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Re: M44's [Re: alaska viking] #8610394
05/10/26 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
I first heard about these things back in the 1970s and thought of how in-discriminate they must be.


Quite the opposite actually.

Re: M44's [Re: alaska viking] #8610458
05/10/26 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by alaska viking
It is a terrible idea. I first heard about these things back in the 1970s and thought of how in-discriminate they must be. And I still think that. Many non-target animals that we, as trappers, try to avoid were, and would be, killed un-intentionally. I know that myself, as well as pretty much every trapper I know go out of our way to be discriminant with our sets, even refusing sets that just might catch un-intended critters.
The M-44 is obviously a lethal "set" and can be "set off" by many different animals, including raptors, any canine, cats, humans, etc. And the idea that this would be ok on public land is idiocy.



It’s the most selective tool I use outside of a rifle, killed several thousand coyotes with them and only 1 coon and 1
Skunk. Heck I’ve killed more non targets with my truck driving to check equipment most weeks then I have in 28 years of running M-44s.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8610501
05/10/26 07:47 PM
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yes very effictive tool but needs to be set accordingly to be selective. back when i worked usda-adc here in idaho i had one certain spot on private land for smaller flock of sheep. after looking over the area i choose not to use legholds or m-44s...set snares and calling instead. this property was to close to to house of another neighbor land...long story short a few years ago another adc trapper set m44 on the property line between the 2 places and ended up killing a black lab and putting a young boy in the hospital. the general public dont decipher between the tools used for trapping they just know it was a trapper that done it. gives all trappers a black eye. we have alot of hounds hunters here and hounds have been killed aciedently staying on to private land. so i dont think m44s have anyplace or need to be set on public land...the best tool for taking alot coyotes is by flying it. as m44s will kill alot of non target fox and a few bobcats.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8611438
05/12/26 07:16 PM
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Bob, Idaho still is not using them because of the one incident in Eastern Idaho. Wasn't sure of legality just know that supervisor of Wildlife Services here in Idaho is not allowing his guys to use them.


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Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8611460
05/12/26 08:24 PM
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Like any of the tools used, some times you have to use a little common sense on where you set them, private or public land. Should you be able to use any lethal on public ground? To me a body grip is no different in the end results. Just because it is legal doesn't mean it is a good idea, no matter what you are setting or using. Most problems come from people not using their head and thinking about what can happen.


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Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8611591
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Good points Mark. Common sense prevails.
Off topic a bit but it relates to the post. Here in Illinois, we can't use snares on dry land....just half in half out of the water. I can't tell you how many times I've been limited by that rule while trying to remove problem beaver.
Let trappers get the job with ALL of the tools available!

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8611704
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Like I said before, the lack of education shines in comments on here from "trappers".


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Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8611706
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I agree with Scott. Too many comments on this thread sound like anti-trapper comments about traps.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8611733
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Its just good news to here the government giving back freedoms instead of taking them away

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Re: M44's [Re: ScottPhillips] #8611750
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Originally Posted by ScottPhillips
Like I said before, the lack of education shines in comments on here from "trappers".
....are you in favor of m-44s on public land?

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8611855
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Too many bird hunters on public land for this to be a good idea. On the other hand, bird hunters hate foot traps and snares too.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8612014
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Yes, with common sense and proper signage they can be used.


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