https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...tionwide-voter-roll-investigation-ahead/

Hard to tell if Republican leadership is really this dense.......or if there is a reason they won't tackle problem head on. At any rate, if they want to eliminate about 99% of the election fraud all they need to do is implement an outright ban on vote by mail for federal elections. Require voters to show up in person with valid photo ID, then mark up a pre-printed paper ballot with serial number on it. Do that and all the rest of the nonsense goes away. Vote by mail had to have been designed with election fraud in mind. None of the stuff they are looking at would matter if not for vote by mail.

All the fake voter registrations, all the dead people voting, all the illegals voting, all the ballot harvesting, all the problems with late vote counting......none of it matters once you eliminate vote by mail.

Pretty simple, they don’t wanna fix it completely, they might need it too.

Looks like a huge step in the right direction to me....

Baby steps.......like hunting buffalo with a BB gun.

Both sides are concerned about what happened in the past Turn the page focus on tomorrow

Every ballot has to have a name that is on the registered voter rolls. Doesn't matter if its mail in, dropped in a box, or shows up in a white van at 2:30 am...

HayDay, I do agree with what you stated but mail in is just one part of the problem...

Both thumb prints required on every ballot, like, a lot of other countries require, would make a difference too. Anyone missing thumbs could get a waiver.

Keith

After what they did to Trump in 2020......when at midnight on election night he was up by 2M votes in the 6 remaining states to be called. He went on to lose by a combined 200,000 votes in all 6 states combined, and it didn't matter how much he was ahead, the lead was made up and overcome. After that, I began taking a much closer look at every allegation of election fraud and almost 100% of the time it had something to do with vote by mail ballots. There is zero, zip, nada election security with mail in ballots. Once a ballot goes out, all they know is it came back. They don't even know if the name they sent a ballot to is even a real person, let alone who marked it up and returned it. Only security at all is the signature and those are routinely ignored. In AZ 2022, the counted ballots returned with no signature. In my opinion what happened in AZ 2022 was as blatant as it gets.

So since there is no security, there is no validity to it. CA does not run an election. They run a pre-ordained outcome election event. In two CA US House districts in 2024 they were still finding and counting ballots for 4 weeks after election was over......both Republican held house seats. Once the Dem pulled ahead, they quit counting and called it........flipped two seats doing so. No way to run an election. 100% vote by mail with ballot harvesting allowed. AZ, NV and CO about as bad.

Purging fake voters is nibbling around the edge of the cracker. They can be replaced. Almost all the stunts they pull get cancelled out when a live person has to show up to a polling place with valid ID.

A better solution to vote by mail is early voting. Our county allows you to walk in to court house as much as 2 weeks or so........and you can vote there same as you would in polling place on election day. Same secure process.

This is going to upset you folks but I don’t care.

What about people away from home on Election Day - say the thousands of service men and women stationed overseas. What about folks in hospitals and rehab centers that aren’t physically able to get to the polls on Election Day. Even with early in person voting, those 2 groups of legitimate, eligible voters can’t vote. How is that fair.

Let the rebuttal begin,

There are people who are eligible for mail in ballet's and you just described them

What else you got Miss high and mighty

They're called absentee ballots, they're registered to the voter and legit...it's the non legit mail ins that's a problem....

I didn’t realize you considered absentee ballots different than mail in ballots. After all, absentee ballots are “mailed in”. Maybe the OP should have specified.

I love starting the weekend off with a good “fight”. LOL

There is already a process in place for that and it ain't mass mailing of blank ballots. Varies by state but it basically boils down to the voter upon realizing that they will be unable to go to the polls can contact their county voter registar to obtain an absentee ballot. Varies by state but this often includes and affadavit affirming the absence signed or affirmed by the voter. There will be a clearly posted deadline for this to happen. Upon receiving the ballot the voter will fill it out and return it to the registar. This will inculde an affadavit affirmed by the voter that he/she was inded the eligible voter that voted and that all laws were followed. There will be a deadline for the ballot to be returned.

Rather simple and spelled out by law.

Seems you got knocked out when they rang the bell.

BTW these absentee ballots often have multiple verification steps. Affadavits being one, home address and DL# being another and finally a signature match as the voter's signature should be on file.

However, the fly in the ointment is that due to the sanctity of the ballot box none of these verifying IDs can appear of the ballot itself and are on the envelope containing the ballot.

In practice, and the weak point, there must be a signature/ID match made and confirmed before the envelope containing the ballot is even accepted and opened because once the the ballot enters the count there are no ways to determine wheter a ballot was cast legitimately by a valid voter.

By flooding the zone with mail in ballots, which technically operate similar to absentee, the time and ability to perform due diligence on each and every signature goes out the window. This has led to recruitment of mass numbers of poorly trained and in many times partisan ballot handlers in the tally process.

Yes, the legit absentee ballots are not the issue, as long as they are legit. But for such a small group, may not matter or affect outcome.

People who have looked at voter rolls have found thousands and thousand of people registered at empty lots, McDonalds, Walmart, 15th floor of a 10 story building, etc. Yet ballots sent to them that cannot be delivered as there is no mailbox to deliver to.......so end up back at post office in a dead letter sack, which then goes missing........and then they vote. Should come as no surprise, but most of this takes place in the six swing states. In that documentary 2,000 mules, where did they get all those ballots?

None of that possible if that person who doesn't exist has to show up in person with valid ID to vote.

IMO, but mail in ballots should be illegal, period. Get your tail up and go to the polls. If you're too sorry lazy to do that, then you got no business deciding for the rest of us that do care enough to vote.

Absentee absolutely should remain with a strong caveat that the absence is legitimate and of a serious nature. Caught lying then ten years, period.

If need be make election day a state/national holiday. If need be make every elementery school a polling place.

Exactly why mail in should be illegal. There needs to some flag in the system that requires a verified voter initiating every ballot with solid chain of custody from A to Z.

Absentee ballots have been legal American law for years. I figured you would have known that, Nancy.

That's a whole different subject than what is trying to be pushed the past four years to get illegal aliens , deceased , and others not qualified to cast illegal votes to push aside Americans who want constitutional law to be adhered to.

There are many active military , and others who qualify, that sent in Absentee ballots across the state, every year. As a judge appointed for election days, I have seen this first hand. It is years old and works well.

Are people still buying into the illusion they are not both owned by the same interests and the system is designed to make you believe you have a voice and say in the government?


Just look at the pro gun Republicans. They only put pro gun stuff forward when they know it won't pass or they chose not to push it. when they know it won't pass the push it so they can say we'll we third but those dems stoped us. Maybe next time we can get it.

If you don't think you have a say in the system you get revolt and revolution. To avoid this they play the game we are watching.

Yes they are.

lol

I am very much aware of absentee ballots. I’ve voted that way for the past eleven (11) years.

So you were just trolling? lol

Just so everyone understands difference between vote by mail and absentee voting. States like CA have universal vote by mail. They put a live ballot in US mail to each and every voter they have registered in the system if you asked for it or not. That means 100% ballot float in the public domain. Legal votes, illegal voters, real person or not, dead or alive......if they are registered, they are sent a ballot. If person moved.........or is no longer around or alive.......ballot can't be delivered, it goes into a black hole. College dorms and apartments alone get thousands of ballots for which there no longer remains a voter to receive them. They also allow ballot harvesting. In 2020, guy pulled into a C-Store and went inside.........others in parking lot noticed his entire back seat was piled full to the windows with vote by mail ballots. Thousands of them. Called the cops.......who investigated and concluded he was doing nothing wrong and sent him on his way. He had harvested ballots and that was legal in CA. So no chain of custody......and no telling what he did with them when he left. And that was just one guy on one day.

There was also the issue in CA where a bunch of illegals were sent jury duty notices..........to which they responded they did not have to appear as they were NOT US citizens. So where did jury pool names come from? Voter rolls.

Not all states have universal vote by mail like that, but almost all of them allow voters to request a vote by mail ballot. Not absentee........vote by mail. A lot of people like it cause it's easy.......and the election fraud guys bank on a lot of people going along with the scam cause some voters like it cause it's easy. That opens the door to allow them to pull all kinds of stunts in the shadows and away from scrutiny.

Vote by mail........no way to run an election......at least a free, fair and honest one.

I would prefer we only let tax paying landowners vote. And only after they pass a civics test.

In person.

Wow.!!!! Why not go one step further and say “ only male tax paying landowners”. That would keep a lot of the unworthy people from voting. Just like in the “good old days”!!

I think we may need to look into restrictions on emotionally challenged folks that read stuff not actually written.

You talking about me???

You guys need to watch some old Carlin

In principle, those with skin in the game. I would at one time agreed, however we all got skin in the game when you realize that the landowners have rigged the game to win all the land and none of the taxes.

I would argue anyone subject to taxes get to vote, right down to sales taxes, adminstractive fees, court costs, licensures, state, city, and occupation taxes, gas and oil taxes.

I would further argue that those least impacted by taxes as a percentage of personal wealth might not need to be voting. Just saying, afterall don't they get "extra" votes with the PACs.

Heck yeah. Repeal the 19th amendment. Great idea wissmiss.

BC forgets that at the time of our founding with only white landowners voting, no one was getting taxed land was there for the taking and zoning hadn't been invented.

I agree with the civics test.

I used to tend to agree on the landowner thing as well, but my thoughts on that have changed. The reason is, because these days especially, a lot of very successful businessmen (and women) choose to live in apartments simply due to where they work. Not too easy to be a landowner in NYC for a young, up and coming investment banker on Wall Street. To own land they would likely need to find a place outside of the city and then deal with a lengthy commute. Much easier to just rent an apartment a block or two from work. I don't think people like that should be denied the right to vote just because they rent instead of own.

