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WI Gun Deer Thread #6668372
11/17/19 06:04 PM
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Next Saturday Guys! Can't wait. Heading out to the deer shack Friday after work.

Good Luck to Everyone!


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6668378
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Yep! Son and I both have Friday off so I am heading up to his place for the hunt for the weekend. Friday night we head to the landowner's shack to sip a little whiskey and catch up for the year. Saturday night they all come over to my son's place for a big feed...and sipping a little whiskey. Hope fully we will all be great successful warriors and dance around pounding our spears on our shields!

Have a safe and fun hunt!

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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6668437
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Skipping opening weekend but will hunt later and muzzleloader if necessary.

Last edited by corky; 11/17/19 07:35 PM. Reason: Feeling sorry for myself. This should be a happy thread.
Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6668486
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I got 3 days work this week , might be the longest 3 days of the year , although if like last week I was so busy , I have Thursday off to get packed and headed up first thing Friday Morning.


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6668716
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Heading up Friday AM to the northern retreat. The utility firm needs to replace the gas line meter and will do that Friday while we are there. Son will come up Friday after work. We hunt about a day and a half or so and come home. This year the schedule looks so full probably won't go back up after Turkey Day. Promised the 3 granddaughters I would work with them on making 3 Gingerbread houses with them and they are raring to go.

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Good luck everyone.


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Going up again for the whole season but have not got a deer the past 7 years. We hardly ever see deer. The wolves have taken over our territory in the National Forest. Years ago it use to be awesome trophy hunting.


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6668800
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Will walk out my back door as usual opener. After that I will carry the rifle with beaver trapping. I enjoy the muzzle loader season alot more after the army of orange has went home.



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Setting up deer camp Thursday. Should have the woodstove purring, the Coleman lanterns humming and the cribbage board pegging by sundown. Put in a few mink sets for fun Friday morning and get stands ready in the afternoon. Good luck and be safe out there.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6668820
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Wishing everyone a safe hunt out there and an enjoyable hunt. The forecast suggests moderate, almost mild temps for our opener. Partly sunny, highs upper 30's to 40, here around Fall Creek.
Was initially planning to hunt the opener up at a friend's cabin SW of Grand View, but won't make it up there until muzzleloader season now. Have to hang close to the farm for family reasons.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: forester79] #6668821
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Originally Posted by forester79
Will walk out my back door as usual opener. After that I will carry the rifle with beaver trapping. I enjoy the muzzle loader season alot more after the army of orange has went home.

Nice thing that the orange army usually retreats by Sunday afternoon.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Pike River] #6668824
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Originally Posted by Pike River

Nice thing that the orange army usually retreats by Sunday afternoon.


They might stay out all day Sunday. Packers don't play 'til after seven.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6668830
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It's always interesting to hear when the first shot "sounds off" on opening day. Many times it's 20 minutes or better before the legal time, at least by me. Can be earlier if there's snow.

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My son and I heading out Friday to my sister cottage. We have hunted from there for many years now with my brother and couple others. Back in September the piece of county woods we hunt was marked for clear cutting. The tree I actually lock my seat on has been marked as has the whole area our group hunts. I've shot 5 deer from that spot and before that it was my older brother stand..My brother checked with the county and someone did place a bid to cut that woods.. So having not been there for couple weeks we aren't sure our woods won't be buzzing with skidders and cutters, We are all hopping they don't get started working until after deer season. Then for next year for sure we will have to scout new place to be. Just one of them things have to deal with on public land. My original stand in that area was cut over after tornado went threw, That was 11 years ago and they salvaged cut all that. It's now young pines so thick can hardly walk in there..


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6668839
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I'll be going to my daughter's school to eat lunch with her on Thursday then heading up to camp right away. My hope is to get a half dozen or so fisher sets spread throughout our woods, all in locations that look fisher-y and that are nearby others' stands so they can check them for me while going hunting so I dont have to traipse all over their spots.

We will have 6 of us in camp this year. Normally we spend Friday splitting and stacking wood, but this year our wood bins are all full so maybe we'll go fishing if this warm weather doesn't chew up too much of the ice. We had 4.5" when fishing on the 15th.

Good luck to all and stay safe!

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Mac, that area you've been hunting that's about to be logged off will be really good in a couple of years. You can find good stands along the edges where the logging stopped. The county foresters are usually pretty good to work with, regarding info about activities and timelines.

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Originally Posted by Macthediver
My son and I heading out Friday to my sister cottage. We have hunted from there for many years now with my brother and couple others. Back in September the piece of county woods we hunt was marked for clear cutting. The tree I actually lock my seat on has been marked as has the whole area our group hunts. I've shot 5 deer from that spot and before that it was my older brother stand..My brother checked with the county and someone did place a bid to cut that woods.. So having not been there for couple weeks we aren't sure our woods won't be buzzing with skidders and cutters, We are all hopping they don't get started working until after deer season. Then for next year for sure we will have to scout new place to be. Just one of them things have to deal with on public land. My original stand in that area was cut over after tornado went threw, That was 11 years ago and they salvaged cut all that. It's now young pines so thick can hardly walk in there..


Mac



We had more deer movement at our gun club after it was logged then before. The deer will love the new growth. Sure, the patterns will change, but don't count that property out at all.

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Yahoo can’t wait for all city folk to come up, drink and drive like.
There is no repercussions and shoot Bambi hung over the next day and
Be bragging about it by noon Saturday. This coming week is one of the most
Annoying weeks of the year. Lots of small bucks will get shot and does will
Get wiped out on the public land bc there handing out doe tags like they do
Welfare. Yuck.
Sorry to sound pessimistic but wi rifle season is a joke. Hopefully the rut will be wound down and
Some of the young deer will make it.



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Well, maybe you should help the rest of us set a good example to those who don't get it.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: NE Wildlife] #6668874
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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
Yahoo can’t wait for all city folk to come up, drink and drive like.
There is no repercussions and shoot Bambi hung over the next day and
Be bragging about it by noon Saturday. This coming week is one of the most
Annoying weeks of the year. Lots of small bucks will get shot and does will
Get wiped out on the public land bc there handing out doe tags like they do
Welfare. Yuck.
Sorry to sound pessimistic but wi rifle season is a joke. Hopefully the rut will be wound down and
Some of the young deer will make it.

Forgot about Friday night "sighting in"


Ill be hunting but not till Wednesday 27th. Still hunting along the Pike or one of its creeks.

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Ill be hunting but not till Wednesday 27th. Still hunting along the Pike or one of its creeks.[/quote]

Sounds like a good plan. Nice country up and over there. Hunted grouse south of there in the Benson Lake Road neighborhood years ago.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: k snow] #6668898
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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by Macthediver
My son and I heading out Friday to my sister cottage. We have hunted from there for many years now with my brother and couple others. Back in September the piece of county woods we hunt was marked for clear cutting. The tree I actually lock my seat on has been marked as has the whole area our group hunts. I've shot 5 deer from that spot and before that it was my older brother stand..My brother checked with the county and someone did place a bid to cut that woods.. So having not been there for couple weeks we aren't sure our woods won't be buzzing with skidders and cutters, We are all hopping they don't get started working until after deer season. Then for next year for sure we will have to scout new place to be. Just one of them things have to deal with on public land. My original stand in that area was cut over after tornado went threw, That was 11 years ago and they salvaged cut all that. It's now young pines so thick can hardly walk in there..


Mac



We had more deer movement at our gun club after it was logged then before. The deer will love the new growth. Sure, the patterns will change, but don't count that property out at all.



k snow
Yep I know we will all survive the cutting have for years now. The piece we hunt is 2X3 mile square and we have hunted that same piece since the mid 1970s..Back then I moved 3 times due to the way they cut it in different patterns. In fact where we are now is because the place we started in 70s was clear cut so we moved to east side. That piece is actually grown up now and maybe where we move back to once this piece we are on is cut? I may just have to move across the big marsh I sit along now. Other side of marsh was cut several years ago..There is another group of guys though that are on other side of the marsh.. We'll figure it out all ways do. May just have to sit closer to the edge of the pines they planted on the storm cut. That is kind of what we doing now. They just decided it was time to cut all older growth all the way around the 10 year old storm cut.

Mac


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I forgot about Friday night sight in. Truck loads of corn when there is no baiting in the surrounding
3 counties lol my parents have a supper club/ small bar up here so I got the full effect of the shackers
Growing up. Can still go there on the Friday night of opener and see the same people from 20 years ago
Telling the same Stories at the bar. I don’t mind people coming up north. Deer season just hosts a lot of rude
Folks from southern wi and Illinois that are on a care free bing when there up here.
Good luck to all the hunters this coming week, be safe and Respect the north woods.



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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
I forgot about Friday night sight in. Truck loads of corn when there is no baiting in the surrounding
3 counties lol my parents have a supper club/ small bar up here so I got the full effect of the shackers
Growing up. Can still go there on the Friday night of opener and see the same people from 20 years ago
Telling the same Stories at the bar. I don’t mind people coming up north. Deer season just hosts a lot of rude
Folks from southern wi and Illinois that are on a care free bing when there up here.
Good luck to all the hunters this coming week, be safe and Respect the north woods.


Understand your disgust and frustration. We all see this around the state. Probably has been this way for many years.

