Re: Ar was the weapon !
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I don't believe it to be mental illness, I believe it's demonic in origin. Mental illness is just a term that was created to try to remove the stigma of crazy, insane, deranged or evil people. Changing the name did nothing to minimize the condition.
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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So mental illness isnt a real thing? I say it is real and not temporary. People suffering from it need removed from the free world and hospitalized. For their safety as well as ours. Why not just "Red flag" them? See where this can be used as an argument for that law?
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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13 pages and counting. I have always enjoyed the Tman'ing comments from the likes of "us." This forum isn't a monolithic (one) voice but rather mirrors our society which has many voices (opinions).
There was a time, not that long ago, but still beyond our grandparents era, when their where very few atheists in this country. Was everyone a believer? Probably not. Was everyone Christian? Mostly yes because our country was settled and forged and fought for by Christians. Was everyone righteous? Ah, no. That's not possible this side of glorification.
BUT, our nation did identify as a Godly nation, and whether the fear (obey) of the Lord, or just knowing your own personal thoughts and opinions were subservient to God's Plan, there was a national knowledge that we as people ARE NOT king of this hill.
But things all began to change quite remarkably in the mid 1800's. Whoever your descendants were then had MANY new ideas cast at them, and then like now, they would of had to choose which road to walk. Those changes were monumental of the world stage and they have effected this nation, as it has all the nations around the globe. Darwinism in the 19th century, along with Marxism built upon it (Darwinism without religion as a hindrance to utopian ideals - paradise on earth as it is in heaven), along with 2 WW's that decimated world's faith in just about anything, built upon the Aryan's belief that THEY were the superior race according to Darwin's thesis.
Human progressivism is a VERY interesting study. It is well documented that the plan now is aimed at trans-humanism and artificial intelligence as a means to solve the human condition which is.... sin. Our great-great grandparents lived, historians tell us, in a Christian culture, so they would have known full well what sin was and they would have full well known that God was creator of all and so their actions were subject to the judgment of God. Today, we are a post-Christian culture according to those who study such things. There isn't even debate about it anymore. We have arrived. We are a country who no longer answers to and identifies with a Holy God. Which matters very much. Because where we find identity is who we are. So our land is searching and grasping for every straw so that our people have the identity they seek. And the human heart ALWAYS seeks identity. It's crafted that way by God.
So some, who are empty vessels seeking living water, get another tattoo to show their identity. Some, who are in that same boat, with no divine power to seek hope in, do whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want. And some, sadly, seeking one last bit of identity, shoot other people.
350 million people. As those who believe in God (and know they answer to Him someday) die, and are more and more replaced by the godless, we as a nation will more and more and more struggle to cope with all the brokenness and ruined lives that progressivism has brought us. But, as a people, we cheer for more immorality and cheer for those who are immoral.
So what did we think was going to happen, y'all? Garbage in. Garbage out. It's all quite simply on display. May God help us return to the way it was always supposed to be. Instead of this path - which leads so many people - to the land of no-where.
Blessings, Mark
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Mark, those Christians who settled this country practiced slavery and promulgated genocide on an indigenous population.
No generation is free of transgressions.
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Taking God out of everything thing is the biggest problem. Teach the Ten Commandments in school. We need Love not hate. The devil is loving this. Some of you are against what I say, but do you have a better idea?
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Steven 49er, That isn't as accurate as your paint brush of generality. It was also Christians who started the abolition movement and in fact one of my relatives, Buffalo Bill's father, a Godly man, was killed as an abolitionist in the early 1800's. I would say no generation is righteous if that's what you mean. BUT, they did know who was Righteous. And we either say we answer to someone greater than ourselves or we say we don't. Today, our nation, and especially our young people and their young people, who we are raising up.... say we don't answer to anyone but me, me, me and me. Today, do what you wanna do. Do your own thang. See the difference?
Blessings, Mark
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Mark, I heard about a study on people having a biblical world view. I think only 11%, don't quote me on this, of church goers had a biblical world view. Was amazing but sad. As for the shooter, someone should have loved him as a child.
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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So mental illness isnt a real thing? I say it is real and not temporary. People suffering from it need removed from the free world and hospitalized. For their safety as well as ours. Oh it's real. My point is that most of these perps aren't the average Joe going through a bout of depression but instead products of homes and backgrounds that warped them beyond repair from the get.
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Mark, I agree with you 100 percent. Thanks
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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J Staton, I recently did, as part of my final studies, a project thesis on Christianity in Australia and New Zealand (a portion of Oceania) and you are correct. They, like America, suffer from progressivism being elevated ABOVE the faith. When that happens... God Spouse Children Community Greater world community Which is the biblical order of things, gets turned upside down and sideways.
All things become a human endeavor, and a human project, and prayer is thrown out, and God is cast aside for "rights" and "firepower" and who knows what so that...
The Christian believer looks and acts just like the unbeliever. And that is a real dilemma.
Bottom line, is most of us are fine people, it's just we weren't taught well by our folks, who were not taught well by their folks who were not taught well by their folks BECAUSE progressivism built on the backs of Enlightenment which was built on the back of the Renaissance has now been going on for hundreds of years. And ALL OF IT is forging nations, and cultures, and the people in those cultures.
Ya know, it's always been there though. Revelation. For us. Creation. Christ's 1st Coming. Scripture. We either believe in it or we don't. No one signing anyone up. The Truth stands and always will until Jesus returns to claim what is His.
We pray for a healing in this land, and on this earth, and do the best we can, where we are, with what we have. Blessings, Mark
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Can a person endorse slavery and know who is righteous? Serious question, I don't see any room in the New Testament for it. Maybe I'm wrong.
Genocide?
You are correct, no generation is righteous.
I don't pretend to know the answer to what is ailing our country. In my mind, it's most likely relative peace and prosperity over too long of a period.
Anyhow, our thoughts and prayers go out to this Texas community.
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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P.S. I have a brother who is a diagnosed paranoid/schizophrenic. I've witnessed it up close and personal for decades. I don't believe it to be mental illness, I believe it's demonic in origin. Posco, why dont you get together with your preacher, or someone who routinely does exorcisms, and pray away his mental illness? Unless of course you think your god wants some people to be possessed or you think the demons are stronger than your god? Posco, the quote Yukon John posted has a politician complaining about taking religion out of school.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Steven, In the 14-15-16-17-1800's, most, not all Christian church's taught that dark skin was the mark of Ham (son of Noah) and were marked so that white Christians would know they are supposed to be enslaved. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Go see a Pentecostal preacher or a Catholic priest. They can at least put you in touch with an authority on the subject.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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Grade school kids trapped in a classroom? Kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. Whether it's an AR. 22. Shotgun high powered air rifle or machete or hammer. just shut up
"Nothing I like to do pays well." True Grit
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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The real thing that matters is the mass killer has been identified as MS13 gang member
TILL THAT DAY.....
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Re: Ar was the weapon !
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The real thing that matters is the mass killer has been identified as MS13 gang member Having grown up amongst crooked officials, this sounds more and more like a cartel hit.
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