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Re: Whats a "fair" wage for americans. [Re: cathryn] #8509948
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There is another saying "you don't make a living you live on what you make."

Re: Whats a "fair" wage for americans. [Re: lumberjack391] #8509951
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
I always worked piece-rate. By the tree, board foot or truck load. If you were in a good area and put in some effort you made great money. I been in some jobs where no matter what you do you came up short. Some hourly people I know/see work so slow I just want to walk up and slap them.


By the hour Is the worse incentive. Fosters the im hear so many hours to get paid dont care how much gets done or if its efficient mentality. When I work for myself its by the job, lb, unit, or delivery weeks. Its the best deal fort the customer to know what they are geting and makes the worker want to be as fast and efficient as possible.


The I hire help if they are good help I typically buy lunch and if we hmget done early they get paid for the full day and often more than the agreed upon amount. This makes them more likely to want to come back to work next time I need help and let's them know I appreciate the good job they did. Well it used to. lately the help is my kids and they kind of expect dad is buying lunch.

Re: Whats a "fair" wage for americans. [Re: cathryn] #8509956
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Maybe if we weren’t tax so many times for the same dollar our money would go farther then what they collect is never gonna be enough all they want is more. Just use a few creative words to create more fake taxes when the can’t stop spending what the get now on worthless crap and pocketing it!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Whats a "fair" wage for americans. [Re: Providence Farm] #8509963
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
By the hour Is the worse incentive.


For the most part I agree but there are exceptions.

Example: when you are getting paid by the “piece” and your efficiency is dependent on on say a new hire at the scale house and their inefficiency has you going from 6 loads a day to 3, the employer that has the flexibility to change to by the hour will motivate employees to “ride it out”.


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Re: Whats a "fair" wage for americans. [Re: cathryn] #8509965
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Most people have more of a spending problem than earning problem. They spend more tahn thay make and max out credit.

everyone wants to earn more naturally. Few learn basics to optimize tax laws, track their spending and budget. I mean its no fun and who has time for that..

But I will say your further ahead saving a dollar than earning another dollar. The dollar you have can become an employee earning you more. The extra dollar you make is great and can do the same BUT come with cost and you dont have that full dollar left.. First ther is te and expense spent geting to work and at work then deduct taxes so out of your dollar you have 70 to 80c .

Taxes are a huge expense for w2 employees. The tax coad favors interpreters, investors and businesses owners. Learn how to use this to your advantage and build wealth.

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, hard and dangerous jobs a lot of id my life. Alway tool the best thing I could find untill another opportunity presented its self. Somt time that was stopping and asking if they were hiring on the side of the road. but my best jobs have come from networking. Basically someone told me about an opportunity I otherwise would not have known about.

Some of my jobs were not worth the pay and no benefits they had especially for the risk. Building cell towers for under 15 an hour for example. But it was what was available and paid the best for me at the time and I liked traveling briefly.


I think your question is easier answered. If job A takes no shills and is easy and clean in heat and ac environment say fast food. for 15 an hour. Job B is nasty dirty in a chicken plant for 15 an hour few Americans will pick the dirty job. they have beter options. Illiegals dont have the option so take the nasty hard job for low pay. If they didnt then the job would pay more/offer other incentives to get employees or go out of business if they could not do so profitably.

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