Them guys in Newton county TX did good work recently

That looks like a pretty permanent place they were at, I take it this must be a pretty serious problem in those counties.

What do you think happens to the dogs that don't fight well or are at the end of their fighting careers? The amount of feral pit bulls roaming some of my trapping grounds in Oklahoma is crazy.
Seen a group of 8 on the outskirts of a small town, normal encounters are 3 or 4. I can tell you they are rough on the native critters and it is disgusting when they get in a pasture with young calves.

I guess I never realized dog fighting was an all black thing. I thought us whites were in on it too.

not in Newton they arent. also seized over $74,000.00 in cash.

Round here they get a bullet and dumped in whatever open container is easily available usually the garbage bins at the church

The perpetrators should just be inserted into the middle of the fight. Lowlifes.

Whites fight Roosters. Wish they'd make (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) Fighting legal again, shame to see the lines of those birds disappear.

Nah y'all fight dogs too, usually stuff is set up better lot quieter don't get caught as much but when yall do either really big organized deals or really small trailer park whatevers ... Blacks and Hispanics it seem to be more of that middle ground type stuff

Personally do t like the idea of making two animals fight for human amusement but...idk chicken s fighting doesn't give me the exact same deal of disgust...still hate it ...but .....chickens ........

Rooster Fighting was basically the national sport, the founders liked it and fighting birds were real close to being our national symbol instead of stupid Eagles. I've never heard of any white guys getting busted fighting dogs, I'm sure it happens but it definitely seems to be something the brothers prefer.

… Newton county rough… it’s east of here…. We’re considered civilized compared to those boys lol

In the movie Roots, Chicken George fought chickens. It was his thang.

I was in a camp one time after Michael Vick was released. Had a bunch of guys from MO, Tenn, and Al. at supper I asked, is dog fighting really common. It got reallly quiet. Then an older gent (Gordon) looks at me and says yes it is. Been to WI for it as well. I was like Ok lets eat. Was told do not ever ask that. Dumb Yank.

….used to sell a lot of chicken steroids out of the feed store when I was younger to good ol boys… they’d have chicken fights every Friday night

… I see nothin wrong with it

Cockfighting still happens here. At one time it was a big deal in Oklahoma. They were kind of fun to watch.

Black trash and white trash fight dogs here. You hear about it occasionally when talking to the wrong people.

Hemingway had some thoughts on it.

See, white folks tend to keep stuff on the down low more like that . Gotta know someone who knows someone, no one really talks about it in the open ,ect why you never really hear about white people doing it . Last few cases I read about stuff was running deep too. Judges , cops ect where in on it type of stuff

Black people....no so much.

Its like that with a lot of stuff legal or not I noticed

There were quite a few yards around here with a bunch of rooster boxes thirty years ago. Very few now. Law enforcement stopped winking at the fighting and started enforcing it. And public acceptance has dwindled away. Which is a good thing in my opinion. Dad taught us to respect animals and treat them humanely.

I'm with you, Dan.

What about sticking 2 siamese fighting fish in the same tank?

About a year after highschool I ran into my best friend from when I was 5 to 10 years old lost touch after I moved across town. Hung out with him off and on over a few months. Went to his uncle's house with him once. Several acres with blue plastic barrels cut out liks a dog house but each one had a rooster teathered with rope to its leg. In some out buildings were padded rooster shape fabric dummies in a short broom handle About a 8" to a foot. His uncle said the 4 shot in the shotgun was for Arial predators. I never made it to any of the events. Quit hanging out again after a short time. Different lifestyle I think he ended up in jail or prison. I know he stole a dirt bike and got caught after crashing it running from the owner when they recognized the bike. I have always been glad we moved. Every kid I grew up with in that neighborhood ended up in trouble it seems.

It was the first time Inknew (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) fighting was a big thing. My friend talked like he made a lot of money at them. He may have ot it could have been all talk. I never went so have no clue.

I was told that those fighting dogs are wagging their tails before being released in the pit. They like it. Chickens are not forced to fight either. They just do it.