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Last year I went to a local church on Friday night before the opener for a hunters stew supper. I got the squirts so bad I missed opening morning.

I don't think I will have any stew this year

WS

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Originally Posted by Whopper Stopper
Last year I went to a local church on Friday night before the opener for a hunters stew supper. I got the squirts so bad I missed opening morning.

I don't think I will have any stew this year

WS

I had to LOL when I read this. Sorry my friend!


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I thought I would add some eye candy to add to the excitement. This was from last year.


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Looking pretty warm for the opener, then cruddy mid-week.

Here's to hoping We get it done opening weekend.

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Nice buck! Seen on the weather channel that there might be a big snow storm coming before Thanksgiving.


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1 to 1 1/2 inches of rain Wednesday and Thursday now. 31 o for high on Friday hopefully stiffens the rain and mud up a little bit. 9 days of woods, and family. Happy Happy

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Forecast here for Thursday is 1" of rain so looks like a soggy start on Saturday.


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The ground up by us has been frozen for 2 weeks in Langlade county, and the forecast is for less than half an inch of rain Wednesday day then cooling down some Thursday night. Hoping to get out ice fishing again on Friday so I'm not tempted to be out in the woods. We had 4.5 inches on a nearby lake last Friday.

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The deer kill Is going to way down In Rock Dane and Iowa counties this year. Thousands of acres of standing corn and It's not going to be harvested till late Dec. First few shots and all the deer will be In the corn.


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I think you are right Beav. There is standing corn almost everywhere.


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Same in Chippewa and Taylor as well Beav.

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Throw La Crosse County on that list. With the rain they are predicting I doubt any more will get but.

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You guys got to drive them corn fields with mass of guys, get them big bucks moving.. No chance for any accidental shootings doing that. Right?
Have seen some nice bow shot deer shot doing STALK and sneak in corn field..Much safer..

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Drives are like guns, they aren't dangerous, if done correctly. Pushers don't shoot. Posters have very specific shooting areas. Identify target before shooting.

I can just imagine 3 guys stalking through 8 foot corn watching for deer. Some body could get shot just as easy in that scenario.

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Probably wouldn't get shot In corn field but you might get lost LOL
The corn rows In our fields around here are pretty tight and you would have a tough time just walking through them. And how do you drive a 200 acre corn field?


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I think there was a hunting incident in Michigan over the weekend where one a guy shot his brother in a cornfield while they were tracking a wounded deer.

I've done some cornfield drives before, like others have said they can be safe if done properly. No guns for the drivers and safe lanes of fire for the shooters. We had a few fields around here getting harvested over the weekend because of the cold weather it must have frozen just enough to get in and out.

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Yep, there is a lot of standing corn, and will be through the deer seasons.
With the cooler, wet fall, the corn hasn't dried down as it usually does, and many farmers are not wanting to spend any more money on propane to dry it down than they have to. Desired moisture levels before combining the corn is 15% or less, I've heard that moisture levels are averaging around 25 %. That's a lot of LP.

Back in the Fall of 1985, we had so much rain that over half of the corn in WI stood in the fields all winter. Deer hunting was more challenging that year.....looks like we will have a similar situation again this year.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6671530
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Will be checking wind direction opening morning and then deciding which stand to hunt behind the house. Was fortunate to harvest a nice 10pt during archery season and have a few bucks on camera that might be worth taking, need to see in person. Have a few anterless tags to fill too. Weather looks nice for opener!

Good Luck and be safe!

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Nice one Alex congratulations! Lot of hot dogs there.. grin

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Headed out tomorrow afternoon to set up blinds. Lots of corn still standing all around the farm. Aunt and Uncle haven't seen many deer outside the corn. Might be a slow year.

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Originally Posted by Macthediver
Nice one Alex congratulations! Lot of hot dogs there.. grin

Mac


Thanks Mac! Got into the stand late with hopes of filling an anterless tag, did not see a deer until 30 minutes from closure when he came thru feeding. Wind was in my face and he never knew I was there. I guess you spend enough time in the woods and get lucky once in a while!

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Nice looking buck Dave!

Safe travels to all who are leaving tonight or heading out tomorrow.

Good luck Saturday.

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Originally Posted by k snow
Headed out tomorrow afternoon to set up blinds. Lots of corn still standing all around the farm. Aunt and Uncle haven't seen many deer outside the corn. Might be a slow year.


voice drive time , to get them moving.

good luck

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Where we hunt in a national forest there never is or are any crop changes or slow harvests etc. Not as many deer or hunters anymore but we enjoy the larger woods experience even though we don't eat as much venison. This year the change will be is that any and all low spots will be very, very wet and not frozen either. That won't change deer patterns much but sure will change mine a bit.

Bryce

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I was out scouting some today , hip boots are going to be necessary to reach many places , scouting higher ground tomorrow.


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Wishing everyone a safe and successful hunt!
Heading up to Ladysmith this morning- my son has a bobcat tag so he will make some sets that he can check on the way to his stand this week and I'll make some fisher sets, might drop a few weasel boxes in along the way also.
Good Luck Everyone

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Good luck everyone and be safe. Just got back from CO with a nice 6x6. I'm going to take my father out in the glorified tower that everyone makes fun of. Not really interested in shooting whitetail, but will enjoy the time I have left with Dad. He enjoys just shooting pictures anymore and thats fine by me.


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Got another decent public land buck today!
Hope it went well for those out!

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Not enough signal to post pics but The Boy was in the stand with me again this year and picked out a doe this afternoon that came into the stand and I shot it at 17 paces from the stand he pulled it out of the woods for us (about 150 yards) and we gutted it in the field then he drug it to the cabin. Mostly down hill but I was impressed with his enthusiasm for the job as the deer weighed 120lbs and he goes 65 with a full stomach. He didnt want me to help but I insisted as the pull about stopped on any rise in terrain but he did it for the most part by himself and I for one am proud of his effort. Tomorrow he says we will get our buck, lol. Good luck and stay safe out there everyone!!!


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Congratulations deerfly that is a nice looking buck!
Was a decent day for me with seeing three doe opening morning and no clear shot. Then in the evening an adult doe with two buck fawns I elected to pass with hopes a buck would be following. 20 minutes later I think the neighbor shot her. Oh well back in the stand in a few hours.
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We are back from our day and a half in the National Forest. Was in the woods 10 hours Saturday and 4.5 Sunday. Heard 2 shots within a mile of me and we saw sign but no deer. Weather was great so one could sit all day and with it being 22 Sat.AM and 30 Sunday AM the leaves crackled like H so still hunting was out. Very, very limited hunters both days. Did have two groups drive sections of the forest right near us. About 7-8 in each group but never heard any shooting. We totally miscalculated about the high water. Yes there was water every where but froze hard enough to walk on it so we did not need the higher rubber boots. Changed up to the better boots to keep our feet warm. Flushed or heard lots of grouse and am seeing way more grey squirrels where I used to see red squirrels.

Home safe and that is a good thing. Time to turn on the football game.

Bryce

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Originally Posted by bblwi
We are seeing way more grey squirrels where I used to see red squirrels.

Home safe and that is a good thing. Time to turn on the football game.

Bryce

Thats interesting.

How has the habitat and environment change?


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6674826
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I finally have something worthwhile to contribute to this thread. Shot a really nice doe just before last light tonight. She weighed 160 pounds live weight and came in with another doe and 2 fawns.

Besides me we had 7 other hunters in camp hunting all or most of the day both Saturday and Sunday and none saw a live deer during legal shooting hours. But still a fun time in our camp. I'm the 5th generation there and hopefully it goes another 5 generations at least.

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I will offer some of my thoughts on why there may be a change in species, but remember this is just based on being in the woods in this reason only since the mid 1980s and that is a not even the life span of an aspen tree.

Bryce

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More acres of standing corn around here than woods. Been a very difficult hunt so far and doesn't look like much hope for the corn harvest before the season ends. Should be more deer next year if there's a bright side to this. Good luck to you all.


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Saw 20 deer all does. Killed one and know I'm done .


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Originally Posted by The Beav
Saw 20 deer all does. Killed one and know I'm done .


Sounds like an exciting hunt. That story kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time.
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Set camp in the river bottoms Thursday. Took care of getting stands ready Friday. Noted the area had been under water most of the summer. Sat in the tree stand 'til 10:30 Saturday morning, saw no deer. Mini drive to a buddy down a finger in the swamp, pushed no deer. Lunch at camp, noted the river was coming up fast, real fast. Got a hold of Susan, asked how the hydrograph at Muscoda looked. She said it's going up. We had water within a vertical foot of the tent. Thursday when we set camp it was within 3 feet vertically.

Stuck a stick at the water's edge and we broke camp Saturday afternoon. By 3:00 the water had gained 2" vertically. Back to the landing by 4:00. Fella from Iowa was there, said he paid $80 for an out of state license which also gave him 3 doe tags. Said blue tongue had ravaged the deer herd near where he normally hunted. Said more than likely it's hit here too as evidenced by little sign. I'd have to agree. Kickapoo River Valley was the scene of 100+ dead deer found awhile back. Who knows how many in the weeds.

Very few shots heard Saturday. Dunno. Might be time to relocate deer camp for 2020. Have hunted this same area since '86. High water the last two years. Seems to be the new norm.

