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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8615494
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You must be referring to motor and transmission. I wouldn’t say easy but not uncommon for 250k+. Work truck has been used heavily and rough. How else are you supposed to use a work truck? It is well maintained however high cost to keep on the road. A vehicle over 100k will be a lot cheaper than new sale price but there will be numerous repairs and maintenance expenses unless you’re lucky like the guy that said he got 500k on his truck without doing anything.

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8615514
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I must be super lucky then, my last 4 f150s have all gone 275k plus with no major issues aside from my own self burning a transmission up. Basic stuff, oil, sparkplugs, brakes etc. did all that myself. Put 100k on the last one andvsold it in running condition. It had 298k on it.


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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: NWS,LLC] #8615704
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Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
You must be referring to motor and transmission. I wouldn’t say easy but not uncommon for 250k+. Work truck has been used heavily and rough. How else are you supposed to use a work truck? It is well maintained however high cost to keep on the road. A vehicle over 100k will be a lot cheaper than new sale price but there will be numerous repairs and maintenance expenses unless you’re lucky like the guy that said he got 500k on his truck without doing anything.

I don't agree. That's not been my experience. Like I said. I'm money ahead from buying pre-owned.

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8615712
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I bought my 2010 Tundra used with 26,000 miles on it. It now has 333,000+ miles on it with no major issues. The biggest issue was the heater box broke at 80,000 miles.
I bought my 2016 Tundra used with 120,000 miles on it, and there have been no issues with it.
I like buying preowned.


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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8615720
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Surprised it not more of a business for you northern / rust belt guys to come down here and bring back truck or even just the bodies up north


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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Paul Dobbins] #8615721
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
I bought my 2010 Tundra used with 26,000 miles on it. It now has 333,000+ miles on it with no major issues. The biggest issue was the heater box broke at 80,000 miles.
I bought my 2016 Tundra used with 120,000 miles on it, and there have been no issues with it.
I like buying preowned.

I am a Tundra fan also. Bought mine new just over a year ago and love it.


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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Wolfdog91] #8615731
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Surprised it not more of a business for you northern / rust belt guys to come down here and bring back truck or even just the bodies up north


My current 2018 Tundra came from Florida. I bought it three years ago. It was owned by a Spanish-speaking contractor, low mileage and not a spot of rust on it. All the radio presets were to Spanish-speaking, Spanish-music-playing stations LOL

I was going to buy a new Tundra since the insurance company gave me 3/4 what I paid for my old Tundra 15 years after I bought it new. But then I realized Toyota was no longer making the super reliable 5.7L or any V-8. The new V-6 was having some issues at that time so I went with used.


Eh...wot?

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Wolfdog91] #8615733
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Surprised it not more of a business for you northern / rust belt guys to come down here and bring back truck or even just the bodies up north

Some do.

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8615766
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I guess I own the biggest POS vehicles known to man. Haven’t figured out how to use a vehicle and be maintenance/issue free.

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: NWS,LLC] #8615774
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Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
I guess I own the biggest POS vehicles known to man. Haven’t figured out how to use a vehicle and be maintenance/issue free.

I've put money and maintenance into them. I'm still ahead though. The cost hasn't justified by using new. No car payment is nice too. Money left over for other things. Why give my hard earned money to the bank plus interest. No thanks. Not for a depreciating liability. Where all in different situations in our lives. Have different wants and needs.

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: NWS,LLC] #8615834
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Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
I guess I own the biggest POS vehicles known to man. Haven’t figured out how to use a vehicle and be maintenance/issue free.

Every vehicle has matanance cost even new.

Buy low milage used and known to be higher reliably models of the type that fits your needs. This time I needed a truck and fairly quickly. I had options between f 150s with 5.4 and 4.6. Went with the lower milage 4.6 even though it and rust the other did not becuse it had 40K less miles and the 4.6 has less known issues. Will this one who knows? I also have my eyes open for a low milage old camary for a daily to save on mpg and keep miles down on the truck when not doing truck required things. 1 cars are cheaper to buy and operate than trucks so using them when I dont need a truck saves money. I'm geting 16.33 mpg out of my truck this week. An old camary will be double that saving me 2k a year in fuel cost. In just 2 to 3 years of fuel savings that will pay for a cheap car alone .

Few people are buying new vehicles in cash. I pay about what a down payment on a new one would be cash. This time 6500 the last few 3200. The average car payment is about 700 a month. Even if i spent 2k a year on matanance thats only about the cost of 3 months car payment. (and I dont ever spend that much a year every year typically maybe 500 to 1000 every other year if that) I buy liability auto insurance saving thousands over the years I have each used vehicle. If I spend 1 to 5 k in matanance in 5 years on a vehicle I paid 6500 for thats 11.5 k in 5 years. Zero monthly payments, zero intrest, and generally matanance is basic wear items. Breaks, rottars, plugs, wires, maybe bearings, a starter or battery tires. Now 11.5k vs 50 to 110k for a new truck plus 6% intrest and lower price auto insurance buys a lot of repair work. Instead I buy used pay cash and instead of the slave making debt payment use the something like $625 a month into my wealth building roth.

