To those who consigned has anyone seen results?

Unsold to be re-offered

Not yet, checked about 6 times this morning now. Ya I'm bored ok.

maybe in a day or two that what fha website said

Yeah I saw that but wondered if those who consigned and registered had seen anything.

Probably be another couple of days. Most of the FHA staff is working from home, trying to keep things moving forward.

Invoices for goods sold were issued last Friday. So that part is moving forward. Now to get buyers to pay for their purchases, so that shippers can be paid on (or near) prompt date.

Thank you again for the information Wissmiss.
There should be a "TIP JAR" for all your reply's

I have some Canadian pennies saved away to put in there!

Here's my tip: put trap where critter steps.

FHA has posted the Private Treaty catalog for unsold goods from their recent online sale. This catalog is available to registered buyers only. Sorry, I don’t make the rules.

This will be an opportunity for the buyers who didn’t get what they needed at the auction to buy goods without having to wait for the live auction in May (or when ever the next one happens). Hopefully some shippers will see additional sales from the PT catalog.

I have no idea if/when/how these results will be posted. Just be patient. FHA will get this all taken care of as soon as they can. From a buyers perspective, they have done a great job so far dealing with the entire situation.

Can you disclose some info about that, or is that also top secret?

Not much to disclose. Typical PT catalog. Prices appear to be what the valuations were in the on line auction catalog. Just FHA trying to move more goods.

Not sure what information you are looking for.

I talked to dealer today and he said he would see If he could get registered as a buyer. He said If It happens he would share the wealth. Well as long as he wasn't restricted by some buyer regs.

Just that, but now if someone wants to buy stuff there is at least a little wiggle room on price right?

Probably a bit of wiggle room. There usually is. Amount of wiggle room often depends on the species and how it sold during the auction. Also depends on how many skins a buyer wants to buy. A buyer wanting to buy 10000 Raccoon has a lot more clout than a buyer wanting to buy 150 Raccoon.

The way it worked at NAFA was, if the species sold well in the auction room, there wasn’t much room to dicker in the PT room. If the species was ignored in the auction room - say wild mink - there was a lot more room for price negotiation in the PT room.

Everybody better be nice to Beav. He is going to “crack the code” and share the top secret info with every one.

lol. He'll crack something, alright!

He already has a long time ago Lee. LLL

If you have coyotes on this sale I hope you do better then you did on the last sale.

If all my mink sold--well I'm gonna be rich !!!!!!LMAO

My sources tell me that a May sale is not likely. It's looking like September is when it will happen.

Before this down turn in copper prices those were worth 1.25 cents US$. and you can sell them as scrap below the 49th

Well maybe today is the day? I mean its only been 5 days now....

If you're just killing time before the results become available may I suggest you join my newly established Trapperman Book Club?

Coulda read a huge book by now. Anyway what u going on bout. (Bookclub)

Wissmiss notice any movement on the private treaty stuff especially better western coyotes?

Haven’t checked. Probably too early for much action. Sales MIGHT happen once buyers have a chance to figure out what they still need, if anything.

One issue right now is getting the goods they already bought. Buyers in Canada might be ok as far as delivery of goods go. Not sure about China or Greece or South Korea or any of those fur dressing hot spots.

I know for US buyers, they might be in for a wait, with the borders being closed and all. The FHA staff has a customs broker working in it. But it is too early after the sale to expect much to happen.

Ahh I suppose. Still waiting to see if i sold anything from the first go around.

I’m sure shipper results will be posted as soon as possible. I know it is tough waiting. Hang in there.

Might have missed it but did they give a prompt date yet?

I’ve seen 2 different prompt dates.

Invoice to buyers for goods bought say. 17 April 2020.

Saw an email from FH that says 23 April 2020

Either way, at least 10 days out.

BTW - I did my part as a buyer. I paid my invoice yesterday.

My prices are posted....50 % clearance

Prices down on what sold but it was not a fire sale.