View from my stand Saturday morning. Sure was nice out there.

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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Set camp in the river bottoms Thursday. Took care of getting stands ready Friday. Noted the area had been under water most of the summer. Sat in the tree stand 'til 10:30 Saturday morning, saw no deer. Mini drive to a buddy down a finger in the swamp, pushed no deer. Lunch at camp, noted the river was coming up fast, real fast. Got a hold of Susan, asked how the hydrograph at Muscoda looked. She said it's going up. We had water within a vertical foot of the tent. Thursday when we set camp it was within 3 feet vertically.

Stuck a stick at the water's edge and we broke camp Saturday afternoon. By 3:00 the water had gained 2" vertically. Back to the landing by 4:00. Fella from Iowa was there, said he paid $80 for an out of state license which also gave him 3 doe tags. Said blue tongue had ravaged the deer herd near where he normally hunted. Said more than likely it's hit here too as evidenced by little sign. I'd have to agree. Kickapoo River Valley was the scene of 100+ dead deer found awhile back. Who knows how many in the weeds.

Very few shots heard Saturday. Dunno. Might be time to relocate deer camp for 2020. Have hunted this same area since '86. High water the last two years. Seems to be the new norm.

View from my stand Saturday morning. Sure was nice out there.

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Eagles.

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Ok I am back to civilization and can post pics. The Boy and I didnt see a buck but saw 15 deer so it was fun. I let him bring the 410 for a walk and he got his first grouse before our yearly camp photo. He will be able to shoot deer next year so this was a good learning experience hiking with a gun he was very good but being 8 tired out quickly
I dont think we sat in a stand he didnt nap in. He also got 2 red squirrels by the cabin so that's great as everyone knows they reak havoc on the buildings. Great weekend!!!

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Muskrat that stinks about the high water. Do you really think its blue tongue or just the water being up and not enough food that's pushed them out?


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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
Muskrat that stinks about the high water. Do you really think its blue tongue or just the water being up and not enough food that's pushed them out?


100+ dead deer confirmed blue tongue found nearby in Kickapoo River Valley. Nobody really knows the numbers. We've hunted this area in high water before and taken deer. Just not this high this quick.

The bean counters should have a handle on numbers in Madison soon. That should give us some idea of the relative numbers per county.

Nice pics by the way. I remember dozing while Dad was hunting back when. Precious pictures.

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When I see the pic with the tree up turned by the root ball. It looks like lots of places here along the river. Constant high water this summer when the storms came threw. Made it easy for the wind to push over lot of trees on the islands, their roots now sticking up.. Summer long high water has really took a tole on some of the islands. River here was on it's way down, but is once again headed back up. Can't seem to catch a break and get back to normal..

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Ain't that the truth. More rain tonight and snow up north. River will push up again. In La Crosse this morning, will take the river road south to PDC. See if it takes more than 2 hands to count 'rat huts.

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Hunted three days, saw 0 deer during legal hours. Only heard a dozen shots between saturday and sunday. Very little deer sign on the farm this year.

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That blue tongue may solve our lack of ability to get a handle on our CWD and it may work like distemper in some other species. Come in and clean things out and then let the population come back. Not a nice way to solve an issue but nature finds ways when man wants to live in the socio/political world.

Bryce

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Here is my opening weekend report for our parcel in SW Manitowoc County.

Saturday morning 3 doe around 7:30am, no activity and left stand at 9AM to tend to some plumbing issues by my parents. Back in stand Saturday evening at 2:30pm. 3:30pm had a doe with twin buck fawns come in from down-wind and elected to pass hoping for a buck to follow. 20 minutes later heard neighbor to the West shoot once, this is where the deer were heading when last seen. No activity after that.
Here is a video of the three:
https://youtu.be/zpkNeXfsp0U

Sunday morning nothing by me, two shots from neighbor to the immediate South. Left stand at 9:45am. Set out two dozen coon traps and two otter sets. Back in stand at 3pm. 3:30pm had medium doe trot thru with a small buck harassing her. 4:25pm had a doe and single fawn come in and harvested her at 15yds.
Video of the little buck after the doe went thru: https://youtu.be/bOst_ZEtnS4

Don't plan to get back out until Wednesday afternoon. Have a buddy coming out tonight for rest of the season and having a niece's husband come hunt Wednesday night / Thursday morning. See how things go.

Dave

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That's quite a drop. Curious to hear the "official" explanation.

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Standing corn is the only reason I can see in the farm country here in Sauk County. High water everywhere, I would guess there are folks who could not access areas they were used to in the low lands.
I saw 7 or 8 deer on Saturday and shot a small buck in the afternoon. Never saw a deer on Sunday, sure could not blame the weather, it was a pretty nice weekend here.

Zim

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Went outside Saturday morning and I saw a string of satellites all connected toghether. Thought I was going crazy until I ready this: https://www.space.com/see-spacex-starlink-satellites-in-night-sky.html


Took an 8 pointer about 7:20 but can't get the image to upload. Quiet opening weekend.


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Some of the rationale or reasons for lower first weekend harvest that I heard from the wildlife biologist are

1. A whole week later than last year. The latest that the opener can be and that moves the opener further away from the peak rut. Deer may be moving much less as the regather energy from the rut
2. Standing crops in much of the major farm country where most of the deer are harvested
3. Warm conditions which means people and animals don't need to move to keep warm
4. Abut 30-40,000 less licenses sold roughly so there are fewer hunters

Not part of the biologist's statements but we are seeing far, far fewer hunters in the national forest where we hunt. I would guess in the 6 square miles we are familiar with there is 1 maybe two hunters for every 10 there were 15 years ago. We also get a few groups of larger numbers that drive a couple square miles in two drives early on Saturday which is a real change that happened in the past Sunday afternoon.
Did flush and see as many grouse as I have seen hunting in several years.
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Nothing about blue tongue, eh?

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Something happened to the deer in Grant & Crawford counties. I say it's blue tongue as well. This year I went bowhunting 22 times. I hunt on private ground in southwest Grant county. I didn't see a deer in 9 of those trips. In 5 of the 13 other trips I saw 1 deer. That is unacceptable and not what I'm used to at all. I saw 6 bucks total and only 2 of those were over 1.5 years old. They were both I'm guessing 2.5 years old, nothing big. I shot one of them on November 14th, a 9 point. I'm happy with that and lucky to have gotten one.

I gun hunt as well and on Saturday I saw 3 deer total. 2 small bucks I passed on and a doe. On Sunday I saw 5 deer total. 1 small spike and 3 does and a fawn. I passed on the doe, fawn and spike.The other 2 does were on the move. I won't shoot a doe with the low number of deer I'm seeing. I also don't want to shoot a small buck. The only exception on that is if it's late and I don't have a deer yet. I walked my butt off Sunday probably around 3 miles or more. I also went Monday morning for a walk at a couple of spots and didn't see anything.
The deer aren't there period. I don't care what the DNR says. I talked to the neighboring landowner Sunday night and he didn't see much of anything either and agrees the deer aren't there.

This morning at work I talked to a guy who hunts in Crawford on private ground just outside of PDC. Their group got 2 bucks and he saw 1 doe. His sister who lives on the farm they hunt told him a while ago the deer disappeared over the summer and early fall.

The DNR can make up excuses all they want but the weather was nice for opening weekend. Temps were about perfect and no wind. The deer aren't there in the numbers they say. If they have 2 brain cells they should be worried. People that are on the fence about keeping on hunting aren't going to bother buying licenses when they don't see anything to keep them interested. The number of hunters is dropping and this isn't going to help.

Here's another thing I'll bring up. This year I had the deadest rut activity I can remember. I never saw a buck on a hot doe and never heard any hot doe being chased around the woods like I have other years. I saw 2 bucks following 2 different does but they were just following not right on her like she was in heat. Around here it was the rut that never happened. It makes me wonder if the does got bred. Also I take time off work and am in the woods a lot in late October and early November.

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Here is a nice comparison of opening weekends 2018 v. 2019: https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/wildlifehabitat/documents/deer_Prelim9day_2018v2019.pdf


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Badger23, have you had any trail cameras out? How was the activity on them?

I hunt northern Langlade county, no farmland within 15 miles, mostly hardwoods and hemlock swamps. So not exactly what I would call a habitat with a high carrying capacity for deer. This year we have had around 10 different bucks on camera, as well as a few different dow groups totalling around 8 or 9 antlerless deer. This all over an area around 160 acres at most.

We had 8 guys hunting most or all of the day Saturday and Sunday and I was the only one who saw any deer during legal shooting hours, one of the doe groups with 4 deer. If we didnt have trail cameras out, we would be thinking there are few if any deer around. Fact is it's a late season this year and lots of deer are hunkered down.

I don't get all the DNR bashing that goes on in Wisconsin. I've heard some griping from others about their state's equivalent of the DNR, but the vocal majority of Wisconsinites seem to have a hatred for the DNR and would never admit they ever did anything right. There was a whole thread on here not too long ago that went on for 3 or 4 pages of folks talking about all the regulation changes they would make in Wisconsin, and that's just trapping.

