209 primers
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Last year about this time posted about looking for 209 shotgun primers. I found enough for that project at the time but they were over priced of course. I've been watching and keeping my eyes open for primers at a half way decent price. The other day my son sent me FB post for a mom & pop reloading shop 20 mile south of town. Add said just got a shipment of supplies including 209 primers. What's odd is that I had no idea this shop was even in existence. But anyway I called and talked to the owner. Today I stopped in and picked up couple 100 of 209 primers. They are a brand I never heard of, actually made in France. Guy said shouldn't be any big difference between these and the Winchester I usually use. At $6.50 for 100 I figured give them a try. Anyone else seen or use these? Mac
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Re: 209 primers
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I just bought that brand too.
First 209 pruners I've seen in 3 years around me.
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Re: 209 primers
[Re: Macthediver]
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08/08/22 04:44 PM
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They're fairly common. The dimensions are a bit different from the Winchester 209's and others so you might notice either loose or tight fits. Recheck your loads with this primer. May need to alter your charge slightly depending on the wad & powder Here's a table to compare dimensions
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Re: 209 primers
[Re: Macthediver]
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Cheddite are getting more common now listed in some loads
ballistic products sells them and their clear hulls and has some data for the pre primed hulls they sell
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Re: 209 primers
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08/08/22 08:26 PM
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Made in France? They will probably never fire and only surrender.
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Re: 209 primers
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08/08/22 08:38 PM
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Made in France? They will probably never fire and only surrender. LMAO At least they aren't made in China!! Or Mexico... Or dare I say???? Russia. I wonder if they are available in Canada??? Maybe popular in Quebec? Mac
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Re: 209 primers
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08/08/22 08:40 PM
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Im interested in what you think of them after you load a few
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Re: 209 primers
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my last 6 rounds of skeet were 24,25,24,25,25,22 with reloads I used Cheddite primers. Seem to work just fine Where did you find load data for them or are you just swapping with what you usually use? I usually loaded most my stuff using Winchester primers. I've done a little reading and of course like everything. Got guys saying just load them like the Winchester and guys saying don't do it. Mac
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Re: 209 primers
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08/09/22 08:35 AM
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Do not directly replace them for winchesters, they are not the same. Close(ish), but not the same.
I have shot thousands of cheddite primers and hulls from negative temps in a duck swamp to 98 degrees trap shooting. You probably have too without knowing it. Many brands of factory ammo we are accustomed to shooting are cheddite hulls and primers
All of my load development is with new cheddite hulls and primers
They are fantastic and I can confidently say I have never had a failure to fire with them. Now fiocchi on the other hand.....
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Re: 209 primers
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08/09/22 02:42 PM
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Cheddit will work just fine. Wolf primers are good also. Load it and it will go boom. Simple as that. Nice find. Enjoy. Sarge
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Re: 209 primers
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Has this brand of 209's been ok for inline muzzelloaders for anyone? Will go boom as well. Sarge
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Re: 209 primers
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08/09/22 02:52 PM
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[quote=patrapperbuster]Has this brand of 209's been ok for inline muzzelloaders for anyone?[/quote
The guy at the shop I got them from said he actually sells more 209s to the muzzle loader folks than shot shell reloader. I'm told these primers are considered hotter than then Winchester 209. How that work in muzzle loading I have no idea. But like shot shells would think it depends on how you loaded it I'm also told this brand primer is smidge bigger. Again not sure what the tolerance is for muzzle loader. Might stick more or be looser???
But as Sarge said ..Will go boom!
Mac
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Re: 209 primers
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08/09/22 02:55 PM
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Has this brand of 209's been ok for inline muzzelloaders for anyone? haven't tried this one but haven't tried one yet that didn't work , some might be hotter than needed back down on the charge and work up noble sport , win , rem , cci , fed , the concern is to hot a primer subtracts from the accuracy by changing the burn of your load but especially in 209 buckhorn and subs I am not real sure it is that much of an issue boom and slightly inaccurate is better than no boom most guns are rated for 120gr some 150gr of powder and there is seldom any need to exceed 90-100 gr of powder make sure your projectile is down firm on your powder and 90 is 75% of a 120gr max load so that is a decent reduction start low and work up in anything muzzle loader a Max load is almost never the most accurate
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