In the not so distant future, the world is going to get tired of Iranian misses, drones, and gunboats. Do they not realize that the free world can blow them right off the map.

Stop watching the news man.

Thinking?

Well, I guess they figure to wait out Trump and get them a dummiecrat in office to pay them off to stop all that nonsense. They ain't nothing but thugs and it was the dummiecrat Carter that created them.

Ask yourself a question. If it was so simple to take them out why has it not been done allreeady in over 100 days and billions of US dollars spent? I bet you thought the same way about Afghanistan.

Gotta be fake news.They were obliterated several months ago,lol.

… intelligence out of isreal said that regime change could be achieved with a short massive strike and killing Iranian leaders … the people would rise up and put in a sympathetic regime

…. That was false as usual

… now there’s no plan b

Why do people swallow all the BS,must be braindead to believe conmen.

Difficult to guess with out having all the info like they do

However I don't ever see the regular people of Iran rising up to do anything without help, the left over military and Guards
are to death serving to have to go up against with out educated military help !

Plus all the lieing and put offs Iran is capable of doing makes things that much more difficult to handle !

NO one really knows anything more about them after all of the destruction already done, yet they seem to continue
to cause grief every day to some country !!

this post is not to bash the US military but this is another war that they will eventually lose again, Iran will just wait out Trump and the US forces in the region unless they put boots on the ground and than ww3 will basically start because all the USA allies in the region don't like Israel and honestly don't like the USA but love them as trading partners so they tolerate bases in their countries and the public back in the states wont put up with another long war or causalities to please a president

What does intelligence out of trapperman say?

I don't know you still Have a king and a queen... and your actual country's kook leader could be either or or both

I would be easy if they actually wanted to do it. It hasn't been done because to do it correctly would mean a scorched earth policy. Nobody has the balls for that.

Absolutely the correct and only correct answer

This.
Trump and his pride got him suckered into this situation.
Don't get me wrong, I'd still vote for him again, over Harris, but his foreign policy really sucks this term. Can't figure out who got to him.

I am absolutely 1000% glad he's taking on. Iran and I'm very, very surprised that the Middle East nations for the most part have backed down. And just let him do with Israel to Iran. What needs to be done.

I also believe a hundred percent in what trapdog1 said

Iran knows that anti-Semitism is "in style" in the U.S., with both the left and right, so it will be easy to hold out until midterms. They figure the Orange Man will be tied up with impeachment proceedings and settle for whatever.

If there is a bad hit on one of our bases or ships you will see the scorched earth policy.

The lesson from the Iran war should be NEVER lose the Second Amendment. The Iranian people are disarmed so they have no chance to overthrow their tyrants.

Putin has his hands full with Ukraine. Now might be the time. Then there is China. They very much need the oil, as do India, Pakistan, and North Korea (all with nuclear weapons).

It is a fragile situation for sure.

Something about an Israel ran child sex ring and some list of names. I didnt think anything of it at all at first then I saw the being Israel's lap dog. Its not just I
In Iran but other legislation moving currently.

and a lot of those who WOULD HAVE risen up were killed by their own government.

what's Iran thinking?? They are betting that history repeats itself and there's a big payoff once again. Why do we assume they think something else? They arent exactly holding a bad hand in this game. The use of relatively inexpensive drone technology seems to be forever changing the terrorist strategy. The only thing they are likely worried about is Xi making a deal with Trump that takes some type of control of their country and their oil

NO ONE rises up anymore! With technology that is afforded to people (even poor people globally have technology) they don't care about rising up, it's about living to the next day as easily as "I" can!

…. ^^^^^ that individualism is an issue lol

this war will end when ISRAEL SAYS SO.

Shut up Savell, LOL.

Ya, it could be anybody...who knows...

… was hoping you read that lol

I'm not tired of Iranian misses. Some of them Persian gals are dang good looking.

