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Coyote Urine Thoughts #8184656
07/30/24 08:34 AM
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I been looking in the archives for my awnser and I got mixed awnsers

Will coyote urine catch both fox and coyote? In your experience what did you catch?

Thanks


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184667
07/30/24 08:47 AM
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Yes and bobcats and raccoons and everything else

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184672
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To each their own but I would go with fox.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184681
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Red fox is about all you need


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184682
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My thought is its hard to find good urine. Unless you buy from the person collecting it or pen one up yourself in a collection pen, your better off without it. If you can find some its good stuff. Same with fox. You want the stuff collected from wild fox not fur farm stuff. Coyote or fox is good stuff. Will attract both species no matter which one you use.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184696
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184705
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Try both for yourself,,,and you shall find the "awnser" that you seek.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184712
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I'll echo the comments above about the quality of urine you are buying. Very very few sources of real meat fed winter collected fox or coyote urine out there. Most of it is junk


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184716
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… one of the reasons why I use gland lure instead


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184717
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I Use mainly coyote urine. But also make a few sets here or there with red fox or bobcat urine. Quality urine of either coyote, fox, or bobcat will work on any of the other. But getting your hands on the good stuff is getting harder and harder also costs more and more which rightfully so being the cost of keep that animal feed properly and pen maintenance isn’t cheap either. Just glad last time I bought urine I bought five gallon bucket of each coyote and red fox.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: The hammer] #8184719
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Originally Posted by The hammer
I Use mainly coyote urine. But also make a few sets here or there with red fox or bobcat urine. Quality urine of either coyote, fox, or bobcat will work on any of the other. But getting your hands on the good stuff is getting harder and harder also costs more and more which rightfully so being the cost of keep that animal feed properly and pen maintenance isn’t cheap either. Just glad last time I bought urine I bought five gallon bucket of each coyote and red fox.

Where do you buy ur urine?

I buy off Minnesota trapline and FNT


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184724
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single source coyote urine is the way to go if you want coyotes to do what people think they do at urine post sets. thats getting hard to find.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184728
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Originally Posted by NorthernTrapperO

Where do you buy ur urine?

I buy of Minnesota trapline and FNT

I'd avoid both places, and as you were told above buy directly from the person collecting


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: coondagger2] #8184729
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Ok coondagger2, but I don't know anybody to go to. And buy urine off them. I know some people trap there coyote and fox and collect there urine after skinning. Is this a good way? I would rather use urine of a fox/coyote out of the area.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184732
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I have been happy with the Keg Creek urine I have purchased. I collect my own now, but I have confidence that KC is the real deal

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184733
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For those of us new to the canine world, what is the reaction difference of a coyote at a set made with high quality urine versus a set with low quality urine?
Does low quality stuff turn them off, make them nervous, or just not get any noticeable reaction?

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184734
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Originally Posted by NorthernTrapperO
Originally Posted by The hammer
I Use mainly coyote urine. But also make a few sets here or there with red fox or bobcat urine. Quality urine of either coyote, fox, or bobcat will work on any of the other. But getting your hands on the good stuff is getting harder and harder also costs more and more which rightfully so being the cost of keep that animal feed properly and pen maintenance isn’t cheap either. Just glad last time I bought urine I bought five gallon bucket of each coyote and red fox.

Where do you buy ur urine?

I buy off Minnesota trapline and FNT

I buy lots of stuff from both them companies great places to shop, but urine would be the last thing I buy from any big trapping supplies company I’d sooner go with out then waste money on whatever is in them bottles.
Sorry young fella I’d share where my sets are long before I’d share who or where my urine comes from.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: The hammer] #8184735
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The hammer where does your urine come from? grin


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184752
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most of the urine being sold has very little, if any, urine in the container


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184753
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The first time I collected coyote urine I thought I was doing something wrong. Smelled loud and stinky. Stuff kept settling in the bottom of the jar. Nothing I had bought smelled like that or kept getting sediment. Took awhile to figure out it was because I never had any before.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184756
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I would imagine bulk urine gets filtered to prevent spoilage. Fresh, natural urine wont keep well unless you freeze it or dump preservatives in it.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184768
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Not true snipperbb. Dont need to do anything to it if properly collected from meat fed animals in the winter. never goes bad. not even stored in a ks summer hot fur shed


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: danny clifton] #8184771
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
most of the urine being sold has very little, if any, urine in the container


I am not being sarcastic, but how do you know this?


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184772
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SNIPERBBB, or anyone else. pee in a jar and let it sit a few days. There will be sediment in the bottom. Its supposed to be there. You cant filter it out. That sediment (coyote fox or bobcat) is a good lure if you drain the urine off it. I just give my dispenser a good shake mixing it back in. I give the jug a good shake before putting it in a dispenser.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184774
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Because it does not smell like the urine I have collected or bought from people who collect it granpa.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184776
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I have bought urine before that wasn't and all the color settled out and the stuff was clear a year later.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184780
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Collect the good stuff from the ones you catch, imo its the best.

