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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: martentrapper]
#8617936
05/28/26 11:53 AM
05/28/26 11:53 AM
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Oregon
beaverpeeler
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Oregon
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Personally, I hate mail in voting. Always liked to go down to the fire station, see the little old ladies running things, sign in and then go vote with the punch-out cards.
But Oregon has had mail in voting longer than any other state, and over the last 19 years the amount of fraud detected has been microscopic. Never would have changed any result.
Every voter signature is checked. There are many other safeguards in place as well. If you want to know more about it look it up on-line. League of Women Voters are always invited to oversee the whole process.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: martentrapper]
#8617938
05/28/26 11:54 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
beaverpeeler
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Oregon
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What I see here is this constant conspiracy theory stuff that oozes out on these pages. Crapola say I.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: beaverpeeler]
#8618165
05/28/26 09:34 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
bearcat2
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I don't buy the voter fraud crap. Never been any proof of anything that made one iota of difference in any election. Period. If you wanna believe different go ahead. You're wrong!!!!!! Never thought much of it 30 years ago when I turned 18. I lived in Washington at the time and while it wasn't a mail in voting state yet, I signed up for absentee voting (because I worked out of town all the time) and had my ballot mailed to me. When I moved to Idaho, they sent my ballot to my Idaho address the next THREE elections! This despite my calling them the first two times they sent me one and informing them that I was now an Idaho resident and registered to vote in Idaho. Now I will say that one thing that told me was, the Democrat run government of Washington, despite lots of blatant election fraud at that time, was not looking at my voting record before sending me that ballot, because I certainly hadn't voted for any of those people in office. Now I confess to never looking into voter fraud in Oregon. But I do know that it is much easier to fraud mail in ballots than it is if you have to show up at a polling place and show picture id. Does it happen enough to make a difference in Oregon? I don't know. But I will give you an example, I remember when I was young, my parents would get absentee ballots in the mail, and my mom would always fill out both ballots. Now at the time I never thought much of it, because it didn't really make a difference, if dad would have filled it out he would have voted exactly the same way, but it was still fraud. How many people fill out their parents or other elderly relatives ballots? How many fill them out differently than those relatives would have? Or, how many coach relatives, friends, etc. (like waggler's example) on how to vote as they fill out their ballots? Something that is illegal to do at a polling place?
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: martentrapper]
#8618345
05/29/26 10:53 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Oregon
beaverpeeler
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Oregon
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Signature gatherers typically don’t get paid for bad signatures so they try hard to vet the people signing. 15% is the number usually bantered about.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: martentrapper]
#8618407
05/29/26 02:04 PM
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Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
KeithC
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Champaign County, Ohio.
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In Oregon, all you need to register online to vote is a printer and something to sign with. "If you don’t have an Oregon driver license, permit, ID card, or the last four digits of your social security number, you can still use the online system, but you will need access to a printer. After entering your information, a PDF of your voter registration card will appear. Print it, sign it, and mail or deliver it to your county elections office." No documentation is required at all!!! Oregon tells you what you "need", but then below it says it's unnecessary. https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/registration.aspx?lang=en![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2026/05/full-11798-293981-screenshot_20260529_135550.png) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2026/05/full-11798-293982-screenshot_20260529_135559.png) ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2026/05/full-11798-293983-screenshot_20260529_135621.png) It appears you can find people's signatures through the website, after proving you're human, with just their name and birth date too, if you wanted to copy their signature. Keith
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: martentrapper]
#8618502
05/29/26 07:21 PM
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SEPA
Lugnut
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SEPA
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You have to remember that the Oregon voter registration system was implemented by the same type of people, liberal Democrats, that wanted to and in some cases did require vaccine passports for people to eat in restaurants or access any public space, travel, or even go to work.
But these same people scoff at the idea of a requiring voter ID cards and label it as racist and an infringement on the right to vote.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: martentrapper]
#8618776
05/30/26 12:41 PM
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Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
KeithC
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Champaign County, Ohio.
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Somewhere in US history someone thought, "Hey, mail in voting will get more people voting". 2 days later, another person realized mail in voting will allow more and easier cheating. Thus, mail in became the preferred method for the Dems! I think it would be good for conservatives to get organized and send in more illegal ballots than the dems do! I strongly suspect the democrats knew from before it was even implemented, that mail in voting would facilitate cheating. Keith
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: warrior]
#8619046
05/31/26 07:53 AM
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IA
teepee2
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IA
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And this is exactly why our founders created a representative republic and absolutely despised democracies. 2x
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: KeithC]
#8619067
05/31/26 09:03 AM
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Joined: Feb 2015
Iowa
trapdog1
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Iowa
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Somewhere in US history someone thought, "Hey, mail in voting will get more people voting". 2 days later, another person realized mail in voting will allow more and easier cheating. Thus, mail in became the preferred method for the Dems! I think it would be good for conservatives to get organized and send in more illegal ballots than the dems do! I strongly suspect the democrats knew from before it was even implemented, that mail in voting would facilitate cheating. Keith Republicans knew that too, but they let it happen anyway. By design, I'd wager.
American Karens - not a fan
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Re: Oregon ballot initiative!
[Re: martentrapper]
#8619073
05/31/26 09:23 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Alabama (Bama for short) 108 y...
Jtrapper
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Kind of hard to figure that there are 120,000 people that would sign something like that.
As dumb as that state is id think that would be a easy number to get in Portland alone. Won't shock me if it becomes law, isn't like we have any power house trapping organization that can or will do anything about it.
Mass. years ago did away with trapping and everyone said wait till they see what happens. Beaver's caused all sorts of problems and a few trapper's turned into high dollar ADC trappers. 800 bucks a beaver and such to the point when attempts were made to get trapping rights back the ADC boys joined with HSUS to shoot it down. Didn't want to lose their cash cow.
If this pass's same will happen, when everything gets out of hand they will allow this and that under certain condition's to deal with the problems it has caused.
It's the democrat way, create a crisis then run in to fix the crisis you caused. All with taxpayer's money of course.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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