice of my doc at the time, and got vaccinated. My wife followed the advice of her doc at Mayo Clinic. Both of us were in our early 70s and, as such, we were at great risk of getting Covid-19. We got the shots, followed by the boosters, and beat Covid until January of this year.

We followed what we thought then, and still think now, was/is good strong medical advice. None of these docs suggested injecting bleach, or taking ivermectin, or something else that was not approved for human use. If this makes me crazy, well, think what you will. We’re alive. As opposed to the thousands who died in this country who decided NOT to be vaccinated.