Made in China 4 Thousand less than Yamaha or Polaris

CFMOTO / AND ARENT they all made with Chinese parts anyway?

Honda is Japan and they have ben building them for along time.

I always believed China wasn't quality but Japanese stuff was better?

330, Im a big Polaris fan and tend to stay away those Chinese knock offs, but the cfmotos have great reviews and from multiple atv groups on Facebook people seem to have many good things to say about cfmoto.

Honest answer

You buy from the country that has declared war on us …go ahead…not me!

I fully agree with your statement, but I’d say it’s a safe bet more than half the items you and the rest of us purchase are from China.

I know but a known Chinese product is a good place to start. It seemed that all of a sudden some years ago so many things became made in China and our choices were limited. It needs to change!

I’m old enough to remember when Japanese products were considered junk.

I hear ya snap. The man just asked if cfmoto was decent. From what I hear they are, but I agree with ya..

Do they have a service department and parts at that dealership ?

I never have work on my Polaris ATVs other than change the oil.

The Chinese cheap ones I bought for my kids were a constant project.

My Dad went into Japan during the occupation just after the bomb. We conquered them and became a great Allie and their products became best in the world and our shared manufacturing technology did it!

The Jap engineers are on a higher level than most

Yamaha and Honda spend alot of money on R&D

I'm a fan of Yamaha and have owned a few Hondas over the years


One thing to consider is the Chinese also know the Jap stuff is superior and have no shame in copying proven designs and reliable parts . In fact they are good at it . So a Chinese machine is perhaps getting close to being on par with the Jap stuff now days ?....... IDK I'm still afraid to try

The problem with a lot of the Chinese ATVs used to be a lack of consistency in parts used. You couldn’t just look up your year and model to order a carb kit or wheel bearing. They used whatever was on the shelf to finish the production run so you end up trying to describe what the part looks like and usually a series of triple and error in ordering. Not sure if they are still doing that or not.

I have had Honda rancher TRX350s for years and years with little or no trouble and personally wouldn’t buy anything else.

Good luck!

A good friend has had a cfmoto side by side on the farm for over a year now and no problems at all. It gets used hard. Local honda dealer sells an services them.

I bought a 20 hp Honda motor a year or so back for a project. Was surprised when it said made in China on it.

we have a lot of smaller Honda single cylinder engines at work, and now what was once made in Japan most of the the new ones say made in china

My brother had a CF/moto side by side and failed in less than 2 hrs, dealer couldn't get parts and eventually got rid of it at quite a loss. Another friend in Alaska bought one, ATV, and after raving about it for a year he got rid of it because it was not dependable. The old saying buyer beware comes to mind. I think eventually CFmoto will have a dependable product but I would not be buying one yet.
Gary J

Polaris rangers are currently produced in China.

Support China?? Yeah they need more money to buy more weapons to thump us with.

Stay away from the red dragon. They spy on the country steal are technology fill the country with their crap.

Take a good close look at it,the suspension, frame etc-then compare it to a Honda Yammy ot Can am.
You will have your answer.

Japan takes pride in their work and products, China is just looking for another way to screw us over or poison us zero pride in their work.

Buy a Honda or Yamaha a guy at work bought one a piece fell off internally and bye bye engine just saying you get what you pay for . My 2004 Honda Foreman is the only machine I’ve owned 10 k miles the only reason I haven’t thought about a new one is the pull start that is on it and it does the job

That is very true. I have a buddy that bought the BodeMoto UTV for hunting and trapping because it was a lot cheaper than American made. It's 2-3 years old now (I think) and mechanical parts are cracking and breaking consistently, he's having huge trouble getting replacement parts to keep it running. To be fair this may have something to do with the Covid shutdown supply chain issues. I have a 1997 Polaris Sportsman 500, that now has 44,000 miles on it and I use it to hunt, trap, sprays weeds with a 25 gallon tank and boom sprayer in a hard to get my Kubota tractor into pasture, fixing fence, dragging my gravel driveway, and every tough job there is. This thing still runs like a mule that stepped in a ground Hornets nest with minimal repairs but very good maintenance. One of those things that you get what you paid for! Probably 8 sets of tires on it by now.

I wouldn't get a Polaris, Honda might not be as good as it used to be, but still much better than anything Chinese

CFMOTO is not well thought of around here. They break a lot and customer service is pretty bad. Check out some online reviews.