But people want new and shiny and tell themselves I deserve it, I need something reliable ect. Car payments have been normalized its odd for people to not have a car payment.



Going from my experience people are lieing to themselves using its cheaper to buy and operate new.. both vehicles have wear items. Very few run the actual #s and see what that new vehicle actually cost them. And by that I mean puting that money into investments over 10 20 or 30 years vs into vehicle payments.

That driving that new vehicle cost you a million or more over 30 years in opportunity cost..

Its their money spend it how they want but make informed decisions using math not emotions. Most people see a new vehicle as a visible status symbol. Your brokerage account is not visible to the public.

Most of the public is busy trying to look rich and that keeps them from becoming rich.


Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8615994
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Even at 3800 for the transmission i burnt up, it was still heaps cheaper than me making payments on a new rig. Between taxes, insurance, etc. new ones break to then what? Buddy has several thousand into a diesel thats only a few years old. 60k dollar truck and haveing to drop a few grand...not my thing but you do you.


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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Wolfdog91] #8615997
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Surprised it not more of a business for you northern / rust belt guys to come down here and bring back truck or even just the bodies up north

It's a huge business around here


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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8616005
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A lot of good info here both arguments/opinions have good reasons behind the. Question for Paul and others that buy used trucks.....do you just keep an eye out for good deals or do you use internet sites for these used trucks? And if so any good ones to utilize?

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Lugnut] #8616057
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Surprised it not more of a business for you northern / rust belt guys to come down here and bring back truck or even just the bodies up north


My current 2018 Tundra came from Florida. I bought it three years ago. It was owned by a Spanish-speaking contractor, low mileage and not a spot of rust on it. All the radio presets were to Spanish-speaking, Spanish-music-playing stations LOL

I was going to buy a new Tundra since the insurance company gave me 3/4 what I paid for my old Tundra 15 years after I bought it new. But then I realized Toyota was no longer making the super reliable 5.7L or any V-8. The new V-6 was having some issues at that time so I went with used.

A rust free 2018 should be a great truck.


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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: MChewk] #8616058
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Originally Posted by MChewk
A lot of good info here both arguments/opinions have good reasons behind the. Question for Paul and others that buy used trucks.....do you just keep an eye out for good deals or do you use internet sites for these used trucks? And if so any good ones to utilize?

You never know what your going to get. It's a roll of the dice. I research what years to stay away from and what years are good to start with. Then I search common problems with the better year vehicles and go from there.

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: WI Outdoors] #8616062
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Originally Posted by WI Outdoors
Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
I guess I own the biggest POS vehicles known to man. Haven’t figured out how to use a vehicle and be maintenance/issue free.

I've put money and maintenance into them. I'm still ahead though. The cost hasn't justified by using new. No car payment is nice too. Money left over for other things. Why give my hard earned money to the bank plus interest. No thanks. Not for a depreciating liability. Where all in different situations in our lives. Have different wants and needs.

Nothing says you can't pay cash for a new one.


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Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8616069
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Trapdog. Like I said, I'm just sharing my take on this. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. We all have different wants and needs.

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: Providence Farm] #8616071
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BIG difference in a yota with 28,000 vs a ford with 85,000 when you buy them. PF you are wrong about maintenance cost for a new one. Well mine. Our dealer gives free oil changes for 3 years 36,000. FREE lifetime power train warranty. Pros and cons for both. You want to factor in investing instead of buying new? Let's run the numbers since you insist on "doing" the math .You want to see the economy crash? EVERYONE take your advice for 1 year . No six months. NO ONE BUY A NEW CAR !!! Then get back to me on where your "accounts" are at. You want to run the numbers. Make sure you "run " them all......

Re: Old trucks vs new. [Re: trapdog1] #8616072
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Lugnut
My current 2018 Tundra came from Florida. I bought it three years ago. It was owned by a Spanish-speaking contractor, low mileage and not a spot of rust on it. All the radio presets were to Spanish-speaking, Spanish-music-playing stations LOL

I was going to buy a new Tundra since the insurance company gave me 3/4 what I paid for my old Tundra 15 years after I bought it new. But then I realized Toyota was no longer making the super reliable 5.7L or any V-8. The new V-6 was having some issues at that time so I went with used.

A rust free 2018 should be a great truck.


I'm thinking it should last a good long while. Especially since it's not my daily driver except during trapping seasons. it's primarily my hunting/trapping/fishing rig. Fluid Film is my friend.


Eh...wot?

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