I am looking for a new scope to put on my AR 6.5 Grendel and the prism scopes look like they would be perfect…just about. Most prism scopes come in 1x, 3x, or 5x and as the majority of my shots will be 100 yards or less at hogs and various other critters, the 3x will be just right. My only issue is the reticles on these scopes. They have very busy sight pictures. Most have ballistic reticles that have aim points out to 600 yards, plus windage aim points. Who is using low fixed power scopes to shoot 600 yards? And what is with the illuminated horseshoe or semi circle? What function does that play? Does anyone have one of these they use for hunting or know of a one that has a cleaner sight picture?

Aim points out to 600 yards on a 3x scope?
I'd be looking for a different brand of scope.

I use a Vortex spitfire on a 9mm carbine. It has a dot , with 2 circles around it . Lighted it has red or green reticle , or you can leave it turned off and the reticle is etched in the glass . Works very well for me .

[quote=Oleo Acres] I use a Vortex spitfire on a 9mm carbine. It has a dot , with 2 circles around it . Lighted it has red or green reticle , or you can leave it turned off and the reticle is etched in the glass . Works very well for me .[/quote

Is there a practical purpose for the two circles?

The thought behind the reticle is for primary Close Quarter Battle use with the secondary ability the to reach out for the long shot.

The horse shoe acts as a big red dot plaster and blast, some reticles have the horse shoe sized for leading a running target, use the edge. Then the center vertical will have your bdc and some have ranging as well. Most all will be specced for M855 5.56 green tip ball trajectory but other cartridges may be close enough for government work.

I know the Primary Arms ACSS reticles have ranging hashmarks based on subtension of standard 18" width or standard 5'8" height of human combatants. For critters do some math and see what fits.

So does any company make a hunting reticle? I (and most people in the market for one of these) are not going to be shooting a 5’8” human combatant. I’m shooting a hog at 70 yards. I need one aiming point to minimize confusion.

Not sure but on prisms but I know there are basic red dots that are dot only.

The ACOG, pricey, is rather simple.



The Primary Arms Cyclops 1x has great reviews as the best budget prism and is basically a red dot at 1x. They say it was designed to be able to be paired up with a flip to the side magnifier to use the ranging bit though some say it kind fidgety getting two scopes into perfect coaligned focus.

https://blog.primaryarms.com/guide/...x-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle/

Dot does fine aiming, circles m well , for fast shooting i can just put the circles around a man size target at 50 yards and dump a mag in center as fast as I can pull the trigger . Mine is a 1x , the 3x has a little different reticle , but not nearly as cluttered up as many of them .

Acog is battle tested but very pricey, I currently have a primary arms which works great for about a quarter of the price of the Trijicon Acog. I love prism sights, because I used them I the military. It’s what I am used too. Prism sights are good if you have an astigmatism too.

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To me astigmatism is the big deal in favor of prisms. I have pretty bad astigmatism and dots aren't clear for me. I see a fuzzy dot. Anything other than a large dot is pretty much useless to me, no use having horseshoes multiple dots, etc. Best I can do is center the blur and bang.

Do you shoot prism scopes with both eyes open?

Prisms at just ment to be compact fixed low mag optics . Usually have a etched reticle with an option for illumination but if your batter goes out your optic isn't dead like a red dot .

These a few dozed people making them and most are marketed as " combat optics" so they have all the fancy bdc reticles. And they just vary . Know primary arms had there horseshoes set up so you could range man soed target with them or something....but in short just worry about the middle point for aiming

Monstrum has some less busy options for like $100 . Dorn have any of there prisms but close to 1 dozen of there other optics only had issues with two once being a micro red dot the other a very early version of on of there LPVO's when they first came out

You can don't have to just depends what you want to do

I’m really liking the looks of some of the micro prisms if I can just find a reticle I think I can live with.

The idea of using a low or no power optic is both eyes open and the brain naturally puts the picture together. There was one back in the eighties that you couldn't see through at all it just had a dot. You had to shoot both eyes open with that one. But if you're like me closing the off side eye is ingrained and almost impossible to break from doing.

Yeah your right about not being able to break the habit of closing the off eye. I have a reflex sight on my Turkey shotgun and every time I pull the trigger on a gobbler I try to shoot with both eyes open but I always close my left eye right before the trigger squeeze.

I like my acog its a ta31. The point of the cheveron is 100 yards top of line below it is 300. The botom of the v distsnce at 300 yards is 19 inches basicly ridth of a mans sholders. The marks for 400 500 and 600 narroe and also equal 19" for rang finding.

Mine has fiber optics to light it up like a red dot but un like a red dot you dont need to adjust brightness. When its bright the fiber optic is brighter keeping it from wadhing out and when its shady ir geting dark its dim and not so bright yiu cant see the target

Mune is old enou ut still has the bible vers refrence on it and the Tritium no longer glows in the dark. Mine had bothe the fiber and Tritium for day and niggt ahooting.

Look at the Paragon. Very simple reticle. I have used one for a couple years on a .22 mag so I cant vouch for using it on a centerfire. The Paragon - as do several of these sights - allows for a small reflex sight to be mounted on the prism sight. This gives you the ability to sight in at extended distance with the prism sight and sight in at 15 ft with the reflex sight for shooting critters up close - as in a trap.