Bladder urine

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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184782
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Collecting good urine is expensive and labor intensive. Building a collection cage costs. You need feed. I feed whole cottontails froze then cut in half. feeding it froze keeps the cage clean. Feeding half a day is enough to keep them going and small enough they are hungry and eat it quick.

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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: danny clifton] #8184783
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
SNIPERBBB, or anyone else. pee in a jar and let it sit a few days. There will be sediment in the bottom. Its supposed to be there. You cant filter it out. That sediment (coyote fox or bobcat) is a good lure if you drain the urine off it. I just give my dispenser a good shake mixing it back in. I give the jug a good shake before putting it in a dispenser.

You're not using the right filter if you can't filter out sediments. You can drink Chicago sewer water with the right filter .

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184784
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Bladder urine Danny, but I've done both, keeping them live and collecting from carcasses.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184785
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show me sniper


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Many moons ago, probably around 1976-77

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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184791
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I’ve bought red fox urine and have gotten good stuff and bad stuff. I only buy it when I’m running low of the bladder-collected urine I normally use. Danny is right, urine collected straight from the critter doesn’t go bad. I don’t even refrigerate mine season to season.

I make an incision and pull the bladders out of red fox after I skin them. A full bladder makes me happy.

I have a good pictorial/tutorial on it here in the archives somewhere.


Eh...wot?

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184797
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Originally Posted by NorthernTrapperO
Ok coondagger2, but I don't know anybody to go to. And buy urine off them. I know some people trap there coyote and fox and collect there urine after skinning. Is this a good way? I would rather use urine of a fox/coyote out of the area.

I know this is gonna be difficult, but all you have to do is google "Trapperman best place to buy coyote urine" and this pops up with the guys name in it multiple times https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/7608920/coyote-urine

99% of the questions you have been asking can be solved with a 10 second google search. Remember you only get a couple posts per day. Don't waste them asking questions that are easy to find the answers to


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184798
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We use 190 Micron filters and run each gallon 2X on all of our urine. It does a great job for filtering small insects, and other impurities that can contaminate the urine over time. However, still some of the sediment will filter thru. After the bottles set for a while you will begin to see some sediment in the bottom of the bottles even after filtering well. Not near as much sediment as the non filtered urine sediment.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184804
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I collect my own urine Red fox and coyote. I will say if I had to choose I would say red fox urine is to me the best universal urine for catching coyotes, red fox, gray fox and bobcats. The urine ME and my trapping partner will be starting our season with this year is 2 years old. Sitting in 100 degree temperature in my shop. Dark with settlement on the bottom of all the gallon jugs. I send a few gallons a year to different notably trappers that would pour it out if it wasn't good. There is a little effort put into collecting quality urine. I have my own guidelines and it works for me. If you are new to the coyote, fox or bobcat trapping world I would be happy to help you out. You can give me a call I will be happy to send you some buddy. Plenty of people on this site help me every year with my wounded warriors trapping event and it is very much appreciated. Good urine does help but nothing works without hard work Plenty of good trapping ground and as often said on here setting on sign.
You can give me a call anytime I will send you a free gallon buddy.
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184806
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^^^^^^

There you go NorthernTrapperO, VERY generous offer


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184810
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Lots of spot on info here, and a nice offer to boot!

Moral of the story is, your catches can provide you with what you're looking for. Don't worry about setting dozens of traps just to have dozens out, but perfect your sets with best quality ingredients.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Bob Jameson] #8184818
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
We use 190 Micron filters and run each gallon 2X on all of our urine. It does a great job for filtering small insects, and other impurities that can contaminate the urine over time. However, still some of the sediment will filter thru. After the bottles set for a while you will begin to see some sediment in the bottom of the bottles even after filtering well. Not near as much sediment as the non filtered urine sediment.

You can go a lot finer on filters(drinking water filters are sub micron) though you'll strip out a lot of the "flavor".

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184819
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I don't think people like John Graham and Bob Jameson is going to sell inferior stuff. They have their reputations.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184821
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Sniper I am aware of smaller micron filters, however I only wish to control and remove the larger waste and impurities which is done nicely with the 190 micron from our experience. I also found that is just about the right filter to allow some of the desired salts and bodily waste identifiers to remain in the urine. Those particulates are the best odor identifiers and keep the urine true in odor to that specie.

