No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum ~ Live Chat

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
What’s the deal with Prism Scopes #8620137
Yesterday at 08:23 PM
Yesterday at 08:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2014
McCurtain Co. Oklahoma
O
OKforester Offline OP
trapper
OKforester  Offline OP
trapper
O

Joined: Aug 2014
McCurtain Co. Oklahoma
I am looking for a new scope to put on my AR 6.5 Grendel and the prism scopes look like they would be perfect…just about. Most prism scopes come in 1x, 3x, or 5x and as the majority of my shots will be 100 yards or less at hogs and various other critters, the 3x will be just right. My only issue is the reticles on these scopes. They have very busy sight pictures. Most have ballistic reticles that have aim points out to 600 yards, plus windage aim points. Who is using low fixed power scopes to shoot 600 yards? And what is with the illuminated horseshoe or semi circle? What function does that play? Does anyone have one of these they use for hunting or know of a one that has a cleaner sight picture?

Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: OKforester] #8620168
Yesterday at 08:46 PM
Yesterday at 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Offline
trapper
waggler  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Alaska and Washington State
Aim points out to 600 yards on a 3x scope?
I'd be looking for a different brand of scope.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: OKforester] #8620173
Yesterday at 08:57 PM
Yesterday at 08:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Barbour county,WV
O
Oleo Acres Offline
trapper
Oleo Acres  Offline
trapper
O

Joined: Mar 2012
Barbour county,WV
I use a Vortex spitfire on a 9mm carbine. It has a dot , with 2 circles around it . Lighted it has red or green reticle , or you can leave it turned off and the reticle is etched in the glass . Works very well for me .


Otters everywhere ya look
Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: Oleo Acres] #8620223
Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2014
McCurtain Co. Oklahoma
O
OKforester Offline OP
trapper
OKforester  Offline OP
trapper
O

Joined: Aug 2014
McCurtain Co. Oklahoma
[quote=Oleo Acres] I use a Vortex spitfire on a 9mm carbine. It has a dot , with 2 circles around it . Lighted it has red or green reticle , or you can leave it turned off and the reticle is etched in the glass . Works very well for me .[/quote

Is there a practical purpose for the two circles?

Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: OKforester] #8620232
Yesterday at 11:22 PM
Yesterday at 11:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
The thought behind the reticle is for primary Close Quarter Battle use with the secondary ability the to reach out for the long shot.

The horse shoe acts as a big red dot plaster and blast, some reticles have the horse shoe sized for leading a running target, use the edge. Then the center vertical will have your bdc and some have ranging as well. Most all will be specced for M855 5.56 green tip ball trajectory but other cartridges may be close enough for government work.

I know the Primary Arms ACSS reticles have ranging hashmarks based on subtension of standard 18" width or standard 5'8" height of human combatants. For critters do some math and see what fits.


[Linked Image]
Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: warrior] #8620236
Yesterday at 11:45 PM
Yesterday at 11:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2014
McCurtain Co. Oklahoma
O
OKforester Offline OP
trapper
OKforester  Offline OP
trapper
O

Joined: Aug 2014
McCurtain Co. Oklahoma
Originally Posted by warrior
The thought behind the reticle is for primary Close Quarter Battle use with the secondary ability the to reach out for the long shot.

The horse shoe acts as a big red dot plaster and blast, some reticles have the horse shoe sized for leading a running target, use the edge. Then the center vertical will have your bdc and some have ranging as well. Most all will be specced for M855 5.56 green tip ball trajectory but other cartridges may be close enough for government work.

I know the Primary Arms ACSS reticles have ranging hashmarks based on subtension of standard 18" width or standard 5'8" height of human combatants. For critters do some math and see what fits.


So does any company make a hunting reticle? I (and most people in the market for one of these) are not going to be shooting a 5’8” human combatant. I’m shooting a hog at 70 yards. I need one aiming point to minimize confusion.

Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: OKforester] #8620249
14 hours ago
14 hours ago
Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
Originally Posted by OKforester
Originally Posted by warrior
The thought behind the reticle is for primary Close Quarter Battle use with the secondary ability the to reach out for the long shot.

The horse shoe acts as a big red dot plaster and blast, some reticles have the horse shoe sized for leading a running target, use the edge. Then the center vertical will have your bdc and some have ranging as well. Most all will be specced for M855 5.56 green tip ball trajectory but other cartridges may be close enough for government work.

I know the Primary Arms ACSS reticles have ranging hashmarks based on subtension of standard 18" width or standard 5'8" height of human combatants. For critters do some math and see what fits.


So does any company make a hunting reticle? I (and most people in the market for one of these) are not going to be shooting a 5’8” human combatant. I’m shooting a hog at 70 yards. I need one aiming point to minimize confusion.


Not sure but on prisms but I know there are basic red dots that are dot only.


[Linked Image]
Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: OKforester] #8620250
14 hours ago
14 hours ago
Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
The ACOG, pricey, is rather simple.

[Linked Image]

The Primary Arms Cyclops 1x has great reviews as the best budget prism and is basically a red dot at 1x. They say it was designed to be able to be paired up with a flip to the side magnifier to use the ranging bit though some say it kind fidgety getting two scopes into perfect coaligned focus.

https://blog.primaryarms.com/guide/...x-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle/


[Linked Image]
Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: OKforester] #8620264
10 hours ago
10 hours ago
Joined: Mar 2012
Barbour county,WV
O
Oleo Acres Offline
trapper
Oleo Acres  Offline
trapper
O

Joined: Mar 2012
Barbour county,WV
Dot does fine aiming, circles m well , for fast shooting i can just put the circles around a man size target at 50 yards and dump a mag in center as fast as I can pull the trigger . Mine is a 1x , the 3x has a little different reticle , but not nearly as cluttered up as many of them .


Otters everywhere ya look
Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: OKforester] #8620336
6 hours ago
6 hours ago
Joined: Dec 2012
PA
T
Tye dye trapper Offline
trapper
Tye dye trapper  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2012
PA
Acog is battle tested but very pricey, I currently have a primary arms which works great for about a quarter of the price of the Trijicon Acog. I love prism sights, because I used them I the military. It’s what I am used too. Prism sights are good if you have an astigmatism too.

Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: Tye dye trapper] #8620376
4 hours ago
4 hours ago
Joined: Jun 2015
rogers city mi.
J
jeff karsten Offline
trapper
jeff karsten  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Jun 2015
rogers city mi.
Originally Posted by Tye dye trapper
Acog is battle tested but very pricey, I currently have a primary arms which works great for about a quarter of the price of the Trijicon Acog. I love prism sights, because I used them I the military. It’s what I am used too. Prism sights are good if you have an astigmatism too.

Thank You


olden tyred
Re: What’s the deal with Prism Scopes [Re: OKforester] #8620397
3 hours ago
3 hours ago
Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
To me astigmatism is the big deal in favor of prisms. I have pretty bad astigmatism and dots aren't clear for me. I see a fuzzy dot. Anything other than a large dot is pretty much useless to me, no use having horseshoes multiple dots, etc. Best I can do is center the blur and bang.


[Linked Image]
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread