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Re: Alcohol [Re: elsmasho82] #8388747
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
Originally Posted by danny clifton
We already have laws against drunk driving, beating your kids or wife, bar fights, etc. What else do you want? Ten people read the bible and get ten different opinions. Anybody think they are always right?



You’re starting to grow on me!


you didn't already think the world of Danny? I thought everyone did!!

Re: Alcohol [Re: Husky] #8388749
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He was grumpy at me one too many times at first!!!

Re: Alcohol [Re: Husky] #8388752
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It does say grumpy old man under my name. I do my best to keep it at a dull roar.


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Re: Alcohol [Re: elsmasho82] #8388766
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Originally Posted by elsmasho82
He was grumpy at me one too many times at first!!!



I still have him on blocked from the old days…..
But I do open it up to read….now…


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Re: Alcohol [Re: bowhunter27295] #8388803
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Let's consider wine/beer/liquor from a non religious point of view. No Bible. No Jesus.

What is the purpose of alcohol in this context?


How about enjoyment, does that qualify as an acceptable purpose? If not, why would anyone drink anything other than water?

Re: Alcohol [Re: bowhunter27295] #8388810
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Let's consider wine/beer/liquor from a non religious point of view. No Bible. No Jesus.

What is the purpose of alcohol in this context?

Alcohol can be very relaxing after a stressful day.Good for your health.Stress kills.Ask any doctor.


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Re: Alcohol [Re: Husky] #8388812
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I am getting relaxed….


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Re: Alcohol [Re: Husky] #8388824
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Somewhere groups always seem to get whacky in their reasoning.
Reason in a warped thought process is just that, "warped".
Won't you all agree that hard work is a honorable trait. So if a guy makes a living moving refrigerators that is honorable ? Then stealing refrigerators is also an honorable living because it is hard work ?

Some want to go from their abstinence and put it on you by outlawing it. Or they could have other sinister notions and just have prohibition for the taxes. They argue alcohol kills and should be outlawed, but many have the same thoughts on guns. They want to shift the personal responsibility over to a society conscience for which there is none, it ultimately falls on the individuals choice and their conscience.

The nut groups also want to tie Jesus and John the Baptist to the Essenes that remained celibate, didn't partake of alcohol or meat. They kill two birds there. Jesus didn't make wine nor would he have done the miracle of feeding the fish.

There is such a thing as a dry drunk. They may have never tasted alcohol and yet have flaws that are worse than alcohol. The alcohol camouflages those flaws sometimes and the blame is shifted to alcohol.

Of course the social influence with fertility and romance has to be accounted for with mandrakes and alcohol all of which there is nothing new under the sun.

Re: Alcohol [Re: Husky] #8388827
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According to the American Medical Association, a glass of wine, a beer, or a shot of 'spirits' every day is recommended.

Sadly, I fail to keep up with that practice.

A little Scotch Whisky at bed time helps me go to sleep. So there is that. grin


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Re: Alcohol [Re: Vinke] #8388830
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Originally Posted by Vinke
I am getting relaxed….

Me too. grin


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Re: Alcohol [Re: upstateNY] #8388836
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Let's consider wine/beer/liquor from a non religious point of view. No Bible. No Jesus.

What is the purpose of alcohol in this context?

Alcohol can be very relaxing after a stressful day.Good for your health.Stress kills.Ask any doctor.


Alcohol may make you feel better but it is NOT good for your health. I know of no doctor who recommends alcohol consumption to lower stress levels.


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You need to meet a doctor in Iowa then.

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Originally Posted by chas3457
According to the American Medical Association, a glass of wine, a beer, or a shot of 'spirits' every day is recommended.

Sadly, I fail to keep up with that practice.

