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Canines, how careful do you need to be
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 03/26/21 01:46 PM
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 Maine
Mac
 
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How many guys use a ground cloth when setting for canines in order to cut down on human scent? How many use gloves for setting canine traps?
 
  I realize the human scent or as one of my old  instructors called it, you aura, has been discussed many times.
  Just curious as to what different trappers think and how they do things.
  I know lots of guys do not even place human scent on the radar, as another instructor of mine said. Others are a bit careful, but not much thought is given to being scent free or attempting to keep it down.
  Old school guys used to be paranoid about scent.
  Steeltraps posts got me to thinking about this the other evening when he mentioned he used a ground cloth.
  Thanks for any responses.
  Mac 
 
  
 
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 02:10 PM
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I wear gloves for setting, different gloves to apply bait. Kneel on garbage to keep knees dry, and wear knee hi rubber boots. Set with clean tools,  check traps only not settings new traps. 
 
  
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 02:20 PM
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Like the others posted, I wear gloves to keep my hands from getting beat up any worse than what they are now and use different gloves or bare handed to apply bait and lure.  Got a good pair of knee pads to save my knees and a good pair of muck boots to keep my feet warm and dry.  Not that human scent doesn't matter as I know I can't eliminate it but I do try minimize it somewhat.  I wax and dye my traps to help keep them in good working order and not so much to minimize my scent.  I feel a good lure or bait will over ride caution and make them work my sets. 
 
  
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 04:03 PM
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Kneel pad, dipped gloves cotton backs, rubber boots in and out as quick I can be. 
 
  
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Law Dog]
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 03/26/21 04:25 PM
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Kneel pad, dipped gloves cotton backs, rubber boots in and out as quick I can be.  X2  
 
  
  I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.
  More trappin' and less yappin'.
 
 
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 04:28 PM
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How many guys use a ground cloth when setting for canines in order to cut down on human scent? How many use gloves for setting canine traps?
 
  I realize the human scent or as one of my old  instructors called it, you aura, has been discussed many times.
  Just curious as to what different trappers think and how they do things.
  I know lots of guys do not even place human scent on the radar, as another instructor of mine said. Others are a bit careful, but not much thought is given to being scent free or attempting to keep it down.
  Old school guys used to be paranoid about scent.
  Steeltraps posts got me to thinking about this the other evening when he mentioned he used a ground cloth.
  Thanks for any responses.
  Mac For me gloves & kneeling pad just for comfort.  Solidly bedded traps are the main thing in trapping  
 
  
TILL THAT DAY.....
  When we have to re-write a piece of history, we will no longer have to believe a lie
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 04:57 PM
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 That's an interesting topic and you will get an argument on either side, that will always be debated. The thing is , no one has ever set a coyote down , asked it a question and got an answer, so it's all speculation. . .
  That said :  I haven't noticed where coyotes shy away from human scent that much and the reason is I 'bait' all my areas where I trap predators. I do it in advance and try to keep it baited all season long, I say " try ", because that's not always possible, but then I have access to a lot of bait, and I mean by the truck and trailer full.
  Coyotes are quick to figure out 'what's going on' and they are also quick to take advantage of it. Coyotes (and foxes) are opportunist  and are  just as much a scavenger at times, as they are a predator. They know humans are bring in those scraps. How else would they get there ? Drop out of the sky ? 
  As far as knelling cloths, gloves etc. , I seldom use anything to knell on, unless it's wet and when it's sloppy wet, as it often is here, I use a truck mud flap, which works real well. I can't squat very long, like I once could.  Age has caught up with me and knelling is just easier. O'Gorman once said 'he didn't have scent pads on his knees' and that made a lot of sense to me, as I figured I didn't either. . . But, I hate mud and being wet and muddy.  Mark Zagger might like mud, but I'm not a fan , so in wet weather, I use a mud flap, not to keep a coyote from detecting me, just to keep me dry.
  Gloves, I use them and everything from cloth, to leather to those you find in most auto parts shops that fit real snug are my favorite. They protect my hands and that's the reason I use them. Footwear, usually a leather boot, unless again, it's wet and then a rubber boot. I don't like to have wet feet all day long.
  I don't take a lot of precautions to avoid 'leaving scent' , as coyotes know I've been there anyway. Most snares I set bare handed. I try to keep my hands clean of all bait odors, gas, etc. I don't smoke , so that isn't a problem and while tobacco users certainly have an odor to them, I'm not sure animals pay it  any mind. Maybe some do. I know a lot of smokers that catch a lot of fur. 
 
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 04:58 PM
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Cotton gloves and a kneeling pad is what I use. Been thinking about switching to knee pads. Muscle memory making a dirt hole,  in and out. 
 
  
NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 05:25 PM
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I concur with LT GREY's comments. 
Last edited by bctomcat; 09/20/21 04:16 PM.
 
 
  
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 05:52 PM
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With semi urban yotes around me they smell people all the time. Human scent is a matter of how strong it is. Human scent has been around many many meals for a yote. Garbage, house cat, gut piles etc.  It’s tolerated. Strong human scent is something to be worried about. My biggest catches are usually on a waterway or ditch that leads right into town. If I was trapping wilderness yotes I would probably be more careful. Most of the stuff I wear or use ( gloves , knee pad , boots etc) is for my comfort not the yotes nose. He knows your there just try and leave the least amount of scent you can and get out. That way the scent is weaker thus building his confidence. This is the reason I feel the third night is so good. Your scent has dissipated every day but the lure and bait still stink. 
 
  
  I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.
  More trappin' and less yappin'.
 
 
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
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 03/26/21 06:09 PM
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Kneel pad, dipped gloves cotton backs, rubber boots in and out as quick I can be.  Same  
 
  
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Mac]
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 03/26/21 11:39 PM
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My setup has evolved over time. Clean rubber gloves or clean leather gloves to set. Brown jersey gloves for bait, lure, and urine. Other gloves for driving atv or side by side. Now I wear nice knee pads to kneel down. Leather boots unless sloppy out then rubber. I am in and out so fast plus by now on autopilot that sometimes I don’t remember what I did.  Just kidding about not remembering. 
 
  
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Re: Canines, how careful do you need to be
[Re: Willy Firewood]
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 03/27/21 06:19 AM
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I really appreciate all the responses. Thanks to all that posted.
  Mac 
 
  
 
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