You know I think FHA is deserving a huge Thanks from us for trying against all odds to facilitate a sale that would put some money in the hands of the trapper and I for one am grateful to them for all their efforts! In the same breath i am a bit confused over a .50 coon i hand picked every coon i killed and thought that perhaps 5.00 was the lowest coon i had but you have to stand back and look at a buyer on his computer looking at a grade and valuation while never seeing the skin or facing competition and taking a chance sight unseen on that lot, not a great situation to be in as a buyer or seller however i thank Furharvesters with all my heart for their valiant attempt at sustaining this obviously dying industry. Unfortunately I don't believe that the fur industry;s heart has many more beats left in it but man what a glorious Life it has given me!!

I see where a few sold. I had mostly rats & coyotes. 3.90 for the avg rat & 49.00 for coyote. Top coyote was 100.00 and top rat 6.00. Not great but I'm sure not going to complain.

I am also thankful for all the work FHA did to hold the sale. I had 3 3x xdk's bring $56 each and a nice 3x black $66. I am happy they held the line on most of the slights.

What per cent coon, rat, mink an beaver sold, an section an price ? My rats sold slightly less in country than auction if $3.90 rat, 11per cent commision minus, plus freight fee I just thought of, same price country 6 wks ago, got more than that in dec

I am pleased with the results of the FHA Auction considering the circumstances. My well handled crusty southern beaver averaged $12.50. As a first time FHA shipper I could see myself utilizing them as an outlet again in the future. I hope you all did ok on your fur at the auction also.

I will check later but as of now no coon sold and only 27 of my couple hundred rats. I had 19 3xl-2xl 11 grades sell for $3.90 and a small lot of 3xl-lge sell for $2.90. All my heavier rats did not sell or my smaller ones either.

Bryce

Only 38% of my coyotes sold, the lowest valued ones and none of my fox.

I’m very pleased considering the circumstances. My eastern coyotes averaged 108us, and 18.50 on the few coon I sent in. Also my big bear was bought by a t-man member again this year at a very respectable price. I think it would of been a heck of a sale if things had of went as planned. This is the most I’ve ever averaged for my coyotes, especially with the exchange. Cats never moved but I expected that.
Hats off to FHA!

My low end coyote averaged $52 October and Damaged high coyote was $113 no fox sold out of 23 high end rat $3.90 but most were in $2.30 had 4 coons above $15 and one at $28! but most of the coon were under $8. Hoping the next sale the high end coyote hold up a lot unsold but I would not by much looking at a description on line vs looking at it. I will be dealing with them again for sure.

sold a few rats,not the good ones $3.70 average and a couple damaged coon $1.50 average

Prompt date is April 23.

only sold my best 2 coons 1-$24 and 1- $21

Coon definately better at auction than in country if coon in this area. I would came out way ahead

coonman, it depends on how you slice it. From what I've been told, mostly the high end coon (big, heavy), with some damaged stuff as well, sold. So, right now for the more desired coon regions, the averages are decent, some in the high teens, but the clearance is low. Now, more results may be showing up this week, but what happens to the average when the rest of the 80% of the lot sells this summer or next year, or...?

When you sold to GFW with your last coon, did they take them all or leave with the common stuff?

This is my lots pretty much tells me what sold


MUSKRAT
LOT# DESCRIPTION STOCK # QTY PRICE EXTENDED
80006 3X-2X I-II SEMI 98080027 5 Unsold to be re-offered
80013 3X-2X I-II 98080026 9 Unsold to be re-offered
80030 3X-2X GD SLT 98080035 1 Unsold to be re-offered
80035 3X-2X SLT DGD 98080024 1 Unsold to be re-offered
80054 1X I-II HVY 98080030 9 Unsold to be re-offered
80063 1X I-II 98080032 5 Unsold to be re-offered
80077 1X-LG GD SLT 98080049 1 Unsold to be re-offered
80083 1X-LG SLT DGD 98080034 1 Unsold to be re-offered
80093 LG I-II 98080022 4 Unsold to be re-offered
80115 MD I-II 98080025 2 Unsold to be re-offered
80122 MD-SM SLT DGD 98080064 2 Unsold to be re-offered
80126 SM-XS I-II 98080039 1 Unsold to be re-offered
80182 3X-LG DGD 98080019 3 $2.10 $6.30
80191 MD-SM DGD 98080066 1 $0.25 $0.25