… probably the Pentecostal’s or something

…. Dude just run off with a Somali girl or something already … my goodness lol

Im still on the side that believes we absolutely couldn't let Iran obtain nuclear weapons. And I believe every President we've had has had that stance. I truly believe that was the motivation in our actions. My believe is with what little intelligence i have heard is our backs were up against a wall on that happening. It was now or never. Now we absolutely cant allow them nuclear weapons. Alot of propaganda out there to direct people's thinking away from the main trigger, nuclear weapons. I believe so far we have only struck military property and infrastructure. Its obliviously not enough to cause a surrender or make them agree to acceptable terms. I also believe enough of their military power is hidden and buried deep enough in the mountains we cant reach it all in the methods we are using and thus they dont feel defeated yet.

I beg your pardon!
Persian gals I said…. Pay attention!

… your obsessed with AI Persian girls now?

… thought Colombians satisfied your exotic lusts

.. I can’t keep up with you lol

I thought the U. S. was going to stop policing us?

You got me there Compadre.

Naw, once you get elected you don't have to actually follow through on your promises.

…Iran gave North Korea their nukes as prophesied in genesis … in order for Mark Levin to become a majority shareholder in Fox News

.. it’s something like that I think?

Who got to him?

200 million dollar campaign contribution buys some influence

^^^^
China will be able to get all the energy they need from Russia. Unfortunately Biden drove the two Countries into each other's arms by mishandling the whole Ukraine thing, sounded like Trump had the right idea about how to handle it.....until after he got elected. Big mess now.
Iran just made the problem even bigger.

Hope that wasn't from someone with dual citizenship who will not say they love America more than any other country.

Your mudding up the waters of my thoughts there which isnt hard to do sometimes

… it happens brother lol

Id be intresting in hearing from the ones that are against the war if they are ok with Iran having nuclear weapons? Just out of curiosity not to intrested in discussing whether they were actually one step away from having them or not. Thats another whole discussion.

Iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons. Frankly there are enough countries that have them

^^^^^
In general I'm against the war, I'm pretty sure it's about banking and other deep state stuff, it's not about us having superior moral principles that's for sure.

Let's see, North Korea and Pakistan (a muslim country) have nukes, and they're whackadoddle countries. If Iran doesn't already have a nuke I'm pretty sure they could get one.

… that’s easy … no Middle East religious zealots should have nuclear weapons

.. and none of our blood and treasure should be wasted on on them

… what’s the next question?

… I hope Mariam adleson doesn’t read this

… prayers sent if she does

… going to take more than a sausage and cheese basket… that’s for certain

.. be careful partner… you’re liable to get the randy weaver treatment or something lol

Two ways to beat the fanatics that love death more than life.
Troops on the ground-fighting to the last man with millions dead.
Or Nuclear devastation.
This is the dilemma Truman faced with Japan at the end of WW2.
Iran If it gets a nuke will launch the first on at their little satan and the second at their big satan.
I bet that crazy netanyahoo will launch a nuke at iran.

So Iran says they have a nuke and are going to detonate it in a remote part of their own Country as a demonstration.
I have my doubts, however, if they do this, it will really throw a monkey wrench into things.

Wouldnt surprize me if Putin gave them a few by now.

I do believe if Iran got a nuclear weapon they would use it. Where North Korea and Pakistan are using their possession of them as a shield for their sovereignty.

If he did it would be a tremendous tool to leverage their position

… and Iran isn’t doing the same thing?

… we and Britain put isreal there around WWII after the Bolsheviks tried to take over western civilization (and succeeded to some extent)

…. And we continue to finance their existence with our tax dollars and military

.. them sand monkeys just think they have less to lose I guess

…. But it’s the same thing as far sovereignty goes

… I don’t give a crap about sand people

.. just believe the conquests of my own ancestors should be preserved… and even expanded lol

… we need to take our own side is all I’m saying

For most of the USA's existence we were isolationist, and it served us very well. The Rothchilds and Woodrow Wilson drug the US into WWI and started us down the track of US hegemony, the great depression messed up their plan, and we went back into isolationism.