I never watched a dog fight. Not something I would enjoy. I'm also not going to tell someone else they shouldn't let their dogs or chickens fight. Even though the animals want to.

Anyone ever watch 2 turkey gobblers fighting ? I saw it 1 time and it was something to see. Jumping off of the ground, flaping wings and hooking with there feet. They both did a lot of pecking at each others heads. the fight must of lasted at least 10 maybe 15 minutes. Oh yea, they both walked away.

had a cat fight in the yard and only one was able to walk away the other was stationary gasping flat on its side. no blood or easly visible damage. I never thought they wre fatal befor I saw that. Typically see one run off with the other in pursuit or standing watching. The way ae have had Tom's com back with riped ears, eased and swelled up infected heads and paws I thought that was as bad as it got.


Found out I was wrong.

6 year old girl just got mauled by two pitts in Omaha.

There is a large dog fighting problem here too. My brother was attacked by a pit while putting air in hit tire at a gas station. The responding state trooper told him there is a big dog fighting problem here as well. The trooper said pitts are being bred for fighting. Only the best ones are kept for fighting, the rest are either culled or worse yet end up in shelters or rescue projects. These dogs are bred from fighting moms and dads, it’s hard wired in them. Just like the best hunting dogs come from moms and dads that hunt.

Free range pitts don't live long here

My grandfather "pop" DISalvo as well as my Dad and Uncle used to fight chicken in the 60's, 70's by the eighties it was hard do, and Pop got caught a few times.. He bred his own line of white pure white fighter that were very good. I remember there where, whites, greys, red, and spackles as he called them. He fought with the pin spurs not the knives. I wen tot just one fight when I was oh 14 or so with him and his friends. its the only thing he did NOT teach me how to do.I feel he knew it was dying and illegal and he didn't want me to get wrapped up in it.

He said he went to one dog fight, said it was to brutal and never went to another.

all i gotta say and someone already did. them dogs are wagging their tails and chomping at the bit to go fight their (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) off. lot like any ufc fighter. everyone thinks people force these dogs to fight or these roosters that just isnt the case. they are prize fighting machines. some are so good like (conor megregor) or (george st pierre) they will not stop until victory is acheived or die trying.

i got 2 boys that wrestle and they would rather die then lose. there aint no quit in them. so i have a certian respect for something that dont give up and keeps fighting. never quit.

just like hog catch dogs. they go till they cant.

been around pits my whole life have owned several of them and still do. i been bit by labs, gsps, walker hounds, chiuahua, beagles, heelers, never been bit by a pit in my life. not saying they dont bit but ive been bit more by other breeds than a pit. and ive been around way more pits than other breeds.

thats all carry on

I don't like pitbulls, but to subject them to fighting and consider it entertainment is cruel and pathetic.

You've got to be a special kind of dirt bag to enjoy that, for sure.

Thats what folks say about hunting and trapping. I wont participate in dog or chicken fights but we trappers should be on their side.

WHY? To equate hunting and trapping with dog and cockfighting is ludicrous. There is nothing similar about them!

Absolutely not

That's like comparing a good married couple raising their children to a couple of transvestites adopting and indoctrinating kids.

Too much green money around (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) fighting and dog fighting for the revenuers to let it be.

The folks that dont want you trap base their opinion on emotion. Same thing your doing. Never forget those ANIMALS WANT to fight.

I dont like watching 3-4-5 coursing hounds chase down a coyote and rip it to shreds but I will never try to deny the houndsmen the legallity to do it

Those birds and dogs are selectively bred for generations to fight with viciousness. And the sole purpose of it is for people to gamble and get their jollies by watching them attack, and injure, and often kill each other. It's sick. My personal view is that is not what God had in mind when he created the earth and every living thing and gave man stewardship over them.

Not going to comment on the ethics, but you have to be some kind of stupid to be doing this sort of things out in the open under the bright lights. It is illegal. No one has an enclosed shed where they could at least try to be descreet?

[quote=MuddyMike]all i gotta say and someone already did. them dogs are wagging their tails and chomping at the bit to go fight their (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) off. lot like any ufc fighter. everyone thinks people force these dogs to fight or these roosters that just isnt the case. they are prize fighting machines. some are so good like (conor megregor) or (george st pierre) they will not stop until victory is acheived or die trying.

i got 2 boys that wrestle and they would rather die then lose. there aint no quit in them. so i have a certian respect for something that dont give up and keeps fighting. never quit.

just like hog catch dogs. they go till they cant.

been around pits my whole life have owned several of them and still do. i been bit by labs, gsps, walker hounds, chiuahua, beagles, heelers, never been bit by a pit in my life. not saying they dont bit but ive been bit more by other breeds than a pit. and ive been around way more pits than other breeds.

thats all carry on

Oh poppycock…they are absolutely forcing them to fight. They get dropped in a ring and they either fight or they die…not much choice there. That’s like dropping you in a coliseum with a gladiator and someone telling you they aren’t forcing you to fight…you fight or you die. Good grief

Humans have been fighting each other for hundreds of years. Many have died and it's legal.
Animals fight that's nature. Plenty of trees that need some loving

For sure

Dang! They way worse than I thought if that's the case. lol

… looked at the people caught there and my county was represented lol

My lab wants to crap in the house. Should I let her? She ALWAYS WANTS to do it.
I train my dog not to.
Pitbulls have been selectively bred to fight. The ones that didn't were shot out back.
Now if they catch one that mauled a kid to death, i'd pay money to watch those ones be shot out back.

I think a few man cards need to be recalled.

I don't have any interest in watching dog's fight each other but but enjoy a good terrier, big or small, taking care of business.

There are multitudes of people who want to see that banned too.

My uncle fought em when he was living in New Mexico… roosters too … he was rough ol hand

… drank so much the lining of his esophagus wore through and bled to death at 39

Interesting discussion. It is not ok to fight dogs or c#### (unacceptable) yet allow me. We hunt bears with dogs and yes they catch bears and kill them. We do bear hunt here in Northern WI with dogs seen it first hand. With dogs we run rabbits with, birds, dogs retrieve wounded animals in their mouth. We force breed animals of all species and for better breeds as we see fit. I watch amish train horses, not real pretty. We use animals for medical experiments giving them cancer, stds, etc. Obviously I can go on.
- we trap animals with steal leg hold traps, drown them or kill them.
I really struggle with the hypocrisy here?

Surprised some folks can’t see the difference between hunting for food and wildlife management and forcing domestic animals to fight for simply money and amusement ….nuff said

Years back there was a guy making the rounder with a black bear that they would fight dogs with. Haven’t heard about that in probably 30yrs.

That took commitment. Wow.

Agreed.

Agreed.

We can justify any perspective we wish, so it fits how we want it to fit for what we view as acceptable or not. When the Olympics were recently in South Korea they asked the markets to not sell dogs in the markets for food during the games. It would offend Westerners, lol perspective.

Agreed again.

Agree. It's trashy low life culture and behavior. And I'm not just talking about the fighting. It's all of it.

Chickens are different. They made a Seinfeld episode about cockfighting. Little Jerry Seinfeld.

Nobody has to force a rooster to fight for entertainment purposes or otherwise. It is their nature. A yard of stags can be raised together from hatching and be best buddies for about 5 months and then one day you'll come home from work on a cool rainy fall day and there will be roughed up stags all over the yard were they started fighting. They get wet and no longer be recognizable to each other and they'll start fighting and from that point on they will need seperated or they will fight till death if they are of a good game bloodline. They are just like any other animal in that they have the positive traits reinforced and the negative traits culled out of them. Like it or not it IS a sport just like any other and we are all sportsman. Spend the day with a TRUE gamefowl lover and breeder and you will understand how much time, work, devotion and respect these people have for their sport and fowl. There are bad people in it just as there are in any other sport. It was one of the most enjoyable things i have ever done in my life and i miss it everyday.