Every time the DNR makes a facebook post, no matter what it's about, there are always people commenting and complaining about one thing or another, whether it's related to the post or not. Almost every one of them is nothing more than an armchair biologist, with nothing more to back up their opinion than anecdotal evidence. "I hunted today and didn't see any deer. There must not be 2 million deer in the state."

I just don't get it. Rant over.

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my great aunt hosts deer camp most years , she was having heart issues , but is like a new woman now with her pace maker and new valve.

my great uncle her little brother had to be moved to hospice care about 6 weeks ago. he died last Tuesday.

my son and I had made plans to go with my sons friend's family and some of the other boys from school. untill the young man broke his arm Wednesday before opener so then none of the boys were going.

I haven't not headed up hunting on Friday in 18 years and that was for the anticipated birth of my oldest daughter who was born weeks later , man was Friday hard funnerl a ferw days away and everything I did made me think about my uncle who I have hunted 26 of the last 28 years with.

we made the best of it and went out locally Saturday , it was ok. we saw 2 deer my son had a shot but only through some very thick brush so he passed.

My great uncle's funeral was Monday and after the funeral at the dinner I was talking with some cousins , and my son and I were invited out with a cousin this morning.

well I was ecstatic my son was able to bag a buck at around 7:30 this morning. but my cousin said we should do a little drive he had a 20 acre woods that hadn't been driven this year so he drove it to the little hay field and I picked up a nice buck.

then we loaded the 2 bucks on the mini van for the drive home.


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Nothing about blue tongue, eh?


How many counties do you think were really impacted by it? Surely it is devastating in small pockets, but guessing not that many in the big picture?

I can see those other items having a bigger impact. We have lots of crops up here, but I was lucky enough to benefit from some standing beans that the farmer couldn't get to. Deer been pouring into them and the cut corn field, but the bucks have been white. Decided to shoot a doe this afternoon and there was still 8 in the field when I took the ranger out to pick it up. [Linked Image]

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I don't have any cameras, I've never had one. I'm going off previous years which total 37 previous years hunting the same land (250 acres) and area. Corn and bean fields all around it so plenty of habitat plus creeks running through the property. In my area the corn and beans are out. The other guys that hunt on this land also didn't see anything much and I talked to the one guys dad on Monday and he said his son saw 1 doe on Saturday. He didn't talk to him Sunday night. So it's not just me that didn't see much for deer activity. The neighbor that I talked to Sunday night said the same thing. Something changed here from last year to this year. And I'll take peoples word that are actually out and my time that I spend in the woods in October and November over someone who drives a desk for a living. The fact is my area has far less deer activity. I also stopped one day and talked to the township patrolman in early November that I know and asked him flat out if he's been seeing many deer and he said not many. He's got quite a bit of time driving these roads early morning and he wasn't seeing much either. On my 14 mile drive to and from the land I saw far fewer deer this year than I have in the past as well.

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https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/wildlifehabitat/disease.html

Apparently our corner of the state is at the tip of this outbreak. Obviously EHD/blue tongue isn't responsible for the drop in deer kill statewide. All the conditions offered above certainly factored into it. However, one needs to talk to folks who have "boots on the ground" in this area to get a feel for what's happening with the deer herd in southwestern WI. Time will tell. Dead does don't make babies.

Comparisons 2018 vs 2019 statewide county by county.

https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/wildlifehabitat/documents/deer_Prelim9day_2018v2019.pdf

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Those are huge percentage drops from last year to this year. That is NOT going to help sell more tags next year at all.

Bowhunting this year I saw very little daytime activity. There are far fewer deer hits on the roads around here this year as compared to last year.

Where I do see deer, I see lots of them, like herds of 6 to 10. Seems they herded up before the rut even started around here and have turned nocturnal.

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New this morning reporting that DNR said deer kill was probably down due to. Weather, standing corn crops, and how the Thanksgiving Holiday fell? Not sure about how that last one factors in. They said nothing about lower herd numbers anywhere in state. Only told which county had highest kill.


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Originally Posted by Macthediver
New this morning reporting that DNR said deer kill was probably down due to. Weather, standing corn crops, and how the Thanksgiving Holiday fell? Not sure about how that last one factors in. They said nothing about lower herd numbers anywhere in state. Only told which county had highest kill.


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Thanksgiving was very late this year, which means that most, if not all, rut activity was over by the time gun season got here.

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How many freezers have unreported deer in them? More than a few I'd wager. Not enough to account for a double digit drop in reported numbers, but does make one wonder how that honesty factor is working.

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Originally Posted by Muskrat
How many freezers have unreported deer in them? More than a few I'd wager. Not enough to account for a double digit drop in reported numbers, but does make one wonder how that honesty factor is working.


I'm sure that plays in a bit, but 25 to 30 percent pretty much statewide? I think there is something else going on, most likely a number of factors.

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Those of us who hunt public lands have a whole different hunting experience than those who own/access private property. A significant drop in deer numbers county wide does not translate into equal numbers on private vs public lands. No solution in sight. It is what it is.

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I hunt private land, and saw 0 deer during daylight. The land I hunt is near Mad city, so there a lot of non-huntable acres that the deer can occupy.

Not all private land is loaded with deer. Not all public land is void of deer.

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Don't you have 5 days to register your deer? How can they come up with those figures from opening week end.


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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Those of us who hunt public lands have a whole different hunting experience than those who own/access private property. A significant drop in deer numbers county wide does not translate into equal numbers on private vs public lands. No solution in sight. It is what it is.


I'm one them like you hunts public land..Total deer seen for 3 days in woods including the buck I shot Saturday morning was 3.. Saturday I saw and shot the buck no other deer seen rest of the day. Sunday two deer and Monday none. There are 5 of us in the group and it was pretty much the same for all of us..Two guys seen none on Saturday my son who was couple hundred yards to north of me saw just a glimpse of the deer I shot..
Pretty sad in our woods and also very quiet. Even though there were two or 3 other small groups in same piece woods..

Anyone who has never hunted what they now call Central Forest land wouldn't understand it.. Even though I live in what is now the big buck farm land area. I've hunted my whole life in that Jackson, Clark County forest land.. Trust me it has changed a great deal in my 60 some years playing and hunting there.


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Originally Posted by k snow
I hunt private land, and saw 0 deer during daylight. The land I hunt is near Mad city, so there a lot of non-huntable acres that the deer can occupy.

Not all private land is loaded with deer. Not all public land is void of deer.


Very true.
I saw 20 some deer on opening morning I filled my tag but only 2 of those deer were shootabale. Private land.

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Originally Posted by The Beav
Don't you have 5 days to register your deer? How can they come up with those figures from opening week end.


Not 5 days. Must be registered by 5pm the day after the harvest.

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Originally Posted by k snow
Not 5 days. Must be registered by 5pm the day after the harvest.


Stupid rule. Only for the bean counters. If you're in the "way backs" camped or in a cabin and out of cell phone range you just became a violater. Or you waste hunting time Sunday trying to find cell phone reception if you get a deer Saturday.

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Well I tried every thing possible but I couldn't get It registered. Until Mon when I had to actually call the DNR and go through the process.


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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Originally Posted by k snow
Not 5 days. Must be registered by 5pm the day after the harvest.


Stupid rule. Only for the bean counters. If you're in the "way backs" camped or in a cabin and out of cell phone range you just became a violater. Or you waste hunting time Sunday trying to find cell phone reception if you get a deer Saturday.



If you like me I just dang near plain forgot, did it early Sunday morning before going in back in woods.. Would have been easy to just say well deer is home why even bother..I've would never do that but I'm sure some do.

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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Originally Posted by k snow
Not 5 days. Must be registered by 5pm the day after the harvest.


Stupid rule. Only for the bean counters. If you're in the "way backs" camped or in a cabin and out of cell phone range you just became a violater. Or you waste hunting time Sunday trying to find cell phone reception if you get a deer Saturday.


No argument here about that. Just add that to the long list of rules that make little or no sense.

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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Setting up deer camp Thursday. Should have the woodstove purring, the Coleman lanterns humming and the cribbage board pegging by sundown. Put in a few mink sets for fun Friday morning and get stands ready in the afternoon. Good luck and be safe out there.

I saw ya down at millville landing, guessing thats the area your camping! old fella i talked to said yall left with a boat load and was worried about you, told him you do it all the time! hopefully yall had some luck or at least a good time

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Had a good time for sure. But it was cut short. stayed in my stand till 11 Saturday morning, did a mini drive towards one of my buddies, and return to camp for lunch. River had come up within a vertical foot of the tent. And was rising. We broke camp and got out of there. First time since 86 I had to break camp before we got wet. Last year the area was already flooded and we hunted in a different location.

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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Had a good time for sure. But it was cut short. stayed in my stand till 11 Saturday morning, did a mini drive towards one of my buddies, and return to camp for lunch. River had come up within a vertical foot of the tent. And was rising. We broke camp and got out of there. First time since 86 I had to break camp before we got wet. Last year the area was already flooded and we hunted in a different location.


Maybe try hunting from a canoe? I've seen several deer along the banks of rivers while checking traps. Some times they just look at you funny, some run, others just walk away.

