Wolf in MN
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07/10/26 04:07 PM
07/10/26 04:07 PM
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Joined: Nov 2007
St. Cloud, MN
trapperkeck
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St. Cloud, MN
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Shut down tent camping at a state park. Apparently, a wolf has been pawing at tents and entering tents looking for food. They plan to use noise makers to discourage the wolf. I'm sure that'll work. I did not catch where the park is located, heard it on local radio news.
"The voice of reason!"
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Re: Wolf in MN
[Re: trapperkeck]
#8635695
07/10/26 07:33 PM
07/10/26 07:33 PM
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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Manitoba
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People want to camp, but the wildlife around there can go fly a kite while they’re there? Someone probably fed the dang thing and basically signed its death warrant.
Last edited by 330-Trapper; 07/11/26 09:32 AM. Reason: Avoiding the Profanity filter
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Wolf in MN
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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Yesterday at 10:21 AM
Yesterday at 10:21 AM
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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Manitoba
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"An annual survey of the wolf population on Isle Royale estimated there were 37 wolves on the island this past winter — the highest number since the late 1970s. But the island’s moose population — a major food source for wolves — has dropped sharply."
Gee, I wonder why? One thing we've learned after over 70 years of studying the island is the more we know, the more we realize that we don't know. Look at the dynamics of the population levels and the other factors on the "isolated" ecosystem, not just wolf & moose. There's many other factors that effect the population levels. When an intestinal parasite nearly wiped the wolves off the island, so did the moose levels crash, but beaver came back. The moose/wolf population levels are conflicting if you use the "lots of wolves = no moose" theory. There's things so small we can't see, or other seemingly minor things that we refuse/ignore that effect the ecosystem way more than we know. It's just not that simple.....lol The studies by the real biologists that haven't picked a pro/anti wolf side have noted this from YNP to BNP. There's just not enough money to complete detailed studies on this. The money goes to anti/pro wolf because it's cool. And if the study doesn't fit the funders agenda, it gets cut. Not too many can afford to just tell the truth nowadays.......just like our news media.......lol We all know that nature likes extremes, not harmony and balance. People hate change, but it's the only thing that's inevitable.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Wolf in MN
[Re: trapperkeck]
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Yesterday at 11:37 AM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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james bay frontierOnt.
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I have never seen a starving wolf. I have seen plenty of hungry wolves. Wolves have no trouble killing anything on the land big and small including each other even the weak in their own pack become just another package of protein.I seen where a pack of wolves caught and killed a very large blackbear in the middle of an old burn,I picked up the skull and it was bigger than any bear I had ever shot and I killed a couple spring bear in the 400lb range. I have often seen bear hair in wolf scat.
Last edited by Boco; Yesterday at 11:43 AM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Wolf in MN
[Re: Shakeyjake]
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3 hours ago
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MN
walleye101
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MN
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"An annual survey of the wolf population on Isle Royale estimated there were 37 wolves on the island this past winter — the highest number since the late 1970s. But the island’s moose population — a major food source for wolves — has dropped sharply."
Gee, I wonder why? One thing we've learned after over 70 years of studying the island is the more we know, the more we realize that we don't know. Look at the dynamics of the population levels and the other factors on the "isolated" ecosystem, not just wolf & moose. There's many other factors that effect the population levels. When an intestinal parasite nearly wiped the wolves off the island, so did the moose levels crash, but beaver came back. The moose/wolf population levels are conflicting if you use the "lots of wolves = no moose" theory. There's things so small we can't see, or other seemingly minor things that we refuse/ignore that effect the ecosystem way more than we know. It's just not that simple.....lol The studies by the real biologists that haven't picked a pro/anti wolf side have noted this from YNP to BNP. There's just not enough money to complete detailed studies on this. The money goes to anti/pro wolf because it's cool. And if the study doesn't fit the funders agenda, it gets cut. Not too many can afford to just tell the truth nowadays.......just like our news media.......lol We all know that nature likes extremes, not harmony and balance. People hate change, but it's the only thing that's inevitable. Of course there are other factors that can effect population levels, but clearly the overriding factor over the 70 year study has been more wolves = fewer moose. The whole point of any study is to learn, and be able to take what is learned and apply it elsewhere. If what we have learned on Isle Royal isn't obvious yet, it won't be in another 70 years.
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Re: Wolf in MN
[Re: trapperkeck]
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51 minutes ago
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Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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The research conflicts with your statement. Now when I say research, I'm not talking the coles notes in a few pages, you have to read it in it's entirety. Anti/pro wolfers love to take little tid bits out and leave other important details on the way side to suit their narrative...........just like CNN, Fox....etc. Don't be a sucker. It's just as hard to reason with anti wolfers as it is pro wolfers. BNP is another good study, but human contact has more of an influence.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Wolf in MN
[Re: trapperkeck]
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51 minutes ago
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rogers city mi.
jeff karsten
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rogers city mi.
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Not to long ago 2 people were found dead on isle royale fbi investigated story disappeared fast Now seeing wolves in a place known to have wolves is newsworthy
olden tyred
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