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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7101769
12/23/20 09:07 AM
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Your a drama queen,I never lost any of my many firearms that I have owned for my entire 65 years.
That list is mostly re classified military stuff,dont know anyone owning guns on that list except collectors or range shooters,and they can still own them.


And you are just simply not being truthful. That list has over 1500 models that were made illegal overnight. No you still cant own them. They are working on a "buyback' program right now and you know it. Just because you dont know anyone who owned guns on that list means what exactly?? Are you and the people you know the only gun owners that matter? I know 3 guys that had guns on that list personally. Some big bores were also outlawed, it wasnt just semi autos. I know you already know all this, why you are trying to cover for the liberals I just cant imagine. Seems like eastern canucks overlook a lot of things the liberals do, thats why we keep getting stuck with them in office.


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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Gene Dziza] #7101791
12/23/20 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Gene Dziza
Originally Posted by Boco
You can have any gun here that you can in the states as long as you got your licence.
Gun licence is like a drivers licence here.
Once you have your licence there is none of that dumb waiting for background checks of having someone else with a licence get one in the mail for you.We can buy/order guns/ammo anywhere any time here.
Like trapping you guys have too many restrictions down there.

That's a great way to do it, IMO. Have a license that supports that you don't have mental illness or felonies, and then be allowed to buy a gun anytime. Also make it so private sales have to be conducted with someone with a valid license. I would be all for that.

I didn't think you guys could carry a concealed handgun. Am I wrong on that?

Do you guys have the severe ammo shortage we have going on?


Who defines "mental illness"? Lots of people in this country would say you were "mentally ill" for wanting a gun.

Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7101913
12/23/20 10:55 AM
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254 - You are on the money. I have heard even 12 gauge shotguns with removable plugs are now illegal. is this true? With a stroke of a pen the thing has made a lot of gun owners criminals, even though they are not aware of it.

Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7101922
12/23/20 11:05 AM
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The OIC (order in council) has a great many problems... including "accidentally" rendering many removable choke 12 gauge shotguns prohib simply due to bore diameter. They have since offered a BS clarification so that they don't lose all those precious votes in Central and Eastern Ontario and all other points East from there... those are the Fudds who were promised that they could still keep Grandpa's shotgun for duck hunting and their .30 30 for their once a year drinking (moose hunting) trips.
You'll hear a lot of things like... who needs a handgun/AR platform rifle... if you need a semi auto for hunting you're a bad shot...and on, and on, and on from people who want to justify voting for any major party besides the Conservatives... since EVERY other major party has pledged to take away our guns to varying degree.
The union boys will vote NDP because they think a conservative gov't somehow weakens their bargaining positions; the French will vote Liberal because Meme and Pepe told them that the conservatives are evil Anglophones intent on destroying their culture and language
I personally wouldn't give a rat's behind who was in power if it weren't for the fact that EVERY party except one (not counting fringe parties) has outright pledged to their electorate that they will be banning some, most or all civilian firearm ownership.
I think most are just reluctant to risk whatever freebies the gov't throws at them for being part of a special group or classification of human being so they create boogey men in order to continue slobbering at the trough


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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Twolines] #7101926
12/23/20 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Twolines
I understand it’s not about the robberies. I’m just curious about the crime rate and how the crimes are committed in Canada.
Where I’m originally from “gun regulation” and crime are almost always mentioned together. We all know what it’s really about.
I want to understand how a nation of people just said ok, here are the guns. Take them. What persuaded everyone to give up? Were the authorities and or military threatening action against them?
How do you imprison at least half of a nation?


Which nation? I’ve got every gun I’ve ever owned, might even order another online on Boxing Day and have it come to my door.

In terms or crime are you talking only robbery or are you talking every crime? For example “rape” happens at a rate of almost 16 times more per unit of population in the US than here yet we have a little bit more vehicle theft per same unit than the USA does.

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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7102013
12/23/20 12:25 PM
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Forget the crime questions...why did y’all turn yella and just roll over with yer bums in the air? It’s not about which gun it’s about any gun. It’s about letting some leftist tyrant baby sitter tell you no.

Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7102024
12/23/20 12:39 PM
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Forget the crime?’s, why? Is it easier to just call me yella than it is to wonder why if I had a daughter in the US she’d be 16 times as likely to get raped?
It is also true that we have higher levels of certain crimes.

You brought the crime up, now you prefer to deflect away from that with insults. whistle

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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Boco] #7102028
12/23/20 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
That is a concern with the federal libs here sly.But Truedope and crew wont be in power here forever,and the Conservatives are much more gun friendly.
Plus people dont have to comply with restrictive gun legislation.That was the main reason the gun registry was abolished here-it cost an exorbitant amount of money and most people didnt register their guns anyway.
Plus they cant make the Indians or anyone else who declares they make part of their living with guns comply with restrictive gun laws.

That only requires a change in the law, You can't refuse to comply with any single gun law in the states just because you make a living with them. I promise someone in Canada is considering that now, at least how to approach that change.

Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7102042
12/23/20 12:51 PM
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Canada has no constitutional "right" to own guns like the states does-thats the biggest difference.
Owning a gun in Canada is a priviledge,and priviledges come with responsibility.
Rights also come with responsibility-and rights can be taken away just as fast as a priviledge when certain "govts" take the reigns.
I wouldnt be too cocky about "rights" being inalienable under Joe and the Ho.