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Wolves moved in by us. Out of 11 guys we got zero bucks and passed up maybe 20 does. We found the remains of 2 wolf kills and sighted 5 different wolves. Right now we have a foot of wet snow with 25 mph winds and still snowing. This is the worst season ever and I've been doing it for over 50 years. Enough whining. Time to put on the knee brace and snowblow a path to the downed tree blocking the driveway. cry

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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by Muskrat
Had a good time for sure. But it was cut short. stayed in my stand till 11 Saturday morning, did a mini drive towards one of my buddies, and return to camp for lunch. River had come up within a vertical foot of the tent. And was rising. We broke camp and got out of there. First time since 86 I had to break camp before we got wet. Last year the area was already flooded and we hunted in a different location.


Maybe try hunting from a canoe? I've seen several deer along the banks of rivers while checking traps. Some times they just look at you funny, some run, others just walk away.


That works. Have used the technique several times, but prefer a lightweight Jon boat.

You can conduct successful "mini" drives with 2 or 4 hunters leapfrogging down a river. With two, check wind for best side to drive, then drop one off on the bank and quietly row/paddle down 200 yards or so. Pull boat up on bank, take a stand offering good view of river upstream and into the woods along the bank upstream. Dropped off hunter begins still hunting towards the boat. Good technique.

With four hunters you drop off two, one on each bank, go down the river, standers on each side.

We've done this on several rivers down here. Good later season technique when most hunters have found the couch and the deer have somewhat settled down.

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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by The Beav
Don't you have 5 days to register your deer? How can they come up with those figures from opening week end.


Not 5 days. Must be registered by 5pm the day after the harvest.


I believe it is by 5pm the day after the animal is recovered so that could lead to two days after it being shot when the recovery is made the following day.

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Correct, Alex, the reg's use the word "recovered."

Muskrat, sounds like a fun way to hunt. I can see a jon boat being somewhat more stable for that.

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I did the canoe hunt thing for a season in the forest when it was very warm for the opener. Got the canoe in at about 5 AM and paddled the 3/4 of a mile to a big beaver dam where I had seen lots of sign. Got organized and out and when I got to where I planned to sit there was a guy already there. He had come in about 1/2 mile from the logging road. Got in the canoe and paddled to the other side and as I touched the shore a hunter flashed his flashlight 3 times. He came in off a logging road about 3/4 of a mile! So I paddle back and found a place to hunt. That was 20 odd years ago when there were many hunters in the area. Might be doable now. I always pictured in my mind those photos one sees of a guy paddling a canoe with a buck on board. Just never worked out for me.

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Originally Posted by bblwi
I did the canoe hunt thing for a season in the forest when it was very warm for the opener. Got the canoe in at about 5 AM and paddled the 3/4 of a mile to a big beaver dam where I had seen lots of sign. Got organized and out and when I got to where I planned to sit there was a guy already there. He had come in about 1/2 mile from the logging road. Got in the canoe and paddled to the other side and as I touched the shore a hunter flashed his flashlight 3 times. He came in off a logging road about 3/4 of a mile! So I paddle back and found a place to hunt. That was 20 odd years ago when there were many hunters in the area. Might be doable now. I always pictured in my mind those photos one sees of a guy paddling a canoe with a buck on board. Just never worked out for me.

Bryce



I was thinking more of shooting from the canoe/boat. Obviously you couldn't have a motor. I've seen quite a few deer right along the water's edge when paddling.

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I have killed 10 deer out of a boat. All during the bow season.
Set up 30 yards from a major deer crossing (small streams) and fill your tags.


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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by bblwi
I did the canoe hunt thing for a season in the forest when it was very warm for the opener. Got the canoe in at about 5 AM and paddled the 3/4 of a mile to a big beaver dam where I had seen lots of sign. Got organized and out and when I got to where I planned to sit there was a guy already there. He had come in about 1/2 mile from the logging road. Got in the canoe and paddled to the other side and as I touched the shore a hunter flashed his flashlight 3 times. He came in off a logging road about 3/4 of a mile! So I paddle back and found a place to hunt. That was 20 odd years ago when there were many hunters in the area. Might be doable now. I always pictured in my mind those photos one sees of a guy paddling a canoe with a buck on board. Just never worked out for me.

Bryce



I was thinking more of shooting from the canoe/boat. Obviously you couldn't have a motor. I've seen quite a few deer right along the water's edge when paddling.


If you're hunting by yourself you do use a motor. Once you're downstream and done, you fire the motor up and head back to the landing.

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My son and I did two push drives through two patches of woods about 10 acres each. We did not move any deer and in two hours heard two shots on T Day. Today I was making 3 gingerbread houses with my 3 granddaughters! That was a 6 hour deal but we had a good time and they enjoyed going shopping for all the candies to stick on. My son still hunted a 30 acre public piece and no hunters and no deer moved this afternoon. I chose to do the gingerbread deal instead of drive the 200 miles to hunt up north with all the weather we have had and will have.

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Well boys - the traditional 9 day gun deer season is over. Hard weather conditions across the state on the last weekend - torrential rains, sleet, and snow. I have a feeling the overall kill will be way down. The good news is a lot of bucks will make it through so they will be bigger next year.

Hope everyone had a safe, satisfying season.

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Yes one typically does not wish the season to pass but this was the season where the "perfect storm" is probably a good description of the multitude of elements that factored into what for me was a forgettable hunt. I am getting used to eating "vegetarian stew" but I have almost always had A-HAH moments or aspects that one relates in future times but there was a real absence of those for me this year.

Can't say much for trapping weather either however.

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Most of the guys in our camp headed home Saturday afternoon to beat the storm home. My dad stuck around to plow one last time after the snow that came overnight. Glad I didnt have to try and make that 2 hour drive home today. Would've been white knuckle for sure.

I agree, kill will be way down. It was down 27% after opener when most of the deer are killed, then 2 major snow events in the 2md half of the season. Weather looks good for muzzleloader season though! May try and get out for the late antlerless season to put one more in the freezer, but my focus is quickly shifting to ice fishing.

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Filled my tag with a spike buck in the last 15 minutes of the season today. Was really regretting passing up 20+ does early in the season. Dragging the deer out of the swamp through 18 inches of snow was exhausting even with an otter sled. At 68 years old I need to have a better plan. Next year I will shoot a doe the first weekend when I have help. Out of 12 guys 2 small bucks were taken including this one. We had numerous bucks on trail cams preseason. Where they disappear to is a mystery.

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I decided to wait to fill my last antlerless tag with the bow even though I had plenty of opportunities last night. Never could catch up to a buck this year that I was interested in. First year that I saw more white bucks than brown ones from the gun stand, but that was just because I only saw one brown buck all gun season. [Linked Image]

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I'd call this a successful hunt great time with The Boy in the stand. He sure is excited about getting his chance to hunt deer next year.
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Overall kill down 14%. Local news story: https://fox11online.com/sports/deer-hunt/dnr-total-2019-wisconsin-deer-kill-down-14

County by County, Season by Season breakdown for those who are interested in the data:
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Yep late start to rifle season and bad weather. Still lots of deer according to WDNR

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I harvested and registered 2 deer but really had to work hard for them. Heard from others that stated why even register them, we didn't! Makes you wonder how many other hunters fail to register the harvest or register their first bow kill deer but skip the rest! Just my opinion!

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In the grand scheme of things, I don't think it really matters if every hunter registers their deer. I for one will always register every one I get, but if even 10% of people don't, that's still fewer deer than get shwacked by cars every year. I don't condone it, but I dont think it's nearly as common as some people claim or fear it is.

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Ok would be willing to bet at the very low end 30% don’t get registered. It is a huge amount.



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Any evidence, any at all, to back that claim up? What do you "bet" it was when in person registration was required?

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

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if there are so many they should just make the tags good till March 31 and close season when quota is met for a county.


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I keep hearing about the huge number of non registered deer. Yet everyone I know and communicate with reliably register. And for just me, that is a quite a few hunters. I don't buy the numbers claimed.

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If there were or are nearly 2 million deer in WI and we kill about 300K per year we will not lower the population, especially in the highly productive areas where deer numbers are already above desired carrying capacities.
Another issue with many deer not being registered is that we lose track of the sex and age aspect of the herd. We have about 6 or more different deer hunting seasons with a very lose registration policy so we don't know which hunting method has the highest percentage of non registered deer. What we can anticipate from poorer data or less data is more range or variability in the hunting outcomes or success rates. I can remember in the 1980s and 1990s the DNR would estimate the number of deer harvested based on the data and information they collected. There were factors for weather etc. included and there were many seasons when their estimates were far less then 5% of their estimate. Today we can't even get to 25% and with the actions that we have taken we won't get more accurate until we can develop a statistical method that includes all the changes we have made in the seasons, methods and recordings. We also have to weigh the factor of how valuable is accuracy in managing a species? If not then we can just keep doing what we are doing. We also have to remember that lack of accuracy and or concern for accuracy can easily swing into other species, seasons and goals etc.

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The state believes they are north of 90% adherence to the registration requirement. Surveys and enforcement checks are how they feel like they have a good handle on it. That said, they didn't have any numbers on in person registration and adherence to that type of registration. That was in the deer hunting presentation to the NRB today. Tomorrow the board looks at possible changes. Might be a good meeting to listen to.


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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
I keep hearing about the huge number of non registered deer. Yet everyone I know and communicate with reliably register. And for just me, that is a quite a few hunters. I don't buy the numbers claimed.

Same here and I know a lot of hunters.

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If a hunter truly cares about hunting and wildlife management, they'll report their kills.

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For those that want to listen to the NRB meeting this morning. They will be talking deer. https://dnrmedia.wi.gov/main/Play/3...talog=9da0bb432fd448a69d86756192a62f1721


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For those that didn't watch, it sounds like there are going to be quite a few questions on the Conservation Congress spring questionnaire relating to deer. When you include department, NRB, and CC advisory questions, it includes everything from shortening Xbow season, extending rifle season to 16 days, moving rifle season earlier, possible simplification changes to antlerless tags and a few others. It will be interesting to see how the input breaks down this spring.


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Ah yes . . . the ol' simplification changes. Can't wait to see how my life will become even more . . simplified.

Maybe this is the year we simplify the colony trap regs?? Hmmmm . . .

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We have more deer than 30 years ago. We have more seasons and more methods to harvest and very easy and liberal opportunities to register or not register and no back tags etc. Yet we have fewer hunters. I believe that if we keep catering to those of us that have self centered reasons for seasons, methods and easy registration we actually are taking a lot away from the experience of the hunt from my perspective. Based on the harvest statistics we have done a very good job in managing the deer herd on our 2-3 million acres of public land and in some places more deer would be appropriate. Now on the other 30 plus million acres of privately owned land we can not in all due respect state that we are even close to managing those populations and we need to address the fact that as long as we choose to ignore or berate those that are working to create solid science to help manage those populations we never will. As hunter numbers decline there may well be some real significant ADC opportunities to make money harvesting deer at the expense of local, state and federal tax payers. Another form of subsidy we probably could avoid but are unwilling to do the needed work to get that done.

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If they extended the rifle season and took the week before rifle season away and Made the rifle
Season during the rut like stated in the article I read I wound sell my land and just hunt in another state.
I truly believe the number of hunters is declining because the hunting is so bad in so many areas.
Too many predators too many tags not enough deer on the public lands

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[Linked Image]

So, take the prime rut away from crossbow hunters. That will encourage more hunters to buy a license, huh? Thought we did away with tags? Simplification means tagging a crossbow shot deer killed during gun deer season with a gun tag? What??

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Doing away with management zones will simplify regulations?? Can't make this stuff up. Really???

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Oh, I don't think that will reenergize the gun season.

What we have here is a huge cluster#@$& in the making. Alienating all of the young, old and new hunters who have found success with the crossbow will only result in fewer licenses sold in the future.

Just tell me when I've got to wear blaze orange while trapping so I don't get shot whilst bent over checking a mink set in the waybacks.

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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Alienating all of the young, old and new hunters who have found success with the crossbow will only result in fewer licenses sold in the future.



I never understood why anyone would try to do this. In the business world, you embrace what the market wants. IMO, there are a few key trends. The current hunting public is getting older and folks gravitate towards bow hunting. So why not embrace it.

Create every incentive possible to get those aging gun hunters to pick up bow hunting. It has the ability to retain them as a long as possible. Better weather, less pressured deer, and way more places to go. The use of crossbows has the ability to attract new folks that would not have picked up bow hunting before, but not when the season is under attack every year.

Everyone is concerned about the shift in harvest of bucks from the gun season to bow season. Embrace it. Folks had no problem embracing the shift in harvest of bobcats from trapping to hunting. Folks vote with their dollars. The longer we fight this shift the more folks we force to walk away.

Any one have thoughts on how it could be made better?


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I'd be willing to bet the Wisconsin Bowhunters Association is behind the growing restrictions on crossbows. To the diehards, crossbows aren't bows.

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With my shoulders being the way they are, the crossbow IS my only bow of choice. Take hunting the rut away and I'm done bowhunting. Done bowhunting and I'm done buying a Patron's license. I'm sure I'm not alone in that mindset.

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It was NRB member Kaz that has pushed for Xbow restrictions and this is his latest push. WI Bow Hunters Association is right there with him. Like said previously let a good thing stay. Xbows have brought so many new participants in to the hunting community but that seems lost in the discussion.

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WE the Xbow hunters killed more bucks then the other archery group and they don't like it. The WI bow hunters think those bucks belong to them..
In just about 100% of the time your doctor will give you a pass so you will be able to use the Xbow no matter what the dick headed bow hunters say.


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I use a traditional compound bow and I plan to switch to a crossbow when that time arrives. Archery Season should be whatever method you desire, Long Bow, Recurve, Compound, or Crossbow.

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And we thing Washington is where all the dirty politics is played! Are we ignorant or apathetic? We call the ARs and the antis morons and ignorant and brainwashed and lets just say they are all those. How do we want to classify deliberate ways to take away rights when done by so called fellow outdoors persons? The lesson we should all learn here is that those with political motivations strive to get into those positions and they can and do impact all of us, it just matters I guess which egotistical demagogue we want to follow.

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we in WI no longer need a "pass" from the doctor now kids , women , over 65 and everyone else can just purchase a crossbow license or for a few dollars upgrade the standard archery license.

DNR says Deer need shot , sets numbers , we should hunt till we reach the numbers or get to spring.

bow hunters have lobbied for longer and longer season , the don't like extra gun season , they don't like xbow

the fact of the matter is they hang out looking for perfect antlers far to much and they need to put up or shut up on the numbers.

it is not effective to heard management to give 4 months to a method of harvest not putting up numbers.

I think a private lands only antler-less season Oct 15 to the 31 muzzle loader or just run Muzzle loader season till January 5, something to encourage numbers in high population areas. it does nothing if you give away unlimited free tags and people have one or two weeks of bad weather post rut to use them.


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It isn’t a matter of good or bad Weather or what season you put in place. We the private land owners around here
Will not use the Ridiculous amount of tags they give out to dwindle our deer herd away any farther. Everyone obviously has different opinions on population and how the season should be structured.
I personally would love to see wi have the rifle season the same time as Iowa but for 9 days straight after
The rut has dwindled down. But I would also like to see apr’s and a limited season on crossguns for people who aren’t disabled or over 65 and I would like to see registration back in person with attached tags.

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But If The WBA shortens the Xbow season then you will still be able to hunt during the regular archery season If your 65 or have a doctors pass. They can't take that away from you.

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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
. . . But I would also like to see apr’s and a limited season on crossguns for people who aren’t disabled or over 65 and I would like to see registration back in person with attached tags.


What's a crossgun?

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Yes 65 or older or disabled would have a regular archery license
Lol it has a scope and a trigger it’s a gun

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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
Yes 65 or older or disabled would have a regular archery license
Lol it has a scope and a trigger it’s a gun


Ah . . . elitist mentality.

So, a trigger release is technically not a trigger? Or it is a trigger? Then all of the bowhunters using trigger releases are actually using guns?

And if it had a peep sight instead of a scope then it would not be a gun? Or if a fella put a scope on a bow then it would become a gun?

Interesting.

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Lol you got it! I just think a able bodied person sitting in a box blind with a a crossgun shouldn’t be allowed
The same seasons as a archery hunter. Same reason to have a shorter and separate rifle season.



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it seems they are discussing a 19 day gun season as an option.


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I use a traditional compound bow and I plan to switch to a crossbow when that time arrives. Archery Season should be whatever method you desire, Long Bow, Recurve, Compound, or Crossbow.

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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
Lol you got it! I just think a able bodied person sitting in a box blind with a a crossgun shouldn’t be allowed
The same seasons as a archery hunter. Same reason to have a shorter and separate rifle season.


I think muzzle loader season should run parallel archery cross bow and we call the whole thing primitive. I think in one season we would reach harvest goals

if your on the ground you should wear an all orange hat or 50% blaze orange vest minimum in a stand a 144sq inches of orange on any public land.


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So my nine year old needs to be limited to October and late season archery because she uses a crossbow? I get folks infatuation with the shift in harvest but....

Shortening the crossbow season will have no impact on stopping the shift in harvest from gun to bow IMO. Take a look at the chart on page 8. https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Hunt/documents/WeaponUseReport.pdf

This shift in harvest started long before xbows and it really didn't change the trajectory once legalized. The only real shot it has to be successful is if continues to drive folks away from hunting, but then again, is it really successful? We just robbed Peter to pay Paul so compound bow hunters better be ready to give up some of their season too.

Take a look at page 9. Only 10,000 hunters bag two bucks a year. So if the vast majority only shoot one or less bucks a year, why wouldn't more folks shift to bow hunting since the season is longer, weather is nicer, and deer are moving more naturally. Compound bows have made huge strides and becoming proficient is pretty easy for folks that have the time and physical body strength. Plus, bow hunting plays well to gun hunters new found love of a sedentary lifestyle.


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Hunters need to quit arguing amongst themselves about things like this because there’s large amount of libtards in Madison and Milwaukee that would love to see a division in the hunting ranks. I’m referring to the choice of weapon during bow season. And btw. Me and my kids use long bow and recurves most of the time

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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
It isn’t a matter of good or bad Weather or what season you put in place. We the private land owners around here
Will not use the Ridiculous amount of tags they give out to dwindle our deer herd away any farther. Everyone obviously has different opinions on population and how the season should be structured.
I personally would love to see wi have the rifle season the same time as Iowa but for 9 days straight after
The rut has dwindled down. But I would also like to see apr’s and a limited season on crossguns for people who aren’t disabled or over 65 and I would like to see registration back in person with attached tags.


APR's stink and we don't need them here in WI. We are one of the better big hunting states and the history books prove it.


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I don't eat antlers.

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Originally Posted by Muskrat
I don't eat antlers.


They do in China- might help your shoulder and other stuff.

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muskrat and tlguy got this right


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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
Yes 65 or older or disabled would have a regular archery license
Lol it has a scope and a trigger it’s a gun


Most compounds have cross hair sights and release trigger so they are a gun as well.

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Originally Posted by Eagleye
Originally Posted by Muskrat
I don't eat antlers.


They do in China- might help your shoulder and other stuff.


Hmmm . . . haven't considered that. Thanks.

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You eat enough antler and about late September if you find yourself rubbing your head on door jams and other places you will know why! lol

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https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/...d2b2ddf-5bf0-5e0d-860f-3707adf12d85.html

I found it interesting that Greg Kazmierski the DNR Board member suggesting some of these changes owns an archery shop in Delafield, WI. Yes, Buck Rub Archery sells compound bows but the mainstay of their offerings are premium vertical bow brands. All things being equal, there is way more revenue and margin from selling a vertical bow compared to a compound - think about the value add of accessories and set-up alone. Are these proposed changes good for an environment of declining license sales and declining harvest reports or good for his business?

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I tend to think it is more productive to attack ideas and leave the people out of it.

Personally, I may not like his ideas, but I think Kaz's heart is in the right place. He sees the shift in harvest from gun to bow. He recognizes that ~600K buy a gun license and ~300K buy archery. If the 600K start to think they don't have a chance at a buck because the 300K already harvested 40+% of the antlered bucks before they can enter the woods, that could lead to a pretty big revenue gap in short order. As that percentage continues to climb, the sediment will grow so what's your solution?


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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
I tend to think it is more productive to attack ideas and leave the people out of it.

Personally, I may not like his ideas, but I think Kaz's heart is in the right place. He sees the shift in harvest from gun to bow. He recognizes that ~600K buy a gun license and ~300K buy archery. If the 600K start to think they don't have a chance at a buck because the 300K already harvested 40+% of the antlered bucks before they can enter the woods, that could lead to a pretty big revenue gap in short order. As that percentage continues to climb, the sediment will grow so what's your solution?


I would tend to agree on attacking the ideas- I also like to understand WIIFM... What's in it for me? That often drives the wrong behavior when you're looking a outcomes that can be self serving.
In my opinion, there are two paradigm shifts happening at the same time. Crossbow sales are up and the omnichannel shopping experience has gained a lot of traction. Using my vertical bow as an example, Mathews, not sold at retail, it’s a destination purchase from a dealer (not available at a big box retailer) and dealers must be a certain distance from one another to qualify. I go to an archery shop to make the purchase because set-up is also a key consideration when buying a vertical bow. I probably will add the following: peep, nocking loop, drop away rest, sight and maybe quiver, release and stabilizer. My bow is now the price of a Browning A Bolt. Tomorrow, I decide to buy a compound, Amazon becomes my first consideration because set-up is not a priority, I can buy a 10pt or Barnett with a bundle at a lower cost and sighting in, well within anyone’s skill set- is the only thing I need to do.
If I owned an archery shop that specializes in vertical bows and service after the sale- I’m now selling buggy whips.

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Originally Posted by Eagleye

I would tend to agree on attacking the ideas- I also like to understand WIIFM... What's in it for me? That often drives the wrong behavior when you're looking a outcomes that can be self serving.
In my opinion, there are two paradigm shifts happening at the same time. Crossbow sales are up and the omnichannel shopping experience has gained a lot of traction. Using my vertical bow as an example, Mathews, not sold at retail, it’s a destination purchase from a dealer (not available at a big box retailer) and dealers must be a certain distance from one another to qualify. I go to an archery shop to make the purchase because set-up is also a key consideration when buying a vertical bow. I probably will add the following: peep, nocking loop, drop away rest, sight and maybe quiver, release and stabilizer. My bow is now the price of a Browning A Bolt. Tomorrow, I decide to buy a compound, Amazon becomes my first consideration because set-up is not a priority, I can buy a 10pt or Barnett with a bundle at a lower cost and sighting in, well within anyone’s skill set- is the only thing I need to do.
If I owned an archery shop that specializes in vertical bows and service after the sale- I’m now selling buggy whips.


Of course none of us are greedy, it's only the other fellow that is greedy -- Milton Freedman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

While some good points, I tend to think that stuff is all noise. It doesn't get us any closer to understanding if there truly is a problem and if so, what needs to be done.

Look at the true concern that I highlighted above and I am truly curious to get your take.

I will add one more piece that may or may not be relevant. Take turkey hunting. The season framework was changed and divided the season into separate parts to disperse hunters. Today, thousands of available tags for later season go unpurchased. Is it because folks don't think it is worth their time to go out....all the birds have been harvested already or some other reason? What if gun hunters start following the turkey hunters lead and quit buying the later season tags? How much revenue will be lost?




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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
. . . As that percentage continues to climb, the sediment will grow so what's your solution?


How does one grow sediment?

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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
I tend to think it is more productive to attack ideas and leave the people out of it.

Personally, I may not like his ideas, but I think Kaz's heart is in the right place. He sees the shift in harvest from gun to bow. He recognizes that ~600K buy a gun license and ~300K buy archery. If the 600K start to think they don't have a chance at a buck because the 300K already harvested 40+% of the antlered bucks before they can enter the woods, that could lead to a pretty big revenue gap in short order. As that percentage continues to climb, the sediment will grow so what's your solution?



The assumption is most of the 600K gun hunters deer hunt primarily to shoot a buck. And the reason they don't see bucks during gun deer season is because the archers (and crossgunners for NE Wildlife) have already harvested 40+-% of them. Therefore, the DNR needs to limit the number of bucks shot by archers (and crossgunners for NE Wildlife) prior to gun deer season so the 600K will have something to shoot at.

But the archers who use crossbows (and crossguns for NE Wildlife) are more successful than archers who use inferior weapons but are still classified as bows (except for bowguns for those using a bow with a trigger release for NE Wildlife). Therefore, we must restrict the use of crossbows (and crossguns for NE Wildlife) during the prime time of the rut in November so not as many bucks will be killed so the 600K gun deer hunters will believe they will see more bucks in the woods come gun deer season.

Dang . . . pure genius! Now it all makes sense.

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Don't you think that the majority of gun hunters also hunt with either a bow or a cross bow. Every one I know does.


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Seeing how it’s about cash run the gun season during the rut. Really knock em off. Many happy hunters. Happy hunters recruit.

It would be cool to see the woods quiet before thanksgiving.

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Originally Posted by Muskrat

The assumption is most of the 600K gun hunters deer hunt primarily to shoot a buck.


It might be an assumption, but does it have merit? Look at participation in antlerless only seasons. Are folks voting with their time?

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Aw heck, just open November to weapon of choice and be done with it. Everybody will be happy and nobody will be happy. Just let me know when I've got to wear blaze orange (blaze pink for the Beav) whilst trapping.

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Originally Posted by The Beav
Don't you think that the majority of gun hunters also hunt with either a bow or a cross bow. Every one I know does.


I would have to check Gary, but I think it was between half and a third buy both licenses. But this is a big factor. Folks don't buy both unless they take up bow hunting at some point. Surprisingly, even with those folks buying two license, very few actually harvest two bucks a year (~10K)


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It's hard for me to quantify the significant advantage that a crossbow has over a vertical bow, most crossbow hunters I know are good deer hunters- that's the true advantage.
Here's a quick read.
https://www.bowhunting.com/bowhunt101/crossbow-vs-vertical-bow/

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Originally Posted by nimzy
Seeing how it’s about cash run the gun season during the rut. Really knock em off. Many happy hunters. Happy hunters recruit.

It would be cool to see the woods quiet before thanksgiving.



Right now state statue dictates the gun season start the Saturday before Thanksgiving. Doesn't mean it isn't possible, just adds another level of difficulty to accomplish.

You also bring up a good point about other user groups. We saw that a little last year with snowmobilers and later deer hunts. Trappers have been having access issues until the festivities are over as well.


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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Aw heck, just open November to weapon of choice and be done with it. Everybody will be happy and nobody will be happy. Just let me know when I've got to wear blaze orange (blaze pink for the Beav) whilst trapping.


I have to agree with that statement.

There is no easy solution, and it seems like everyone will lose and nobody will win.

I love fall turkey hunting, and hate having to wear blaze orange while doing it.

I like the idea posted earlier about a primitive weapons season from sept thru december, bow and muzzleloader, no blaze required. The a regular 9 day with blaze orange, or pink, whatever.

I bow hunt and gun hunt, long bow, flintlock and 30-30 or scoped 06. I want to shoot meat. Antlers don't matter either way. First deer that offers me an ethical shot gets killed. Don't preach to me about trophy management.

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What do we want the deer seasons in WI to accomplish?

Do we want the harvest of deer to be keyed mostly to manage the herd size and numbers and provide as good of sporting opportunities that we can?

Or do we want the hunt to be heavily favored for the sport of hunting and let deer herd management fall by the wayside?

