Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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11/26/19 10:59 AM
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(1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles, or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 and including conduct that, if committed against a person and in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, would violate section 2241 or 2242)
These are not good words for us.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: BillyTraps]
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11/26/19 11:10 AM
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It's a slippery slope and no doubt next time we get a muslim/anti American congress and president this law will be used to move the needle further to the left, same as they weaponized the patriot act to destroy political opponents for 8 years.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: James]
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11/26/19 11:11 AM
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I hadn't heard of that Act, but have to wonder how "torture" is described. Can it be construed to ban trapping?
Notice how Trump praises the Humane Society representative.
Told ya that man ain't on our side.
Jim Just wait and see what he will do to undermine us if he wins a second term and no longer needs his base. He instinctively steers towards anything that provides publicity and adoration. It does matter who adores him--it's what drives his "decisions".
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: James]
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11/26/19 03:57 PM
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I hadn't heard of that Act, but have to wonder how "torture" is described. Can it be construed to ban trapping?
Told ya that man ain't on our side.
Jim don't you owe him an apology? why yes, yes you do.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
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11/26/19 04:35 PM
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I hadn't heard of that Act, but have to wonder how "torture" is described. Can it be construed to ban trapping?
Told ya that man ain't on our side.
Jim don't you owe him an apology? why yes, yes you do.
E 'Honey Badger Militia' Sleep, the anti woke adote.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: BillyTraps]
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11/26/19 04:48 PM
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“Unintentional Conduct.”
I know of no one that intentionally botches a dispatch so they would have to repeat the method on the same animal. Even the lawyers on here could sell that.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: BillyTraps]
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11/26/19 05:21 PM
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Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
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11/26/19 05:46 PM
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Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends. Really? They made an exception especially for us.
-Goofy-
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
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11/26/19 05:54 PM
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Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends. trappers enjoy videos of crushing animals? not the ones I know. how can anyone be against this legislation (can't believe it's NEEDED, but Satan has free reign here)
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
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[quote=Blaine County](1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles, or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 and including conduct that, if committed against a person and in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, would violate section 2241 or 2242)
These are not good words for us.[/quotell
Nah-lug says ya gotta have a crystal ball iffin' ya figger them words 'll be a problem for us.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
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11/26/19 06:23 PM
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The War on Animal Abuser's. They will now establish a special task force called "Animal force". Cost to the tax payer's 5.6 billion. Anybody with political connection's welcome to apply for employment in the new "Animal Force". Just joking maybe.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: white marlin]
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11/26/19 06:24 PM
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Pretty sure it passed the House and Senate unanimously. Guess us trappers have no friends. trappers enjoy videos of crushing animals? not the ones I know. how can anyone be against this legislation (can't believe it's NEEDED, but Satan has free reign here) According to James, Trump ain't on our side because he signed it so I figured that means none of our Senators or Representatives are on our side either. Using James's reasoning. As for my opinion I think all animal cruelty laws are a joke. As long as it remains legal to kill the unborn I myself will not support any form of animal welfare legislation.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
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11/26/19 06:40 PM
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(1) the term `animal crushing' means actual conduct in which one or more living non-human mammals, birds, reptiles, or amphibians is purposely crushed, burned, drowned, suffocated, impaled, or otherwise subjected to serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 and including conduct that, if committed against a person and in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, would violate section 2241 or 2242)
These are not good words for us. Nah-lug says ya gotta have a crystal ball iffin' ya figger them words 'll be a problem for us. So outside of the exception for trappers you are ok with setting the neighbor’s barking dog on fire or throwing it overboard with a rock on its leash? Or tying a Walmart bag over its head? lol
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: BillyTraps]
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11/26/19 06:48 PM
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This should not be any of the Federal Government's concern.
Just more over reach so they can confiscate more tax dollars. and empower themselves.
Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 11/26/19 06:49 PM.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Trump : Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture
[Re: BillyTraps]
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11/26/19 07:51 PM
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Keithc is spot on . Just watch some of the commercials that run humanizing animals.
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