Sounds like Japan is using Chinese slave labor just like the US and every other nation in the world.
Anyone in here who is espousing the discontent of the Chinese, shop at Walmart?

Same thing in my area. I’ve known two guys who ended up selling them out of frustration with breakdowns.

All I will say is you get what u pay for there is a reason they cheap. U do u but next year or two u will be p off at that machine. Nothing but yamaha at this house even boat motors

In my world ATVs see as much use as most peoples cars. In the reliability department nothing beats a Honda. Yamaha is a close second. If you like working on stuff or walking, get a Polaris.

A year or so back Yamaha brought back the 450 Kodiak. I know guys that have more than 30,000 hard miles on them and zero issues.

I'm not impressed with Chinese made motorsports equipment. I had to fix this kids Tao-Tao scooter.

The kick starter lever broke at the weld inside the gearbox.

The scooter only had 373km on it.

That part should last the life of the scooter. Chinese made stuff just doesn't last. Japanese stuff can last decades.

At least Toyota has factories in the US not sure about Honda.

True I work on the old Mitsubishi 2nd gen mini trucks that Dodge imported 1987-1994, I built one from the frame up and broke only 1 bolt putting one truck together using 2 parts trucks. Every bolt was factory galvanized and higher grade bolts were used.

Sure they are made in China but they are brought here by American investors and sold by American dealers and salespersons, so who are the real enemies?

Bryce

Some of you are saying American made

But I don't know of an American made ATV anymore

My son has cfmoto side by side and another friend has regular quad no issues.
My son's machine is 3 years old with no major issues just couple loose bolts that probably didn't get tightened in setup. Biggest problem we have with all our machines. Is trusting the people who do service we can't do our selves.
My son and I each have a Suzuki quad my son also has the 2020 cfmoto side by side and a 2020 Polaris Ranger he won on a raffle. Getting dealer work done is a hassle.
Any machine you consider buying I would look at if you have good local service. How easy can you get parts if you do your own work. I can get most any parts for our machines off internet.

Mac

Don't trust China

Buying Chinese is like buying oil from countries that hate us.

I have a 94 Honda 300 Fourtrax runs like a top all I do is change the oil and put gas in it never lets me down.

My wife works at a shop that sells them. 4 of my buddies have them (various models) with out any problems. The US parts warehouse is in Plymouth mn. I would buy one if it has the options I am in the market for at the time. They have a large market share in other parts of the world. Do your research and get the one that fits your needs best.

Japan makes the best atvs in the world and China makes the worst. You decide.

Those that buy them.

Dad bought my son both 110 cc Chinese 4 wheelers. They were about 1000 each at the time. They were broke and at the shop or waiting for me to have time to get parts and fix them. One had everything replaced including the motor. I spent more time and money keeping them going I should have paid the difference and got them Hondas. Now my boys are riding a 1992 Honda 300. Got it for 800. Much better built machinery.

I remember setting in a pre construction conference with the Corps of Engineers and the mechanical contractor having his submittals for valves rejected because of the Buy American act. That was before Joe Biden and the rest of the Democrat politicians deleted the act!

Honda 4 wheelers run forever with almost nothing breaking as long as you change the oil when you’re supposed to and do minimal maintenance. Tough as nails. Yamahas are not as reliable in my experience. I’d never buy a china knockoff. Forget them.

They are all good unless you ride them. You think you are going to get 18,000 or more miles and never worked on?

Please save your money and buy a honda, kawasaki, suzuki before some china made one. I have never met a single person yet that thought the cheaper china made atv/utv was better than a Honda after owning it 10 years.
I have had good results with Honda, Suzuki, and Kawasaki and not good results with a little youth china atv. WE have 2 Hondas over 20 years old, suzuki 17 years old and a kawasaki mule about 18 years old. They all just keep running with minimal maintenance. THe little china atv lasted about 3-4 years before it wasnt worth fixing and a pain in the hind end.

For me and my family - I will buy Japanese made atv/utvs. - they simply work and last. Kubotas are nice also in the utvs

I replaced a set of wheel bearings in a Yamaha ATV about three years ago with Chinese aftermarket bearings, they rusted out in three years. Maybe these Chinese ATV's are okay, but Chinese aftermarket parts are junk imo.