In the past say 50 years ago the seasons we had seemed to accomplish quite well both of those and over the last decades we have moved away from both and we have significant lack of trust in the science and we are finding that politics causes the sporting aspect of the hunt and harvest to be tainted as well.
We read hundreds of posts on this forum and others about how the youth are being coddled to and there are awards for participation and also we can't have failure because it will ruin the youth's self-esteem. Now let us move that to the adult arena when it comes to harvesting deer. We now have adults that feel they are entitled to shoot a buck because the buy a license and there should be enough deer to see so I can choose which one to harvest.
We wonder where this self-centered and entitlement in our youth comes from? We don't need to look far at all.

It seems most are concerned about hunting the intense rut. Why do we have all those other weeks of seasons if the rut is the major point for all the hunters? We could make the rut the season by say having the season the first Saturday of November until the end of the 3rd weekend with bow hunters going first for the first week one year, xbows first week another and gun hunters first the 3rd etc. Maybe then we would have managed antlerless seasons before and after depending upon the county desires for population controls. This done tongue in cheek but to me this whole issue shows a level of immaturity that does not bode well for hunting and hunters down the road. The one advantage of this is that it would make a huge number of hunters involved in all three methods depending upon the season.

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bblwi, to me it is about sound population management and the opportunity to kill a deer. Antlers or not, I am hunting to eat.

I agree that far too many think they have the right to shoot the big one. And that they are entitled to it. Some areas just don't have big antlers. Deer don't care about property lines.

Used to be we would be happy to see a guy shoot any kind of deer. Never worried about points, widths, G-2 lengths, etc.

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The members of WBA what the rut all to themselves and that's It In a nut shell. They don't care about deer management unless It manages them to hunt the rut.

If I lay down my money to hunt deer then no special interest group should be able to tell me when I can hunt. This Isn't merry old England and the kings deer. WBA


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Too much special interest group involvement in WI wildlife management. If it's not the WBA, it's the WI Bear Hunters Association.

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Originally Posted by k snow


I like the idea posted earlier about a primitive weapons season from sept thru december, bow and muzzleloader, no blaze required. The a regular 9 day with blaze orange, or pink, whatever.



There is something about this idea that keeps drawing me to it, but I keep coming back to the idea that it would actually make the issue worse, not better if we look at the concern they are trying to solve. It would increase buck harvest before the gun hunters get a crack at them.

That said, there is another question about a lottery for limited tag items as a way to increase revenue for the department. Like they do for elk. Legislators have not been keen on increasing fees, but they have started to show a willingness to look at lotteries. I wonder if they did a lottery for this type of tag, what the interest would be?


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There is something about this idea that keeps drawing me to it, but I keep coming back to the idea that it would actually make the issue worse, not better if we look at the concern they are trying to solve. It would increase buck harvest before the gun hunters get a crack at them.

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If they want to shoot a buck that bad, get a muzzleloader or take up bowhunting.

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Originally Posted by k snow


If they want to shoot a buck that bad, get a muzzleloader or take up bowhunting.


Not saying I don't agree with you, but now comes the million dollar question...are you going to allow the use of in-lines and scopes in this primitive hunt?


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And here I though all the nuts lived in MN.

It's a deer, kill them.


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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
And here I though all the nuts lived in MN.
It's a deer, kill them.


Finally a nonresident has joined the discussion or should I say, enough joined that I noticed their presence. I did see there is a question about raising the license cost for nonresidents on deer and bear as well. Lots of possible changes that go outside season length.

That one falls under WCC advisory question. That is where you see the questions about badger season, extending bobcat season, and a host of other topics.
https://p.widencdn.net/d0xgfq/2020-01-4D-Congress-Matters-2020-spring-hearing-advisory-questions




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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
Originally Posted by k snow


If they want to shoot a buck that bad, get a muzzleloader or take up bowhunting.


Not saying I don't agree with you, but now comes the million dollar question...are you going to allow the use of in-lines and scopes in this primitive hunt?


if taking of deer is what is important , I am only looking for a safe way to do it in a longer season. I think we got away from the iron sights only during ml season because then you have all the people who have vision issues who have to get an exception. just like all the people who had bad shoulders bad back ect.. that would have to get a xbow exception that when your DR made you go through a Physical Therapist and your insurance would not cover it your dropping hundreds on BS state bureaucracy.
you could make muzzle loader antler-less only start it oct 1 and run it for the month so you get the heard management your wanting but not uspet the vertical bow folks so much they will likely raise a fuss no matter what.

I say muzzle loader but could as easily be single shot rifle , the point is take deer , control heard size, in the locations that need it and use the resources that pay you for the privilege of shooting deer.

I don't get all this "this tool is too good concern" . you want heard management or not? offer a way through extended season and tags to get the management you want.where you want it .

we have an over abundance of a species in specific areas in the state. We have a resource of people who would be willing to harvest them for free. we need to get the people resource in touch with the landowners and give them time to harvest the numbers that make for better herd management.


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Are they allowing to vote online this year in case you cannot make the meeting?


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Originally Posted by trapper234
Are they allowing to vote online this year in case you cannot make the meeting?

Yes


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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
For those that didn't watch, it sounds like there are going to be quite a few questions on the Conservation Congress spring questionnaire relating to deer. When you include department, NRB, and CC advisory questions, it includes everything from shortening Xbow season, extending rifle season to 16 days, moving rifle season earlier, possible simplification changes to antlerless tags and a few others. It will be interesting to see how the input breaks down this spring.


Until they remove politics and people that know nothing about hunting from setting our rules, things won't get better.


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On line voting Is going to screw us.


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Originally Posted by The Beav
On line voting Is going to screw us.


From what I heard when the allowed it, the online votes didn't hold much water.


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So they are going to throw out the on line votes. If that happens that gives the antis more ammunition.


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Originally Posted by bblwi
What do we want the deer seasons in WI to accomplish?

Do we want the harvest of deer to be keyed mostly to manage the herd size and numbers and provide as good of sporting opportunities that we can?

Or do we want the hunt to be heavily favored for the sport of hunting and let deer herd management fall by the wayside?



No to your first option, its a selfish option, whats good for hunters and screw the rest of the citizens of the state.
I think your 2nd option assumes that "sport of hunting" and herd management are not compatible.

The answer should be what we want the deer seasons to accomplish is to first keep the herd in check so that the herd is not doing damage to the environment. When the deer herd is such that various native plants are are completely eliminated or unable to complete their life cycles due to deer over browse then the herd is too big and more deer need to be thinned. I'm not even going to go into AG industry and Ins. industries, the effect of herd size greatly effects these industries and then indirectly effects every consumer in the state.
This is sound management of natural resources. Managing for larger herds at the expense of other plants, animals and other interests is a poor management model.

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I'm on another forum that's mostly WI guys. Lots are hardcore and hunt a lot and put in the hours. Lots are saying this last year was really bad with low deer sightings. Lots of mobile guys that don't hunt the same 40 or 80 every weekend. These are the guys who's opinions matter to me. They know what's out there. No agenda to push like the dnr. It's been an ongoing slaughter for years. I really wish we'd go back to a format like before all the t zones. Archery season. 9 day gun season. Late archery. No more special antlerless hunts, no more youth hunts. Get back to tradition. Once that framework is back in place, figure where crossbows and muzzleloaders fit in.


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6742942
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My statements were questions and yes I do believe that decades ago we were closer to being better at herd management and offering a good hunting experience for most hunters. What has happened since that time is we have tried to offer many more options for specific groups and also we have developed huge "turf" wars as regards to who should have access and when to the deer herd. Yes we can offer herd management and offer good opportunities for hunters but it will not be with similar approaches and science that was used in the past. It will take a long time to sort through as to how to better manage our deer herd with all the variables we have today and the vast majority of those being human and thus political in nature. Habitats over time are changing and especially the northern 3rd of the state with the old growth forest returning to much of the public and private forest areas of the north. We could offer some really different hunting options for these northern areas where the herd is smaller, densities less etc.
Many believe that the DNR wants to slaughter all the deer and if you hunt on public ground that may well be what one sees. I would also believe that on the majority of private land that the deer herd is significantly under harvested on purpose to maintain higher densities and thus one of the major ways to keep numbers lower is to shoot as many as possible in areas where access is allowable and easier. j

For those that want to see and shoot more deer there are areas where that is easily possible. So if time and money are not issues to shooting more deer the opportunities are available if one chooses to search them out.

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For many years, the department kept number artificially high. They limited harvest to keep the quality of experience high. Deer were no different than bears, otter, etc. Then there came a time when folks started to realize there was costs associated with doing so they over corrected IMO. The pendulum continues to swing.

Folks not seeing deer should go hunt Winnebago county. There is enough public you should be able to find some deer if you are willing to work for them. Sure you might bump into folks from time to time, but a guy can get away from folks if you work at it or hunt after opening weekend. The county has great cell coverage so you can register the deer before you even start dragging. Plus, the county has yet to have a positive CWD deer.

IMO that is the great thing about CDACs. They don't have to be a one size fits all approach. Folks locally can make that decision and it doesn't have to be a dictatorship. Folks are forced to work together instead of complaining and expecting someone else to fix the problem or create a different one for someone else.

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