Average: $1.64 Sold: 4 Unsold: 41 SubTotal $6.55

RACCOON
LOT# DESCRIPTION STOCK # QTY PRICE EXTENDED
90590 1X II A-D 98090602 1 Unsold to be re-offered
90843 2X SLT DGD C-D 98090551 1 Unsold to be re-offered
90844 2X SLT DGD C-D 98090552 1 Unsold to be re-offered
90867 1X I-II A-B 98090588 1 Unsold to be re-offered
90874 1X SLT DGD C-D 98090609 1 $1.00 $1.00
90905 LG I-II C-D 98090639 1 Unsold to be re-offered
91045 4X-3X GD DGD 98090225 1 $2.00 $2.00
91046 4X-3X GD DGD 98090226 1 $2.00 $2.00
91093 LG GD DGD A-D 98090660 1 Unsold to be re-offered

Average: $1.67 Sold: 3 Unsold: 6 SubTotal $5.00

COYOTE
LOT# DESCRIPTION STOCK # QTY PRICE EXTENDED
150451 3X-2X I HVY C-D 2 98150013 1 $82.00 $82.00
150463 3X-2X I SEMI C-D 98150001 1 Unsold to be re-offered
150482 3X-2X I-II LT C-D 1 98150081 1 Unsold to be re-offered

Average: $82.00 Sold: 1 Unsold: 2 SubTotal $82.00

I traded my fur locally for cabinet incubator, I know I did better the most of you at fha

Not true averages, my low end coyotes sold for 25 bucks average. So I was pretty disappointed about that. Cuz I thought they were pretty good coyotes. Now here's where it gets tricky. So ignore it! Coon average 11:50. Only sold a few on the very top end and a few on the very bottom end. Top Coon was $32. So that was exciting. Not really. Badgers sold For $19 a piece average for two. That was the Brite Spot. Mostly. I'm just glad to know that the fur Market Has a pulse.

Here's my take on the Coon Market. If it's top quality heavy big raccoon. With no damage. It's worth pretty decent money. Anything small. Or with damage Is worth $2 maybe or less. I'm not telling a lot of you anything. Just my too cents.

I hope this flop don't cause fha to join nafa and alc.

Looks like a pretty tight grade on rats.

I actually think FHA did pretty good, right NOW no fur buyer I know is buying ANYTHING. Being some coon sold is a good sign, it's better than nothing which is exactly what I would receive in the country now. FHA should be commended for making this auction happen.

When you sit back and think of the challenges faced by FHA to hold this sale, all I can say is well done.

1. NAFA folds and there fur input increases dramatically
2. They are holding a sale in North Bay Ont, Then in Toronto Ont in conjunction with NAFA. Then its only going to be online.
3. There is a global pandemic!

So besides wishing for 150 avg on my coyotes and 60 on my beavers, with a 100% clearance on everything, I am happy with it.

Avg 50 on my eastern Coyotes, 20 on my beaver, 2.90 on my rats. About 50% clearance.

Only sold my damaged coon which netted me a 1.90 avg

No foxes sold.

hundred percent clearance on my otter, low price but at least they sold this time round.

Really feel for the smaller fur buyers that bought on speculation in this market. Hopefully not to many of them fold. Truly believe that we need as many options as possible. If you can, support your local buyer and the auction house.

I sold all my rats In the country for a $4.00 nose count. If I would have waited to sell on the FHA sale I would have lost money.
So If a person would have sold In Dec you may have done better. And so far the clearances look pretty bad.

