Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
[Re: Finster]
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07/28/22 09:26 AM
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Global warming scam artists use local weather, and by local I mean the weather on our little patches of dirt on which human live. More severe storms ect.
We can and do have an impact on local weather and it can be seen in history from ancient civilizations such as the maya. The deforestation of what's now jungle again is highly believed to be their demise, yet they had no overall impact of world climate.
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/06oct_maya/#:~:text=A major drought occurred about the time the,for growing corn to feed their burgeoning population.
Link failed, but if interested you can Google it. They caused their own drought.
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
[Re: Finster]
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07/28/22 09:56 AM
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I would bet that 90% of us on this forum have a carbon footprint much smaller than those that are proponents of global warming
There is nothing more sustainable than fending for yourself. Growing and killing your own food and trapping fur.
They shove the agenda of electric vehicles, "renewable" energy etc etc down your throat but in reality we know that this is all political and driven by money and greed
Let them continue to tell you how you should live while they take 15 minute plane rides across town because they don't want to sit in traffic.......lol
Gotta live up to the nickname...
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
[Re: Finster]
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To me it is surprising that so many fail to grasp the basic physics at play. Greenhouse gases including carbon dioxide, methane, etc are exponentially being released into the atmosphere. They act like a heat trapping blanket. Walk into a greenhouse....HEY, any warmer in there? Of course.
As far as the climate has always been changing talk...of course it has. Who says it hasn't? We've been way hotter and way colder many times over in the history of our planet. The difference now is the speed at which it is happening.
In the scientific community there is consensus that man's activities are causing this hyper speed change in the climate warming up. Anybody who says that there is not worldwide scientific consensus on this doesn't know what they're talking about. End of story.
I have looked into of a few of the fringe scientists claims refuting climate change by man and find that they are being financed that by the fossil fuel industry. How does their credibility look to you now?
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
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07/28/22 10:46 AM
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What ever happened to acid rain? It was turning all the lakes acid, then somebody figured out scrubbers on the coal stopped acid rain, but some claim many of those acid lakes were already acid before white man came here due to runoff. We also heard a lot about the earth cooling off back in the 60's and 70's. Then we went thru the hole in the ozone phase and now here we are.
I remember a study done on the NATO training ranges of Europe during my time there, I was stationed at Graf, in the late 80s. The premise was that acid rain was killing the conifer forests of Germany and constant use by military heavy vehicles on the ranges were adding insult to injury. The findings were that the constant crushing and stirring of dust from the mostly limestone aggregate tank trails was spreading and settling on the forests was countering any acid rain effect.
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
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07/28/22 10:50 AM
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In the scientific community there is consensus that man's activities are causing this hyper speed change in the climate warming up. Anybody who says that there is not worldwide scientific consensus on this doesn't know what they're talking about. End of story.
I have looked into of a few of the fringe scientists claims refuting climate change by man and find that they are being financed that by the fossil fuel industry. How does their credibility look to you now?
NO, THERE IS NOT A CONSENSUS! That's the point! Do you ever bother to research anything or do you just believe what you are told? I even posted an article about it on the bottom of the last page. Did you bother to read it, much less have to bother to click a link?
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
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07/28/22 10:55 AM
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To me it is surprising that so many fail to grasp the basic physics at play. Greenhouse gases including carbon dioxide, methane, etc are exponentially being released into the atmosphere. They act like a heat trapping blanket. Walk into a greenhouse....HEY, any warmer in there? Of course.
As far as the climate has always been changing talk...of course it has. Who says it hasn't? We've been way hotter and way colder many times over in the history of our planet. The difference now is the speed at which it is happening.
In the scientific community there is consensus that man's activities are causing this hyper speed change in the climate warming up. Anybody who says that there is not worldwide scientific consensus on this doesn't know what they're talking about. End of story.
I have looked into of a few of the fringe scientists claims refuting climate change by man and find that they are being financed that by the fossil fuel industry. How does their credibility look to you now? Actually got the last several year we have been cooling and the ice caps have been expanding but your free to believe what you chose.
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
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07/28/22 11:08 AM
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To me it is surprising that so many fail to grasp the basic physics at play. Greenhouse gases including carbon dioxide, methane, etc are exponentially being released into the atmosphere. They act like a heat trapping blanket. Walk into a greenhouse....HEY, any warmer in there? Of course.