A friend I hunt with has one. Great machine, seems to be well built. She has had it a little over 2 years and no issues. I have ridden it and really like the steering, power and general setup of the machine. Eric

Just looked them last weekend at a sport show. They look decent but ask the dealer for information on them and they didn't have any. Told me to go on the website to get it. Lost interest right there. Probably more in the dealer than the machine. Been driving Polaris for 20 plus years, but they are getting spendy.

This!!

Honda has a huge manufacturing facility in Timmonsville,SC that has been in operation since the late 1990s with an annual capacity of 100K ATVs and 100K UTVs. I have no idea where the parts are made but the SC plant is where they are put together. Their website says that they have produced over 3 million products there since 1998.

I looked at CFMoto before buying a Can Am (850 Outlander).

I needed to buy a two- seaters for trail riding. Price was right but not as solid as the other ones and some issues getting parts so I ended up passing on CF Moto. We had a dealer here, and is no longer selling them.

In my opinion, if you are looking at something that will keep a good a value like many have stated here Japanese made or Can Am.

I know there are a lot of Polaris fans out there but the people I spoke with including a farmer had nothing good to say about them. However, I still see a fair amount of Polaris side dy side and ATVs on our trail system.

I have an old 1987 Kawaski Bayou I use to haul deer out of the bush and to trap and the thing won`t die.

If I didn`t need a two up, I would have purchased a Kawasaki. My cousins are ridding Kawa and they have a lot of good things to say about them. Yamaha and Honda ATVs are also very solid, no doubt.

the real enemies are the people who buy them.
If there is no market for them they won't get imported in the first place.

The American consumer is quick to sell out his fellow countrymen to save a couple of bucks.
And make no mistake China is hostile to the USA.

I bought a new polaris this year, and love it, like all the polaris sportsman machines I've owned.



A guy who works for me bought a cf moto at the same time.

It's been back to the dealer several times now for warranty stuff.

Never owned a Honda but the Big Red trike still commands a 800 -1,000 dollar price unless its in a box and they sell fast i'm thinken people that use them a lot are tired of computers sensors limp modes and other crap Myself I have a 92 Yamaha that made it thru 3 kids took care of some rattling valves maybe 10-12 years ago going good and a Suzuki thats newer, 2,000 something I'd like to think the alloys and design are better in name brands but parts and service are priority Heck bought a fuel pump for my 1974 evinrude snowmoblle reason being the same one went into there outboard motors can't beat that

10 to 1
You buy Chinese stuff all the time and don't know it.

some truth to that.
But to not avoid it when you can is nothing but a self-indulgent hooray for me and screw every one and everything else attitude.

I have a 2004 Honda Foreman 450. Only thing I had to do outside of regular maintenance is replace the muffler. I'm amazed at the power that thing has for a 450.

Maybe I can find a Good used Honda ( but probably not anyone selling a good machine.)

I got mine in Brainerd. It was used; a couple years old. I thought the price was really fair.

This.

I would add Arctic Cat to the mix, but they went under and sold out a couple years ago. I'm on my third Arctic Cat ATV, 14K on it, over 20K on both of the first two and they still ran. Honda makes the most reliable, but Arctic Cat made the TBX which was better designed for my use and reliable enough. The only experience I've had with CFMoto was with their kids ATVs and they are junk, brand new they were broke down and requiring repairs and maintenance more often than my Cats with 20K of hard work miles on them.

Got a CAN AM 570 not impressed.

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Watch craigslist ,etc. my buddy never buys new and he finds some darn good machines all Hondas with low mileage ,like he says you can tell pretty quick if its been abused he says lots of people have them and never ride them , I've been trying to buy a 2007 450 Foreman ES from a deceased cousins wife it has 100 miles on it but I know it would take carb work etc just from the years of sitting in the garage it's a waste of a good machine.

Good Tip...
I hope you Get your machine

There are still old machines with low mileage out there...and I have seen some good ones used 3 weeks/ year for hunting. I am already looking another one...
I just load up my old 1987 Kawasaki Bayou with traps this afternoon...the darn thing hasn't been running since last November. I drained the tank and poured new gas in it and it fired right up. Good to go for another Spring.

I often think of the younger generation wanting to get into trapping...when considering the amount of equipment needed to do the job i.e. traps, supply, reliable vehicle, canoe, ATV and combined with price of gas... given the current price of fur, it is discouraging to most, no doubt...

You get what you pay for.

I have 2 Honda Ranchers, 05 and 06, at current rate they will be the only ATV's I will ever purchase. Oil changes and batteries....They will outlast my wife and I.