You lucked out Beav. And then the S.S. Corona wrecked on the rocks; people who bought your fur probably not so lucky. Wonder what the country buyer price for 'rats nose count is now.

Oh for a crystal ball.

yes coon are hot figure the unsold with the sold ones and how about the ones never got taken home in the average to I heard that all cos got sent home for lock down better keep them traps set doesn't get any better than this go get them

yes Beav very tight average on muskrat. Think they are grading tight to give buyers confidence. About 5% or 6000 rats were in this lot string : 80182 3X-LG DGD 98080019 3 $2.10 $6.30

beaver---beaver---beaver--

says the guy with ugly yotes and even uglier cats.

So...are you going to sell your beaver to Crum??

Any idea what is he paying?

Remember all the people on here telling the beav he don't need no valuations. What are you going to learn now that most fur didn't sell? I waited patiently to find out nothing. If i could have seen valuation, i would have known what i needed to know 3 weeks ago. After this sale, i still won't know.

I had fisher, coyotes, red and grey fox, bobcat and mink. Nothing sold. In the past I have always been satisfied with the results I received from FHA, but I fear they will soon being going down the same road as NAFA ?

not even sure Warrens buying.hopin for fha still.

I think the sale was what we should have expected it would be. We knew conditions going in were about as bad as they could possibly get and not something any of us had ever been through before. The fact they sold any fur is probably a good sign and I'm thankful it wasn't a fire sale. I guess we'll know more after the next auction. Hopefully we'll have better clearances at decent prices or I'll have to eat my previous statement.

There’s still life in the coyote market.

Groenewold's are still buying coyotes, and rats, shipped to their facility.

if coyotes did better this sale than last i might be rich lol considering i had 4 in the top lot last year

Today sold green rats $3, coon $4, beaver $7, g. fox $13. No commission, no checks, just cash.
I’m happy.

Thanks for the info Dave, wasn't aware.

Has everything been posted on our accounts. I have marten, otter, and weasels all saying unsold.

Has everything been posted on our accounts. I have marten, otter, and weasels all saying unsold.

Trinkets and beads, trinkets and beads. lol

Are you sure?

Who was the buyer, 080808 ?

If you don't mind disclosing this info, that is............

w

Please..

If I may ask, how many of each species did you sell?

20 rats, 8 Beav, 4 coon. Neighbor sold 100 rats, same price. Sorry but I’m waiting to get a return call from the buyer regarding giving out his contact into.

fair enough,thanx

Sterling Garlock A Bay or Clayton. 315 681 7228

Thanks!

Summary of sale results were just posted.

Skunks shine at FHA March sale!

Would someone please post the summary of sale results. It was not listed in their web site.

It is listed on their web site. Right hand side middle of the page. Here is a link.

https://www.furharvesters.com/results/2020/March/mar20us.pdf

Special for Beav: PT catelogue is posted with valuations. Click on species - first species is bvr.

Wissmiss I tried to look at a bunch of my beavers and skunks that said unsold but cant find them in the private treaty catalog, does that mean they just sold but my account hasnt been updated yet? And castor also says no lots

I wonder if beav whining made a difference and they decided to post it or is it a mistake

Wow eastern coyotes sold for decent money and clearance but westerns did not

Problem is, we don't know how many eastern heavy coyotes were actually offered!

Kingrat - not sure what that means. Could be sold and not updated. Guess you will have to wait and see.

On the castor - it is almost always sold after fur fur part of the auction. My understanding is that the castor price has dropped off with the virus stuff going around. Castor price got pushed really high in the country this year. FH might hold off selling castor until the market comes back.

If FH were to sell castor well below what the country price was earlier, there would be lots of complaining,

Well there ya go, those valuations in the PT catalog are the same as the values during the auction.

SO now everyone can see, isn't it great!

Oh that's right, it makes no difference at all!

Thanks 080808.

Has this fellow been in the fur buying business long ?

Have not heard of him before this.