After WWII we decided that the Soviet Union was now a good boggeyman to justify US hegemony. Trump made a pretty good attempt to steer us away from going that direction, but then he either got distracted, or more likely was taken to the woodshed and was given a good talking to.

We would be so much better off if we would just cut all ties to the globalists, however there are too many people on both sides of the political isle that support globalism. I think it very unlikely that much will change....until things domestically get a whole lot worse.

^^^^ based lol

… Not sure why we do all this typing just for it to deleted lol

^^^^^
That's just an objective, 100 years of US history condensed into three short paragraphs.
Nothing for anyone to get their panties in a bunch about unless they don't like history.

Its all about money (petrodollar) but not to worry the whole stinking house of cards is ready to implode.

….. well … history get’s deleted if it doesn’t fit the narrative these days

… just what I’ve seen lately lol

Every once and a while I do agree with you on something -off the topic of trapping- this may be one of them.

… more to it than the petrodollar .. go frost scrape a walrus scrote or something lol

Go kick a mexican off your property you bumboclot.

… that wasn’t very nice

… in fact you hurt my feelings

… and what on earth is a “bumboclot” ?

LMAO!!!

"Bumboclot" is a highly offensive Jamaican slang term used to express anger, frustration, shock, or strong emotion, originating from a literal reference to a sanitary cloth."

…. Well that sounds about par for the course lol

LMAO @ So many that think they know everything.

Number one reason that we don't finish off Iran, is all the innocent people that live there.
Bad enough that they're killed every day, with public hangings and such.
Would you any of you willingly kill millions of innocent people just to get rid of a couple thousand truants?
Think about it, we're the most powerful country on earth.
But why kill innocent people to a point of everyone should be living free?


This thread is dead on the water.

… thank goodness you showed up

…. You just solved the world’s problems with a couple keyboard strokes

…. How do you intend to display your Nobel peace prize?

Sadly, it was indeed false. The people of Iran, who begged for help, didn't step up as they promised. Now it is time to make such a terrible example of Iran that no one crosses the US for a generation. We should do a non nuclear electromagnetic pulse and fry all the electronics in the country and bomb into the ground everything of value. Then we should prohibit all trade with Iran, so they can't rebuild and will have to live like our ancestors did hundreds of years ago.

Keith

… I don’t disagree with that … and then Israel next

…. Let’s take our own side for a change lol

I'm not going to play your silly games.

You just don't realize that the civil war is over.
Doesn't mater what side you're on, we all have to defend our country.
Play your games, but the facts are there.
Would you kill millions of innocent people just to be the winner of a stupid thing like Islam?
No one with a brain wants Islam here.
Or to spread anymore than it has already.
Your state has 40 or so don't go zones now.
And you seem to be OK with that?

Point made, but remember the people of Iran have no weapons period.

Same as what certain people want here, as it was done in the UK, Europe, and Australia.

… I don’t like Islam sand monkey people

… I just don’t get your arguments

…. We shouldn’t be involved in any of that Middle East stuff… instead focused on fixing our own problems

… Im sure you disagree with that … but carry on I guess

Tuck your tail and run!

OW….I Luv you brother.. just think you’re hyper focused on a symptom of a bigger problem

…. Anyway I ain’t running… but I’ll say you win if that brings you peace or what have you

Seems many don't realize just what's happening.
It's not about just one problem, it's about many problems that needs attention.
One is why does our country give billions of dollars to 177 countries every year?
Why do we have military bases world wide, and those countries refuse us from using them, or their air space?
Example Spain, which was ( and may still be ) ruled by Islam for years.
Will not let us use their air space, yet still want our protection.

My thinking is if they get a nuclear weapon its a real possibility that millions of civilians could die. Though I doubt all are innocent.

