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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: Muskrat] #8622658
06/08/26 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Those of us who don't know any better will continue to use the KB stabilizer where appropriate.

#330s on the KB can easily be stabilized with the addition of one stick through the corner of the jaws. You can do the same with any bodygrip and you'll have a stable unit. One stick.

Another reason to use the KB is it allows the beaver to kick out of the set area. The problem with a stand is it keeps the dead critter in place. I would rather have that bottom edge location freed up for the next critter to swim through and not find his dead buddy laying there.

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You nailed it Mike!!!


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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: coondagger2] #8622675
06/08/26 01:15 PM
06/08/26 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
KB's on crossovers probably work good because you can press the legs in the ground a little.

For rocky streams they are useless.

Your area of contact on a rocky creek bottom is limited to the 4 legs with KB's design. They are probably 1/8" diameter.

In order to stabilize a big 330 you need a much larger footprint and much more bottom contact than 4 little legs.

Probably 75% of my trapping is in places you'd never drive rebar in the bottom of the creek. You'd bend 3/8" rebar like a pretzel.

These work a lot better

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I don't have rocky streams....just muddy and sandy bottoms. Your stabilizer looks like it would work great for 330s, but ol'Boco won't like it.


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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8622680
06/08/26 01:49 PM
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I can't take credit for them. That's the Hammer's design. 11"x7" with 1/2" rebar. They work good on their own but if you can set a rock on one or both of the springs an alligator couldn't knock it over

You can see the big rocks I set on the springs in some of these pics.

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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8622682
06/08/26 01:56 PM
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No sense in beating a dead horse. But you can' t adjust your height with a kb.
I don't see how you could stabilize 330 or a 280 in a dam break or in a wet cross over. Or when setting a beaver pull out or castor mound set when you need to have the trap half under the water, so the triggers aren't exposed.
With 2 short stakes you can adjust the trap and the fine adjustment Is when you either push the springs down to raise the trap or pull them up to lower the trap. And those short stakes allow the beaver or otter to get off the stabilizing stakes. And with the staking system you don't have to screw around tying on some extra gear. And the best part wood Is FREE.
I can see the use of a KB in a rat trapping or mink trapping when making a B&E set.
I never tried them, but I bet the Hagz bracket system would work Better then a KB system. Drive in the stake slide the trap down the stake till it rests on the bottom. Or what's wrong with using 120. Slid it down the stake keep the bottom spring flat and pull up on the top spring, so the trap locks up against the stake. Just leave a 6" or so at the bottom so you can stick it in the bottom. There are all kinds of systems that will out preform a KB.
Oh well to each his own.

Last edited by The Beav; 06/08/26 01:59 PM.

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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8622683
06/08/26 02:03 PM
06/08/26 02:03 PM
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Still better than toting an armload of 'backer sticks around Beav....lol


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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: The Beav] #8622691
06/08/26 02:34 PM
06/08/26 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
No sense in beating a dead horse. But you can' t adjust your height with a kb.
I don't see how you could stabilize 330 or a 280 in a dam break or in a wet cross over. Or when setting a beaver pull out or castor mound set when you need to have the trap half under the water, so the triggers aren't exposed.
With 2 short stakes you can adjust the trap and the fine adjustment Is when you either push the springs down to raise the trap or pull them up to lower the trap. And those short stakes allow the beaver or otter to get off the stabilizing stakes. And with the staking system you don't have to screw around tying on some extra gear. And the best part wood Is FREE.
I can see the use of a KB in a rat trapping or mink trapping when making a B&E set.
I never tried them, but I bet the Hagz bracket system would work Better then a KB system. Drive in the stake slide the trap down the stake till it rests on the bottom. Or what's wrong with using 120. Slid it down the stake keep the bottom spring flat and pull up on the top spring, so the trap locks up against the stake. Just leave a 6" or so at the bottom so you can stick it in the bottom. There are all kinds of systems that will out preform a KB.
Oh well to each his own.


Never tried 'em . . . but there are all kinds of systems that will out perform 'em. Hmmmmm . . . me thinks the Beav missed his calling when they cast the crew for the Red Green Show. He would've made a great Hap Shaughnessy!




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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8622707
06/08/26 03:45 PM
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Hey rat lets go to South Carolina and you bring your KBs and I'll haul around bacca sticks and we will see who comes out on top. LOL


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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8622732
06/08/26 04:54 PM
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KB stabilizers are another tool in the tool box. If you like them, use them. If you don't like them, use something else. I have never had a beaver or otter or any other critter complain about them.