A little Scotch Whisky at bed time helps me go to sleep. So there is that. grin


Charlie


The following statement is attributable to:
Bruce A. Scott, M.D.
President, American Medical Association

“The American Medical Association applauds the Surgeon General’s work to make completely clear the link between alcohol consumption and increased cancer risk. For years, the AMA has said that alcohol consumption at any level, not just heavy alcohol use or addictive alcohol use, is a modifiable risk factor for cancer. And yet, despite decades of compelling evidence of this connection, too many in the public remain unaware of alcohol’s risk. Today’s advisory, coupled with a push to update the Surgeon General’s health warning label on alcoholic beverages, will bolster awareness, improve health, and save lives.”


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Re: Alcohol [Re: Husky] #8388841
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I know a lot of people want to drink. That's fine. We are all adults and make our own choices.

Just make accurate statements when it comes to alcohol. Drink all you want when you want.


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Re: Alcohol [Re: bowhunter27295] #8388844
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I know a lot of people want to drink. That's fine. We are all adults and make our own choices.

Just make accurate statements when it comes to alcohol. Drink all you want when you want.



I’ll be the first to say that I hate a hangover with a passion. I limit and go to bed when I feel I’ve had enough. It DOES cloud the mind. And that makes saying “enough” difficult. I’m happy to say that I wake up without a pounding headache from too much beer 99 percent of the time.
You are right, we are all responsible for our actions.

Re: Alcohol [Re: bowhunter27295] #8388846
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Originally Posted by chas3457
According to the American Medical Association, a glass of wine, a beer, or a shot of 'spirits' every day is recommended.

Sadly, I fail to keep up with that practice.

A little Scotch Whisky at bed time helps me go to sleep. So there is that. grin


Charlie


The following statement is attributable to:
Bruce A. Scott, M.D.
President, American Medical Association

“The American Medical Association applauds the Surgeon General’s work to make completely clear the link between alcohol consumption and increased cancer risk. For years, the AMA has said that alcohol consumption at any level, not just heavy alcohol use or addictive alcohol use, is a modifiable risk factor for cancer. And yet, despite decades of compelling evidence of this connection, too many in the public remain unaware of alcohol’s risk. Today’s advisory, coupled with a push to update the Surgeon General’s health warning label on alcoholic beverages, will bolster awareness, improve health, and save lives.”

Tomorrow it's a bloody Mary, a beer, and a cigar. Life is sweet.

Re: Alcohol [Re: Husky] #8388850
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WI Outdoors you know I’ve never had one in my life?? I see they make extravagant ones with pickles and Cornish Hens and boiled eggs tucked in!

Re: Alcohol [Re: Husky] #8388853
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In the Roman times they decreed that the soldiers should drink 3L of wine a day.. I don't think they're wine was as potent as today's wines or Rome wouldn't of lasted as long as it did. It is why Vinis venifera is so widely distributed across Europe as the Roman empire expanded and the plant was easy to grow from cuttings.

I don't drink a lot. A glass of wine most nights. Mainly just so I don't destroy a jug of tea or milk in one day. Beer is rare for me because I'm fairly sensitive to bitterness . I'll get a yenling or a Guinness just to have something to nurse on while waiting around at the golf course.

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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Let's consider wine/beer/liquor from a non religious point of view. No Bible. No Jesus.

What is the purpose of alcohol in this context?


How about enjoyment, does that qualify as an acceptable purpose? If not, why would anyone drink anything other than water?


It is definitely an acceptable preference.

To me, beer tastes like reheated corn on the cob.

Wine tastes like cough syrup.

Liquor just burns.

I know, I know, I haven't had any good "whatever". FOR ME AS MY PREFERENCE, I don't like the taste of any of it and I have tried too many to count. I was never an alcoholic, but I did drink a lot on the weekends in the military, even though I never liked the taste. Got out and just did not see the use. Chose not to drink anymore. Started seeing a correlation between those that did not drink and those in great health. I mean athletic health, not just good blood pressure and low cholesterol.

Again, I don't see the need for alcohol but some people need it and want it. So be it. Just don't tell me alcohol can be good for you. I am being honest. I hope everyone else can be.

AGAIN, if you like the taste of it, drink up. Your choice and preference. There ya go.

If you choose not to drink, you will be healthier.


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