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Re: Data Centers [Re: Gary Benson] #8615277
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
If people want cellphones and internet to work they have to let it happen.

Why? Are cell phone towers not going to work?


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Data Centers [Re: white17] #8615319
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
If people want cellphones and internet to work they have to let it happen.

Why? Are cell phone towers not going to work?


Are you being serious?

Originally Posted by spjones
Would you rather the data centers be in China?

BTW the almond industry is far worse than data centers as far as water usage


Originally Posted by white17
I don't think that is the question.

This is going to happen whether we like it or not.
The question is....or should be IMO........

Do we want MSFT, GOOG, SPCX, META, AMZN. NVDA, PLTR, ANTHO.........etc to be the ones that build and operate it or do we want BIDU, Huawei, Deep Seek......etc to do it ?


Exactly, whether we like it or not the world is going to AI and become even more automated. It's already here in many facets. Personally I wish we would all goo back to dial up internet and no smart phones. I don't think I'll like what is coming. Just like the trans continental railway, there isn't any stopping the AI train. If we don't do it our adversaries will. My belief is a lot of this anti propaganda is funded by china.

It will require more data centers.


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Re: Data Centers [Re: yotetrapper30] #8615342
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Lugnut


Interesting article, thanks yote. Their begging for money due to a seemingly severe case of TDS was off-putting, but the article was informative and interesting nonetheless. One bit of information not present was whether or not transmission lines were built into the Colossus sites so excess energy could be sold back to the local utility.


Yeah, about impossible to find unbiased news sources these days. This article has some bias as well but a bit more info about it. https://i10x.ai/news/xai-colossus-2-supercomputer-private-power-island?utm_source=copilot.com Colossus 2 is only about an hour north of me. As far as I can tell, Musk is not selling any energy back to the utilities. I think at this point they are still consuming more than they produce.


Another interesting article. This one makes it sound like Musk’s xAI is the first to build their own generation stations.

"Elon Musk’s xAI is constructing a first-of-its-kind AI campus, strategically split across two states. A new power generation facility in Southaven, Mississippi, will exclusively energize the massive "Colossus 2" supercomputer in Memphis, Tennessee, creating a vertically integrated system designed to house up to one million GPUs and operate at gigawatt scale..."

Perhaps they referring to the size and power of the generation stations.


Eh...wot?

Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615345
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The plant to generate electricity for the data thing 6 miles north of me is going to produce 350 megawatts and is fueled by two 16 inch natural gas lines.
16 inch lines are huge.
The company building the data center is fully funding the power plant. The plant is called a “behind the meter” plant. That means they will use all of the power generated and no power will be put into public power grid.

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Outlaw 99. Hang tough. It sucks to live on a place all your life and somebody decide "for the better good" we need your land. Had a main transmission line run across my homeplace taxes paid since the 1780s....private land so to speak. The county even thought it was a good place to connect a mountains to sea trail but luckily chose another route. We are in the fastest growing county in nc and all the big wheels think everything is for sale. Ive told more than one not even a shovelfull, path goes out the same way you came in. A lot of folks dont get it

Re: Data Centers [Re: Joco1995] #8615363
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Originally Posted by Joco1995
Outlaw 99. Hang tough. It sucks to live on a place all your life and somebody decide "for the better good" we need your land. Had a main transmission line run across my homeplace taxes paid since the 1780s....private land so to speak. The county even thought it was a good place to connect a mountains to sea trail but luckily chose another route. We are in the fastest growing county in nc and all the big wheels think everything is for sale. Ive told more than one not even a shovelfull, path goes out the same way you came in. A lot of folks dont get it


Exactly, you get it!


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615364
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…. Are data centers the reason why Trump said he was stapling green cards to Indian and Chinese diplomas or something like that ?


Insert profound nonsense here
Re: Data Centers [Re: Lugnut] #8615365
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Originally Posted by Lugnut

Another interesting article. This one makes it sound like Musk’s xAI is the first to build their own generation stations.

"Elon Musk’s xAI is constructing a first-of-its-kind AI campus, strategically split across two states. A new power generation facility in Southaven, Mississippi, will exclusively energize the massive "Colossus 2" supercomputer in Memphis, Tennessee, creating a vertically integrated system designed to house up to one million GPUs and operate at gigawatt scale..."

Perhaps they referring to the size and power of the generation stations.




From this article about Colossus 2, dated 7 months ago, there is mention of other AI companies building their own generation plants. And, in AI speed, 7 months equals about "several" years, lol. A lot can happen in "several" months.

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The hyperscalers are no longer just running data centers, they’re building power plants to fuel AI faster and cheaper.



https://anastasiintech.substack.com/p/new-colossus-2-the-worlds-largest


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Re: Data Centers [Re: ol' dad] #8615443
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I am for data centers as long as they result in raising the global temperature just high enough to combat the coming of the next ice age.

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