^^^^ too much gray area in that statement lol

I will say most of us wish we would be more USA first but with world politics and finance as it is im not sure if thats possible at this time to the extent of what most want. Working that direction would definitely be desirable but we've spend 90 years moving away from that and it cant turn around over night

You have some pull on here, can't refute that.
I really respect you, and am glad you're here.
But you play games that mean more than you realize .
It's very hard to understand the world politics anymore, because of globalism fanatics, and their BS.
But it effects every aspect of our lives.

… I’m with you … let’s conquer the dune cunes and take their resources…. Then subjugate them

… that’d be fun

Those are probably NATO bases, They are meant for defense, not U.S.offensive operations .

…. Nobody listens to me ..,.. I’m an idiot

…. This a trapping forum where we cut up about politics every now and then

… just good clean fun

… don’t put that evil on me lol

Then maybe you have an idea why Trump wants Greenland.

^^^^^^^ In a way that 's funny, so we have to wait to be attacked before we can become offensive ?

OK Sorry, got out of line, just not everything is a joke .

… I could recommend a book

…. Calm down brother…. We’re just screwed at this point

… I cope by watching reruns of the Andy Griffith show

I didn't know you read.

He reads Dr SUSE (SP) BOOKS.

When I was part of NATO we trained to defend against an invasion. Never planned or trained to invade anybody. NATO is a defence alliance.

I watch that too, got tired of paying for informercials and high prices for movies and sports.
Antenna tv now, same crap, just more money in my pocket. It's free after installation .
Can even watch soaps, if you want!
DD might be interested in that.

As long as we paid for it. Another free ride by NATO countries.
How much do they pay into the costs of operations?

In gulf War I a bunch of the middle east Islamic countries paid the U.S. to attack Iraq and throw them out of Kuwait. I wonder how much Israel is paying the U.S. to attack Iran. Probably won't be getting any shekels soon.

"GAO discussed the status of allied contributions to support Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm and the use of such contributions to defray U.S. costs. GAO noted that: (1) the European Commission (EC) and 49 countries contributed support for the Persian Gulf crisis; (2) during the Persian Gulf crisis, 36 countries sent ground, air, or naval forces or support units to the region; (3) allies pledged about $54 billion and contributed about $44.5 billion, including $39.1 billion in cash and $5.4 billion in in-kind support; (4) as of July 31, 1991, the Department of Defense (DOD) had received an additional $1.6 billion in cash and contributions totalling about $46.1 billion; (5) Japanese and Korean pledges to support the operations were reduced due to a misunderstanding between governments; (6) of the $7.9 billion in future receipts, DOD expects to receive about $7.7 billion in cash, including $4.1 billion from Saudi Arabia, $3.5 billion from Kuwait, and up to $129 million from Japan; (7) in addition to cash and in-kind support to the United States, EC and 24 countries pledged about $16.1 billion in economic assistance to Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, and other countries affected by the economic embargo against Iraq; and (8) allied contributions will be used to defray U.S. costs of maintaining military forces in the Persian Gulf, related costs, and incremental costs. GAO believes that: (1) allied cash contributions should be sufficient to finance U.S. funding requirements to pay for the incremental costs of the war; and (2) U.S. taxpayers' funds would not be needed."

Source of this information?
Funny quote U.S. taxpayers' funds would not be needed."[/quote]

Yet the US was the main force in that and all other wars over there!
Who paid for that?
Yet NATO countries hedge on their dues every year.
Time to let other countries back themselves, instead of letting the USA do the deed.
Takers will always take, and givers will always give.

When you have a UN sanctioned operation, other countries pony up a little. Not so much on" go it alone "operations.

True, seems as little as they can.
Time to stop being the worlds ATM!

Do you think that maaaaaaaaybe we will run ourselves so low on weapons that we will be attacked by China and Russia at our weakest point

Does the fact that Iran has been killing and sponsoring the killing of Americans for the last 40 plus years have any impact on the reasons for attacking Iran? If Israel wasn't involved, would people think differently?
Could this decision have been made purely for the interest of the U.S.A.?
As for getting the U.S. in order, just look at the pushback against shrinking the size of government, fraud investigation, or the support for whistle blowing fools who hinder operations of removing illegals who are robbing us blind. The U.S., I'm afraid, is lost already and I expect a generation who is up in arms over a dust up in the sand doesn't have the kahunas to do what is necessary to take the U.S. back to the nation it once was.