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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7102119
12/23/20 01:44 PM
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I let up with the crime questions because you and others keep dancing around my other questions. Why you just rolled over?
What was my insult? Yella? That’s a truth bud not meant to be an insult.

Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Boco] #7102136
12/23/20 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Canada has no constitutional "right" to own guns like the states does-thats the biggest difference.
Owning a gun in Canada is a priviledge,and priviledges come with responsibility.
Rights also come with responsibility-and rights can be taken away just as fast as a priviledge when certain "govts" take the reigns.
I wouldnt be too cocky about "rights" being inalienable under Joe and the Ho.

Boco, I think it's Joe and the Ho who doesn't need to be to cocky.

"We the People" ultimately run this freedom show.


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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7102139
12/23/20 01:58 PM
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Hey Twolines, I have only been jumping in and out of this thread and maybe did not notice you had some direct and pointed questions above. I'll do my best here...

There is very little gun crime in Canada outside of Toronto, Vancouver and Winnipeg and some areas around dirt poor reserves. In Toronto, there has been a recent rash of gun crime involving handguns illegally imported from the US in almost all cases. I don't have specific numbers, but I can tell you that on a per capita basis it is nowhere near the violent crime rates in many parts of the USA.
As Boco stated above.. we don't have a constitutionally enshrined right to keep and bear arms. I wish we did, but we don't.
I can also say that many people here did not roll over... the non-compliance rates during the registration scheme were very high and for those foolish enough to publish it on social media, a lot of folks here do not plan to comply with any buy back program either. Screeching on the internet that you're going to violently resist gun confiscation is (IMO) just stupid.
To add to our problems, a great many in the military are of the opinion that civilians should not be armed as are most of the RCMP, local and provincial police that I have spoken to... they are in large part not on our side.

I live a 2 minute boat ride from downtown Detroit, yet there is almost zero chance of me being the victim of a violent crime if I am out wandering around the city at 3am... honestly, near zero. I can't say why that is, but it is true. Not so true in Toronto or Winnipeg, but here in Windsor, it's true.


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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7102149
12/23/20 02:09 PM
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Slydogx--what level and how many policemen have you been talking to? I can believe some management would have that view, but if it is to Constables you are talking to I find that opinion hard to believe. If it is so times haves sure changed since I was "on the road"

Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7102157
12/23/20 02:16 PM
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RCMP - just review the press releases from Blair the traitor
Police - OPP I have heard this opinion from management and street level officers; Locally, it is a widespread opinion at street level that regular people can't be trusted with guns and that it just makes their job more dangerous


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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: slydogx] #7102522
12/23/20 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by slydogx
The OIC (order in council) has a great many problems... including "accidentally" rendering many removable choke 12 gauge shotguns prohib simply due to bore diameter. They have since offered a BS clarification so that they don't lose all those precious votes in Central and Eastern Ontario and all other points East from there... those are the Fudds who were promised that they could still keep Grandpa's shotgun for duck hunting and their .30 30 for their once a year drinking (moose hunting) trips.
You'll hear a lot of things like... who needs a handgun/AR platform rifle... if you need a semi auto for hunting you're a bad shot...and on, and on, and on from people who want to justify voting for any major party besides the Conservatives... since EVERY other major party has pledged to take away our guns to varying degree.
The union boys will vote NDP because they think a conservative gov't somehow weakens their bargaining positions; the French will vote Liberal because Meme and Pepe told them that the conservatives are evil Anglophones intent on destroying their culture and language
I personally wouldn't give a rat's behind who was in power if it weren't for the fact that EVERY party except one (not counting fringe parties) has outright pledged to their electorate that they will be banning some, most or all civilian firearm ownership.
I think most are just reluctant to risk whatever freebies the gov't throws at them for being part of a special group or classification of human being so they create boogey men in order to continue slobbering at the trough


You sir, can sit by my fire any day. We need more folks with thinking skills such as yours.


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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7102533
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How much longer is it going to be Canada- wouldn't the European Panhandle be more fitting? whistle


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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Leftlane] #7102560
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How much longer is it going to be Canada- wouldn't the European Panhandle be more fitting? whistle

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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Twolines] #7103366
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Originally Posted by Twolines
I let up with the crime questions because you and others keep dancing around my other questions. Why you just rolled over?
What was my insult? Yella? That’s a truth bud not meant to be an insult.


I went back through the thread to find these other ?’s I was apparently dancing around. I’d answer some if they were not tongue in cheek style, such as “how do you imprison half a nation”? What are you even talking about here. I actually think you decided to backpedal on the crime ?’s because Alaska is about as messed up as it gets for crime rates.

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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: rvsask] #7103497
12/24/20 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rvsask
Forget the crime?’s, why? Is it easier to just call me yella than it is to wonder why if I had a daughter in the US she’d be 16 times as likely to get raped ?


In Canada,

She'd be 16 times as likely to be killed, and eaten by a Cannibal !!!! shocked


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Re: Is This True Canada? [Re: Savell] #7103602
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Walleyed, there’s gotta be a better “burn” than that. eek

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