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Re: Coyote urine? [Re: danny clifton] #7671214
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Danny Thats sounds good! I was using Lava Rocks. Someone on here said = charcoal. I tried it. Caught 3 coyotes. But you cant soak it long in urine. Or charcoal comes a part. But still. These are good tips.

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7671246
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So maybe I missed this in another conversation somewhere but are you saying that the lava rocks hold urine?

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: Longbeard12] #7671254
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Originally Posted by Longbeard12
So maybe I missed this in another conversation somewhere but are you saying that the lava rocks hold urine?

Yes. Got my first Black Lava Rocks when I went to take lessons from James Lucero. Started using them. Just soak in jar with coyote urine. Take then out with tongs. Put them where you want them. Charcoal works. Similar. BUT you soak it to long. It gets soft. Falls apart. Hard to get out with tongs.

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7671261
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Now it's coming together!! I wondered why you use lava rocks!! Great information!! Toothpicks is definitely more available to me than lava rocks but still great information!! Now I have a reason to go to Hawaii!! Haha!! Great information!!

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: Longbeard12] #7671262
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You can get like. 100 = 1 to 2 inch around Black Lava Rock off ebay for like 30 dollars plus shipping from Some guy in Texas

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7671281
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Thanks Steeltraps, I will look into this.

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7671339
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Antonito CO and Des Moines NM are where most of the Lava rock is quarryed

Last edited by danny clifton; 09/14/22 02:55 PM.

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Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7671728
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danny clifton, thanks for that bit of information. Never in a million years would I have thought lava rock is quarried in those 2 locations. Thanks

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7671730
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So back to the coal question, I am making the assumption that you guys who tried the coal are using soft coal and not hard coal? Living in coal country I could buy tons of it and if it held urine and I could keep it together by not letting it soak as long but still be effective I would definitely give it a try.

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7671783
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Does lump charcoal disintegrate? Or are you guys trying briquettes?

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7671820
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You folks are making this too difficult IMO. If you feel the need to go to all this effort to use urine then make it simple or as complicated as you want. I never saw the need personally but here is a thought for you.

Go to the Dollar store and buy some cheap sponges. Large enough you can cut them into the size pieces that you want. Put them in a jar of the urine of your choice.

The sponge will hold the max amount of urine that it can for its size. Keep the pre -cut pieces in the container until you need them. Or / Once all the sponge pieces have absorbed all the liquid pour off any excess back into a bottle. If you want to further retard the evaporation in hot temps you can blend some glycerine with the urine.

If you want black pieces of sponge that is easy enough. Get some black Rit dye from the grocery store and soak the new cut dry sponge pieces in the dye. Once saturated and dyed to your liking squeeze out the excess water/dye and let them air dry completely.

Now they are back to being a dry "black"sponge. Put back into your urine soak container and soak. Start the re hydration process once again.

Some sponges are very durable and can be staked down easily where you want them to be placed. Wood skewers you can buy at Walmart or any Craft store will serve the purpose. Or just find some selected sticks at the trap set site to do the job to pin the sponge down. Long nails can be used also but I don't like to use such things much.

Just some food for thought.

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: danny clifton] #7671863
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If you want that urine smell to stick around awhile put tooth picks in a canning jar sold for jelly. Stand them up in it. Fill it with coyote pee. Put the lid on. After they soak it all up fill it back up about halfway. I tried using dowel rods about the size of a pencil cut to fit in a quart jar. Coyotes will carry them off if they miss the pan. Dont stick around to long. A tooth pick in a grass clump keeps them sniffing if you stick it about half way in the ground. Rain wont kill the smell.



Good pointer or tip.

Mac



Re: Coyote urine? [Re: Bob Jameson] #7671923
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Bob. You can get. Or used to could get a = Dirt Brown. Or grass green. I have used both in the past. Good tip. Why did I quit ? Coons and other critters totes them off. But still. A good tip

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7672369
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FWIW I dont use toothpicks anymore either. just give a shot in the backing whatever the backing is. When it rains i do what the coyotes do. Re pee on everything


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Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7672494
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Its all great info!! Regardless if your using lava rocks, coal,sponges,toothpicks, or grass clumps its all great information and I enjoy you guys sharing your thoughts with us! I see advantages and disadvantages with using all but after you guys sharing your thoughts it at least gives us rookies something to think about. Coal is king here in central PA, but I really like Bobs thoughts on using a sponge!! Keep it simple! However steeltraps brings up interesting point on thieves! I don't know what I will do but I think these conversations give me something to think about! Thanks for all the input!!

Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7672556
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When it quits raining, coyotes really do like to run around and pee on everything


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Re: Coyote urine? [Re: steeltraps] #7672590
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All predators in my experience instinctively know when they need to refresh their territories with urine and feces as they see fit.

Like Danny, I find areas that smell of coyote and fox urine as I move thru certain areas with the thermals carrying the urine scent to me. This is more noticable after heavy rains and storm fronts.

Particulary when I run some lines with an quad due to soft ground and not wanting to rut up field roads and field edges. It just catches your attention right away if you know what you are smelling.

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If you want that urine smell to stick around awhile put tooth picks in a canning jar sold for jelly. Stand them up in it. Fill it with coyote pee. Put the lid on. After they soak it all up fill it back up about halfway. I tried using dowel rods about the size of a pencil cut to fit in a quart jar. Coyotes will carry them off if they miss the pan. Dont stick around to long. A tooth pick in a grass clump keeps them sniffing if you stick it about half way in the ground. Rain wont kill the smell.



I have never tried that but i like it. Am going to try it this season.
As far as squirt type bottles i wish they would make some with a longer spout for more convenient flipping

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