There’s no way for the US to get out of this alone without losing face. Iran is making a mockery out of this.
You can’t use nukes, can’t send ground troops, cyber attacks seem to be non existent, CIA relies 100% on other agencies in the region, ammo’s getting replenished but not over night.
A whole whack of leaders have been taken out, what’s changed? Is there anyway this can be twisted to look like this was a good move?
Right at the start, honestly, did anyone thing this was going to end well of the US?

The education level of some on here is obviously quite low, surprising they manage to jumble together a semi coherent statement sometimes…..lol.
You don’t have to be smart to look back and learn history, but it’s ugly so some refuse to learn……

I've posted this before, but if no one watches you won't understand what's going on in Iran.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjJec0wv1EUomjrBNt1xCTA

He does live reporting 3-4 times a day. Still has family in Tehran, but he is forbidden from ever visiting his home country. Has had to relocate to a new home because of security issues.

LNG is getting through to Pakistan and India. And if you want to keep track of global shipping you can watch this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT_yBgKSiwb3WP4ACPnF5nA

Maybe someone can pull up the "picture" links to the youtube channels please. Thanks.

Yes Sir^^^

Truth

How come bin laden wasn’t hiding in Iran?

Maybe because Pakistan is Sunni as was Bin laden while iran is Shia

Is this a joke? ....waiting for the punchline.

Bumbleclot... lol

Serious question

W17’s explanation makes sense

There are some actors throwing a lot of money around trying to gain influence and it's working.

They threw out an estimated 40 million to get Massie out.

Just give more weapons to Israel .T hey do not seemto have aproblem killing innocent people.

Good idea

The IRGC are nut case radicals that would rather die . Nobody has a clue who is in charge but Iran also knows how to bluff and stall . Trump needs to allow the military to finish the job

There's advantages to Iran in dragging this out as long as they can. Dead islamists are the best type by far. We should slaughter as many as we can to make the World a better place

Keith

The great Satan has spoken!

We are the supplier of weapons for most of the world.
Ukraine gets their weapons through channels in the UN and NATO , from us.
Same as Iseral, Japan, all of Europe , , we're the largest producer of weapons in the world.
Not one other country can compete, except maybe China, and that's why we need tariffs on China goods.
How many on this site have been ripped off by scams for products from China?
Garbage products, and not as advertized.
Sure the credit card companies cover the losses , but we all pay for it in the long run.
Sure we can afford to buy from other countries, while many other countries can't afford to buy what we can.
Just because we built a country that can produce the better products at a higher cost than other countries, doesn't mean we have to buy the cheaper products from other countries.
It all boils down to trying to help build other countries to a higher level of living.
But those countries just take it from the civilians that produce everything.
They still live in a third world country, while their governments live high on the hog.
You can't help a country that their government controls the population and keeps them begging.
It's time to mind our own business , let them fend for themselves.
They've been taking advantage of our country for far too long.
They won't change until they have to.
Givers keep giving, and takers keep taking.
If you have a kid that doesn't hold their own, you have to cut the cord, make them fend for themselves.
It's hard, but if you don't, who's going to support them when you're gone?

While true, the innocent casualties are way too high, so we have to go a different route.
It's going better than the MSM is telling you.

Kind of a very broad statement.
That's like saying that because of one famous confederate general , all confederates were anti slavery.
Or vise a versa one Union general had slaves so all Union soldiers owned slaves.
Theres always more than it seems , and MSM sure doesn't help anyone.

They're just hoping we give into them, and it's not going to happen.
We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, a smart person never lets that out.
And people wonder why, so many get fired in Trump's administration , weeding them out one at a time.
We have a lot stronger leader now than in the Obama/ Biden administrations .