And according to Wheelers........
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They are still made. Minnesota Trapline should have some in a week or 2.


The above was posted by him on another thread today.


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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: QuietButDeadly] #8622740
06/08/26 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by QuietButDeadly
KB stabilizers are another tool in the tool box. If you like them, use them. If you don't like them, use something else. I have never had a beaver or otter or any other critter complain about them.

And according to Wheelers........
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They are still made. Minnesota Trapline should have some in a week or 2.


The above was posted by him on another thread today.
I agree. Have a few and use them situations using related to rocky conditions a handful of times a year.


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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8622757
06/08/26 06:49 PM
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I read a lot of the thread but not all. If I could have one and only one commercially made bodygrip stabilizer it would hands down be the KB. Frozen shore early spring beaver trapping they are the best! So many scenarios they are all I need with a small stick for aid here and there. I’ll likely be making some new ones of my own similar to Seldoms. I trap muck, rock, frozen ground, you name it, I love em.

As far as the tangle deal, I don’t think they’re too bad. I have the big steel carabiners on cable hooking them to the inside of the spring eyes. Happy trapping! ScottW

Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8622967
06/09/26 10:28 AM
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I talked to Kurt this morning and the stabilizer is being made and shipped as soon as they're made. He is currently working on two new sizes one for 330/280 size and one for 110 size---The 110 size will have a weaker spring to lessen the tension on the trigger which has some trappers concerned with the current model putting more tension on the trigger and missing some animals(mink). He will be testing a body grip trap this fall for marten/fisher, I hope to have a few to play with too!

Its a good time to be a trapper!

Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: Tom Fisher] #8622969
06/09/26 10:34 AM
06/09/26 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Fisher
I talked to Kurt this morning and the stabilizer is being made and shipped as soon as they're made. He is currently working on two new sizes one for 330/280 size and one for 110 size---The 110 size will have a weaker spring to lessen the tension on the trigger which has some trappers concerned with the current model putting more tension on the trigger and missing some animals(mink). He will be testing a body grip trap this fall for marten/fisher, I hope to have a few to play with too!

Its a good time to be a trapper!


Good news!

The Beav has the solution to weakening the spring on the current model.


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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8622971
06/09/26 10:37 AM
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They work in water for me,useless on land, caught rats, mink, beaver an otter with them on channel an be sets

Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8627330
06/19/26 11:29 AM
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We have the KB Stabilizers back in stock at MTP for those wondering.
https://mntrapline.com/products/kb-stabilizer

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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: Muskrat] #8627416
06/19/26 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Originally Posted by Tom Fisher
I talked to Kurt this morning and the stabilizer is being made and shipped as soon as they're made. He is currently working on two new sizes one for 330/280 size and one for 110 size---The 110 size will have a weaker spring to lessen the tension on the trigger which has some trappers concerned with the current model putting more tension on the trigger and missing some animals(mink). He will be testing a body grip trap this fall for marten/fisher, I hope to have a few to play with too!

Its a good time to be a trapper!


Good news!

The Beav has the solution to weakening the spring on the current model.



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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: The Beav] #8627444
06/19/26 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by Muskrat


Good news!

The Beav has the solution to weakening the spring on the current model.



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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8627586
06/20/26 08:41 AM
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Use them for certain applications, like frozen banks when spring beaver trapping, or in the fall where the set location is all rock.

I do add a piece of cable and a quick link so I don't lose them when the trap fires.

Just a quick tool to use in some locations that can add more fur to the season.

Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8627621
06/20/26 11:36 AM
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Man look like a guy could build those things pretty relay with some rod and a trap spring


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Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: gibb] #8627623
06/20/26 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gibb
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Use them for certain applications, like frozen banks when spring beaver trapping, or in the fall where the set location is all rock.

I do add a piece of cable and a quick link so I don't lose them when the trap fires.

Just a quick tool to use in some locations that can add more fur to the season.


I don't own any, but can't count the number of times I wished I did dealing with those frozen banks in the spring.

Re: KB Stabilizers [Re: alaska viking] #8627905
06/21/26 02:36 PM
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KB stabilizers have a place on my mink line. Fast, simple, last forever. Another good tool for making things simple. It helps to know where you need them and have them in your plan. You can use many other tools to do the same thing but I have many and I won't sell any. I like what Kurt makes. He had many good ideas in my opinion.


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