There is another saying "you don't make a living you live on what you make."

By the hour Is the worse incentive. Fosters the im hear so many hours to get paid dont care how much gets done or if its efficient mentality. When I work for myself its by the job, lb, unit, or delivery weeks. Its the best deal fort the customer to know what they are geting and makes the worker want to be as fast and efficient as possible.


The I hire help if they are good help I typically buy lunch and if we hmget done early they get paid for the full day and often more than the agreed upon amount. This makes them more likely to want to come back to work next time I need help and let's them know I appreciate the good job they did. Well it used to. lately the help is my kids and they kind of expect dad is buying lunch.

Maybe if we weren’t tax so many times for the same dollar our money would go farther then what they collect is never gonna be enough all they want is more. Just use a few creative words to create more fake taxes when the can’t stop spending what the get now on worthless crap and pocketing it!

For the most part I agree but there are exceptions.

Example: when you are getting paid by the “piece” and your efficiency is dependent on on say a new hire at the scale house and their inefficiency has you going from 6 loads a day to 3, the employer that has the flexibility to change to by the hour will motivate employees to “ride it out”.

Most people have more of a spending problem than earning problem. They spend more tahn thay make and max out credit.

everyone wants to earn more naturally. Few learn basics to optimize tax laws, track their spending and budget. I mean its no fun and who has time for that..

But I will say your further ahead saving a dollar than earning another dollar. The dollar you have can become an employee earning you more. The extra dollar you make is great and can do the same BUT come with cost and you dont have that full dollar left.. First ther is te and expense spent geting to work and at work then deduct taxes so out of your dollar you have 70 to 80c .

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I have done nasty
, hard and dangerous jobs a lot of id my life. Alway tool the best thing I could find untill another opportunity presented its self. Somt time that was stopping and asking if they were hiring on the side of the road. but my best jobs have come from networking. Basically someone told me about an opportunity I otherwise would not have known about.

Some of my jobs were not worth the pay and no benefits they had especially for the risk. Building cell towers for under 15 an hour for example. But it was what was available and paid the best for me at the time and I liked traveling briefly.


I think your question is easier answered. If job A takes no shills and is easy and clean in heat and ac environment say fast food. for 15 an hour. Job B is nasty dirty in a chicken plant for 15 an hour few Americans will pick the dirty job. they have beter options. Illiegals dont have the option so take the nasty hard job for low pay. If they didnt then the job would pay more/offer other incentives to get employees or go out of business if they could not do so profitably.

Back in the 70’s, I had just graduated college with a degree in wildlife management and my first job was with the fed govt as a gs 4 making $3.25 per and it was a seasonal job, nine months a year. I was off in the winter. I lived in a tent and trapped all winter and moved back to my $40 per month house with no heat or air and no water in winter. I made about 2 times as much money trapping for three months as I did working for nine months. Of course, I kept my govt job, even though it paid half as much because I was pretty sure fur prices would not hold up forever. Fur market crashed in 88 and about the same time I went full time and kept progressing up the ladder until I retired. A lot of guys I knew just assumed there were going to be $25 southern coons forever.

Whatever you agree to work for . My dad always said if you’ll work for a dime or a million dollars that’s what you’re worth to someone

"Fair" is when you pay what something is worth. Some employees are worth $100 per hour to their employers. Some are worth 10¢. There are no one number that's fair. It's like asking what's a fair price for a meal. Lobster or Cheeriosl? Everyone who complains that they aren't paid fairly doesn't understand that their value is up to them, not to the employer. If you're worth more, somebody else will be happy to pay more. Employeers are looking for more valuable employees. If nobody is willing to pay more for your work, you're already making what's your worth - that's fair.

Why wait till the review? I went to HR two times and got two raises outside of that time frame.

You are paid what the job is worth. I agree with White17.

Example is McDonald’s. Staff demanded higher wages. Now McDonald’s has cut there staff with Kiosk and apps. This trend will continue.

As higher wages are demanded. Employers will find ways to reduce staff. Accounting, bookkeeping, is next on the list.

This is one reason I believe in a sales tax vs an income tax, then I control how much I I pay in tax on my income.

No one has mentioned benefits such as health insurance, health savings accounts, employer funded retirement, employer retirement matches, etc. I’m lucky that I make a decent wage but the none cash benefits are really what benefits my family.

Someone mentioned earlier that your paid what your worth or the area job supports. I do agree but folks may get stuck on the dollar amount on the paycheck vs the overall compensation package.

Good for you, most large companies don’t work that way unless you change positions.

here the mill starts out at 30 an hour and can't get people to work shift work, with benefits

Folks have been led to believe they can live “the good life” without making any sacrifices.

I was thinking this most of the post. Strawberry picking may and some farm work comes with room/and or board. I worked many jobs that include room and board. Some I chose for the better food and living conditions. Some have included a free beer package. Fortunately, money has rarely been the sole determiner in the jobs I take. I don't really need much to maintain my low quality of life.

Some of yall have some interesting ideas