I think a better alternative would be denying the vote to those that take part in certain government handouts such as TANF, SNAP, Medicaid, Title 19, etc.

I would prefer only trappers could vote.

The problem is that no one was verifying signatures on the mail in the ballots, so they all got thrown in the 'good enough' pile and counted.

This is true to a point. We first learned about signature match and how it was the ONLY security measure built into vote by mail ballots. That was in NV in 2020, when they used a machine to do the signature match. Compare the signature on the ballot envelop to signature on file. Rejection rate running close to 40% or more. So they dumbed it down and were still getting rejections,.......so they eventually turned it off. No signature verification. They counted all kinds of ballots in AZ in 2022 with signatures that didn't match, plus ballots with NO signature at all.

But this is treating the symptom, not the problem. Like airing up a tire that keeps going flat. What if the name on the voter roll isn't even a real person to begin with? Or was a real person but moved? One of the reason the signatures on ballots didn't match in NV was the people they sent them to had moved. People who had been living in Las Vegas moved back to CA, were no longer voting in NV, yet ballot mailed to them anyway. Somebody not the voter marked it up and returned it. Then we find voter names on the rolls are registered to empty lots, RV lots, addresses that don't exist, etc. No real person at mailbox end, and in some cases, no mailbox at all. Yet live ballot sent there and ends up..........where?

In MI in 2024 they found real people, real valid addresses, only problem is the guy has never voted in his life. He was asked, he didn't register his name, didn't mark up a ballot, yet his name is on the roll and he was mailed a ballot and it was marked up and returned........by somebody........just not him. In MI they found several like that. Most.......not all.......but most of that goes away when the voter has to show up live and in person, with photo ID. Do that and you eliminate most of the fraud. This also means the voter his own self marked up the ballot and also scanned it into the voting machine at time it was marked up. Distance ballot traveled was from election judge to voter's hand. Chain of custody only one link. No need to hire hundreds to open envelopes, verify signatures, scan ballots, and do all the rest, with opportunity to pull some stunt at every step along the way.

And as for all the rest, I'll be happy if they stop there. Real person with valid ID to prove is US Citizen and is a match for registration on voter roll. Not sure we can even get that, let alone all the other.

Is your hair dyed purple or pink

Blue has been grting more popular around here lately.

she is just jumping to conclusions right off responding with out thinking about it . We have all done the exact thing at some time. Clearly didn't think about or separate absent ballots vs blanket mail in voting easy to do or assume a poster was referring to one not the other.

also got a touch emotional appearing when talking about owning land and taking it to why not don't let women vote. Adding emotional personal things without seeing the reasoning behind the statement. People with something to loose vs vote more food stamps and benefits. Funny how corporate wellfair and subsidies often get left out of these conversations. But if someone wanted to put some salt in the wound they could use this for an argument as to why women's emotional cpu is why they shouldn't vote. EVEN THOUGH NOT A SINGLE person has side such.


Or we could quit reading into her statements and take it point blank she thinks the system is good to go or doesn't need changed.. Maybe just maybe has not seen or live in a state that mails out ballots to everyone and ballot harvesting in action . Most people don't realize it only takes a few districts in a few states to swing an election. No need for wide spread voter fraud. Over 100% voter turn out in some places when typically it's not 40. Nope nothing odd with that. Our system broken and we are being played. DOGE didn't break the surface but was short lived and little will get done to fix it.

When you start looking into this, here are two good examples of what you can run into.

First one is interesting story out of Detroit. This guy has documented election fraud........and nobody cares. But what is important is HOW the fraud took place. He is a real person......a lot of people they have documented are.......it's just that a vote was cast (vote by mail ballot) in their name.......just not by them. This is just scratching the surface. BTW, on Nov 4th, 2020, in MI, there was a 6 AM vote dump out of Detroit........150,000 votes...........96% of which were for Biden. That was after the fact when they knew how many votes they needed to make up. And they did.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/detroit-activist-brings-80-citizens-dc-plead-lawmakers/

Second story by Newsweek also out of MI as they attempt to address the story about police getting involved after lady was found trying to dump off up to 10,000 fake voter registrations. As one would expect, Newsweek adopts leftist view nothing bad took place, makes all kinds of excuses and pronounces it fake news. What never gets followed up upon, this was eventually referred to FBI.........Biden era FBI.......what took over investigation and promptly buried it. No word on it since.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check...er-2020-democratic-election-plot-1820154

Common theme to both stories? Mechanism used for the election fraud was vote by mail.

Social Security Disability too. Any welfare.

Fine line, there. Should someone that lost both of their legs in war, such as the guy mentioned in Paul's post, be denied the right to vote if they get SSI???