As far as the climate has always been changing talk...of course it has. Who says it hasn't? We've been way hotter and way colder many times over in the history of our planet. The difference now is the speed at which it is happening.
In the scientific community there is consensus that man's activities are causing this hyper speed change in the climate warming up. Anybody who says that there is not worldwide scientific consensus on this doesn't know what they're talking about. End of story.
I have looked into of a few of the fringe scientists claims refuting climate change by man and find that they are being financed that by the fossil fuel industry. How does their credibility look to you now? Very well said. thank you. just
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
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To me it is surprising that so many fail to grasp the basic physics at play. Greenhouse gases including carbon dioxide, methane, etc are exponentially being released into the atmosphere. They act like a heat trapping blanket. Walk into a greenhouse....HEY, any warmer in there? Of course.
As far as the climate has always been changing talk...of course it has. Who says it hasn't? We've been way hotter and way colder many times over in the history of our planet. The difference now is the speed at which it is happening.
In the scientific community there is consensus that man's activities are causing this hyper speed change in the climate warming up. Anybody who says that there is not worldwide scientific consensus on this doesn't know what they're talking about. End of story.
I have looked into of a few of the fringe scientists claims refuting climate change by man and find that they are being financed that by the fossil fuel industry. How does their credibility look to you now? Actually got the last several year we have been cooling and the ice caps have been expanding but your free to believe what you chose. Not at all true. just
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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07/28/22 11:16 AM
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To me it is surprising that so many fail to grasp the basic physics at play. Greenhouse gases including carbon dioxide, methane, etc are exponentially being released into the atmosphere. They act like a heat trapping blanket. Walk into a greenhouse....HEY, any warmer in there? Of course.
As far as the climate has always been changing talk...of course it has. Who says it hasn't? We've been way hotter and way colder many times over in the history of our planet. The difference now is the speed at which it is happening.
In the scientific community there is consensus that man's activities are causing this hyper speed change in the climate warming up. Anybody who says that there is not worldwide scientific consensus on this doesn't know what they're talking about. End of story.
I have looked into of a few of the fringe scientists claims refuting climate change by man and find that they are being financed that by the fossil fuel industry. How does their credibility look to you now? And you have a PhD in what? Written how many peer reviewed research papers? Run how many double blind field experiments? Or are you just doing as the rest of us and coming to conclusions based upon what the mass media are saying? I've seen enough to definitively say the following. Global Warming, inconclusive. Man Made, inconclusive. Politically Motivated, absolutely. Proposed Responses, detrimental.
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
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07/28/22 11:18 AM
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Who needs a scientist to decide ? Common sense is sufficient . Cars ,pavement ,buildings ,chem fallow ,roads ,roofs and on and on . 2+ 2 is 5 Chimate change is REAL That's the problem right there , 2+2 is 4 in my book You climo worshipers make it up as you go
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
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07/28/22 01:11 PM
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Here is something for you to think about. In 2010 there were an estimated 1 billion cars operating in the world. According to Motor verso the exhaust from those billion cars is between 600 and 1800*F. Depending on operating time.
Thats not including diesel or coal fired power plants along with home and buisness heating. that doesn't include the result of adding CO2 to the air. To think WE don't make a difference is just plain foolish. just
To me it is surprising that so many fail to grasp the basic physics at play. Greenhouse gases including carbon dioxide, methane, etc are exponentially being released into the atmosphere. They act like a heat trapping blanket. Walk into a greenhouse....HEY, any warmer in there? Of course.
As far as the climate has always been changing talk...of course it has. Who says it hasn't? We've been way hotter and way colder many times over in the history of our planet. The difference now is the speed at which it is happening.
In the scientific community there is consensus that man's activities are causing this hyper speed change in the climate warming up. Anybody who says that there is not worldwide scientific consensus on this doesn't know what they're talking about. End of story.
I have looked into of a few of the fringe scientists claims refuting climate change by man and find that they are being financed that by the fossil fuel industry. How does their credibility look to you now? Well said. Many are turning it into a scam, but I believe the man made impacts on the climate are real. The truth is likely SOMEWHERE in the middle of the yay and nay sayers. Happy trapping! ScottW
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Re: Is the Global Warming Crusade a Scam?
[Re: Finster]
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07/28/22 08:08 PM
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I stand by my earlier post. Don't need a phD to understand it's warm inside a greenhouse and cooler outside of it.
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