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Re: Mechanic question [Re: OhioBoy] #8634691
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
Crack your oil plug and drain some oil out and see what color it is. if its milky white thats where your water went, which will be at the bottom of the pan near the plug not at the top for the dipstick. Oil floats. Id say thats the most likely. Even though you were trying to not let that happen where else did the water go?

Id probably change the thermostat and maybe the radiator cap. Those are cheap things to try. Maybe the radiator cap wasn't on all the way?

You don't have any known confirmed visible leak it doesn't sound like. Im not sure a stop leak would help.

Cracking the oil plug for 100% confirmation and the thermostat and radiator cap is where I'd start while I watched for leaks and tried to figure out where it was going if its not in the oil and theres not oil in the coolant.

Flushing the heater core and radiator would be next after the easy stuff all while trying to find the leak if its still going missing. The air bubble is possible.

It would be much easier to pull the oil dip stick and would tell you the same thing as cracking the oil drain plug.


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Re: Mechanic question [Re: yotetrapper30] #8634703
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A cooling system pressure test
should not break the bank.

I recommend this rather than throwing cash.
You'll need the money if a head gasket.

On some of the GMs I burped em from
a bolt (plug) on top of the thermostat housing.





Re: Mechanic question [Re: Wright Brothers] #8634704
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
A cooling system pressure test
should not break the bank.

I recommend this rather than throwing cash.
You'll need the money if a head gasket.

On some of the GMs I burped em from
a bolt (plug) on top of the thermostat housing.




Yes, diagnosis and troubleshooting first, before shotgunning parts at it, is the proper way to proceed.


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Re: Mechanic question [Re: yotetrapper30] #8634707
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While you where refilling did you do it with the engine running or turned off? Turned off you trapped air in the upper head. Did you replace the cap after refilling, pressurizing the whole coolant system? Vapor locked the engine, so locally the head gasket could be cooked and it doesn't necessarily have to leak on the ground, leak into the oil, could be leaking into a cylinder/s being vaporized during combustion. Always better to run with little load and slow without the radiator cap so as not to pressurize the system under those circumstances. A pressure leak significantly raises coolant temperature and head temperatures.


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Re: Mechanic question [Re: yotetrapper30] #8634708
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Well, we're gonna drive it today about 60 miles and see what happens. Wish me luck, lol.

Re: Mechanic question [Re: yotetrapper30] #8634711
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Well, we're gonna drive it today about 60 miles and see what happens. Wish me luck, lol.


Just gonna send it!

Good luck, hope it was just an air pocket that burped out. At least take a jug or two of 50/50 mix with you.


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Re: Mechanic question [Re: Scott__aR] #8634712
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
While you where refilling did you do it with the engine running or turned off? Turned off you trapped air in the upper head. Did you replace the cap after refilling, pressurizing the whole coolant system? Vapor locked the engine, so locally the head gasket could be cooked and it doesn't necessarily have to leak on the ground, leak into the oil, could be leaking into a cylinder/s being vaporized during combustion. Always better to run with little load and slow without the radiator cap so as not to pressurize the system under those circumstances. A pressure leak significantly raises coolant temperature and head temperatures.


Yes, I had the vehicle turned off and yes I put the cap back on. You're not making me feel better here....... eek

Re: Mechanic question [Re: MJM] #8634716
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Originally Posted by MJM

It would be much easier to pull the oil dip stick and would tell you the same thing as cracking the oil drain plug.


Not necessarily, the dip stick only enters the top 2 quarts of oil or so, doesn't reach to the bottom of the pan where any water would be found. Only thing the dipstick may tell is if the total volume of oil and any water is high in a cold engine.


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Re: Mechanic question [Re: Sasquatch91] #8634721
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Originally Posted by Sasquatch91
How did throwing the belt off cause you to lose coolant?


The water pump is run by the belt. Losing belt lost the water pump. Without the pump moving coolant through the radiator to cool it, the collant boiled off in the head of the engine. This means the head got very hot (regardless of what temp gauge says - the temp sensor is probably at the coolant outlet, which is representative when the coolant is flowing - not when the pump isn't running and coolant is boiling in the head).

At this point the hope is that the additional coolant loss was just a bubble of air in the system and it won't take any more coolant.

But being hot enough to boil off coolant means it could have easily been hot enough to warp the head. If that's the case, coolant will keep disappearing. If the coolant is getting mixed with oil, the engine won't be running for long. If the coolant is getting burned (leaked into the combustion chamber), it will likely get worse over time, but... A bars leak seal product (or similar) might fix it for a long time if the leak isn't very big and OP is lucky.

Continuing to drive it while leaking coolant is risky. At some point it will get too hot. One way or another, the vehicle wont' be in this situation for long.


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Re: Mechanic question [Re: yotetrapper30] #8634729
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I think you warped or blew a head gasket. It done so no since in saying what you should have done. I think with all the water in it. It is burning the water off and not showing in the oil. If it was anti freeze the oil would be milky.

Re: Mechanic question [Re: Scott__aR] #8634736
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Not necessarily, the dip stick only enters the top 2 quarts of oil or so, doesn't reach to the bottom of the pan where any water would be found. Only thing the dipstick may tell is if the total volume of oil and any water is high in a cold engine.
When an engine is run with water in the oil, it gets mixed up and that is what give you the milk shake look. If it is leaking in with out being run what you say could be true. But once it is run it is mixed and will not separate much.


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Re: Mechanic question [Re: yotetrapper30] #8634746
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Ive got one 2014 5.3 Lt rough idle little bit of smoke at start up not loosing coolant but getting hot oil isn't milky coods show its both to rich and to lean in bank 1 and 2 and passenger side cat isn't running efficiently (per code reader)


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