Thanks again.

w

Ok thanks, I saw they said skunks sold 99% but I still have 5 selects in different sizes saying unsold and about 8 lots of beavers that I cant find . I'm probably rich and dont even know it I'm thinking. And ya I'd be fine with them holding my castor until it bounces back.

Looking at the mink in the private treaty valuations. Males that have a I-II grade have a higher valuation than a Select? And in females a I-II with ticks and scars higher valuation than a Select?? Am I dumb or would someone care to explain. I have never seen a PT list before. Or is this what was actually paid for those lots?

There are no skunks listed in the PT. I assume that means they are all sold. I doubt that FH updates shipper accounts every time something sells. Most likely they will show up by the time checks are issued.

The squeeky wheel gets the grease. Same reason i have moose.

If you are looking at mink lots starting with 20043 - with a $12.00 valuation - it could be that those are a dealers lot left over from last season that has a shipper limit on it.

FH made an announcement back in October that they would not be accepting any dealer lots with limits during this season. However, it is possible an exception could have been made for a particular shipper or one with special circumstances.

And AKMike is right - every one - including Beav - can view then PTmcatalog and see what the valuations are. I’m willing to beat that if Beav or any one else that was interested in investing in the fur market - that FH would be happy to sell them some fur. Just show them the money!!!

Thanks wissmiss! Yep those were the lots! Kinda thought I should be in the money because I sent several with T&S. But none graded as such!

Yea, that doesn’t make much sense to me. Must have been just a handful of Eastern Heavy offered, and sold for a high price. Not often will an eastern heavy sell for more than a western heavy.

Don’t know how long he has been buying.

If you can not find those 8 lots of bvr in the PT catelogue then suspect they are already sold PT and your account will be updated when PT is done. Just looked at my buddies account for him and he has 3 lots of bvr missing from PT that were listed as unsold on his sales report issued April 7.

It makes sense because they sold the better Eastern Heavies and held on to the better Westerns.

But they are only posting prices for Select skins.

You can thank me later Kingrat. LOL

I did outloud yesterday when they posted it...

Anyone have accounts updated yet or news on castor? Maybe today's the day .

NAFA sent me an e-mail about a week ago with a link to their private treaty catalog. I take it these are furs that didn't sell at FHA?

No those are furs from nafa that have been there awhile. They can't afford an auction so are trying to sell some of it I guess

37 out of 205 rats sold. My larger lower grade rats sold for $3.68 average. None of the heavies in either 3x-2xl or xl sold or the smaller rats. My limited coon lot had no sales. I had 5 5xl-4xl coons with good or lower colors and none sold.

Bryce

Thanks,

The smallish amount of furs had me thinking they should have more somewhere else.

I don't think so. NAFA has there own PT catalogs posted. The FHA PT catalog is unsold fur from the FHA internet auction.

That's what im talking about, NAFAs catalog.

Sorry I didn't make that clearer.

Any word on how castor did?

I’m thinking castor hasn’t sold yet. They usually post an announcement when it does.

They have only 2 people working in the warehouse. They are keeping busy with PT inquires and packing shipments.

Theyll be mailing checks soon I would imagine? Maybe by July stuff will be updated.

I'd run to the bank drive thru to cash them.

Direct deposit for me. Have faith not everyone is nafa.

All my rats went private treaty and looks like most are gone now. Still nothing updated in accounts yet or word on castor though

It looks like the online PT catalog is not being updated as Goods sell. I do know the PT guy at FH has been busy. Plus he is helping out in the warehouse. Castor is probably the last thing on their mind right now.

Ya I get that; but seriously some of us would like to know roughly how much of a check we'll be getting in a week.
I'm lucky and my job isn't affected by all this but some aren't so lucky. Rumour is castor sold for more than last year. Believe it when I see it.

How can you tell? Have the lots in the PT Catalogue disappeared? If so, mine haven't sold.

Ya I wrote down my lot numbers and now they're not in the catalog anymore