I don't mean to sound too scientific but that is the best way I can explain it.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184831
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I’ve used coyote, fox, and bobcat, my go to and what works best in my area is red fox. Eric

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184846
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I would not be afraid to buy from Grahm or Jameson. Apple Road, Wayne Derrick, Schmitt Enterprises. Last bought was from an a vet in Indiana banned from here. He drives right by my house on his western adventures often and I bought 5 gallons. Some of those big seemingly popular big supply houses sell a lot of junk. I buy only traps and tools from them. Have never bought anything from Paul Dobbins I was disappointed in.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184881
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I bought a couple gallons last year of both fox and coyote from FnT and MTP. Caught coyotes and bobcat. I am far from being as talented as most on this site and don’t mean that as a slight, just that I recognize I have a lot to learn. After reading the replies on here, I am now doing some research on a different source of urine.

Need to see what the legality is and requirements of keeping animals and collecting my own.

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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184903
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One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.

What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.

I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering?

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184923
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If I use any it’s bobkitty. Fox attracts too many deer down here. Just start catching cats and you’ll have all the urine you’ll need. Ain’t found an empty bladder on a cat yet, lol.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8184949
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: bearcat2] #8185080
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.

What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.

I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering?


Explained very well. Just never realized there was that much difference.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185093
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185099
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I would be interested in getting some coyote urine, but only from one male, not several others mixed in

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Crappiekiller] #8185145
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Originally Posted by Crappiekiller
Originally Posted by bearcat2
One thing I'll point out about the big trap supply places. Most of their products are coming from somebody else (obvious exception for things like Caven's lures). I am sure they get their urine from multiple suppliers at times, because they need to have urine available whenever people decide to make an order. Most people are making one or two orders a year, getting whatever lures, traps, disposable anchors, etc. they need and just add in a half gallon or so of urine onto their order. The small guys who are collecting it themselves or getting it from one collector are doing their own quality control and you are getting the same product every time you order. You order from MTP or FnT and you may get urine they got from Supplier A one time and it is good stuff, but Supplier A only produces a 100 gallons of urine for them a year, and they sell a 1000, so the other 900 comes from seven other suppliers and when you order next year you get urine out of the batch they got from Supplier C, and he only had 80 gallons of urine when they called and order 150 gallons and instead of saying, "sorry, I only have 80" he cut it with with water and a few other things to make up the other 70 gallons.

What I'm saying is you might get good urine from them, but you never know what you're going to get until it shows up in the mail.

I've been using Jameson's the last couple or three years, I've had good urine from another source or two that I wouldn't hesitate to use again, but Bob's stuff is top notch, and I'm already dealing with him (and he is a great guy to deal with) so why would I go anywhere else if I can't get anything better than he is offering?


Explained very well. Just never realized there was that much difference.

That is just a theory. I wouldn't be surprised they are cutting it themselves and using artificial stuff.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185164
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Trapping community is pretty small not likely too many collecting on a commercial scale that aren't know

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185185
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Tactical, Why just one male? Just curious. Eric

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185247
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… he’s monogamous


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185323
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Sorry Savell, i’m not sure i understand your comment. :-)

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185389
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Urine is overrated.

Sometimes.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185460
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I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good?


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: yotetrapper30] #8185464
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good?

If it has a slight minty after taste you got the good stuff.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Yes sir] #8185466
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I bought some at the FTA this year. Guy I bought it from said it was sourced from one leg johnny. I guess his is supposed to be good?

If it has a slight minty after taste you got the good stuff.


Hang on, let me go check....


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185467
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Boone Liane] #8185528
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Urine is overrated.

Sometimes.




Would you use it for dirt or bait hole sets?


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Savell] #8185545
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The wee that I’ve used has been ineffective also. Wolf would pass right by without breaking stride. Tried fox & wolf urine. The gland lure is what got their attention around my sets. Fox & coyote too.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: ABeardedTrapper] #8185585
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Originally Posted by ABeardedTrapper
Tactical, Why just one male? Just curious. Eric

It should get the correct territorial response, multiple coyote mixed together isn't nearly as good, especially with an educated coyote

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185591
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The good stuff=great,

The rest=waste of time and money.

This has been my experience anyways…


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Tactical.20] #8185596
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Originally Posted by Tactical.20
Originally Posted by ABeardedTrapper
Tactical, Why just one male? Just curious. Eric

It should get the correct territorial response, multiple coyote mixed together isn't nearly as good, especially with an educated coyote


Why would that be? I know from testing bait/lure.urine in front of trail cams that once one coyote marks something, they all do. Seems like a mixed urine source would be just as natural as a single source around here.

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Squirt some on your shoes and if the neighborhood dogs wiss on you it's good stuff. grin


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Giant Sage] #8185638
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Squirt some on your shoes and if the neighborhood dogs wiss on you it's good stuff. grin


I wish you'd suggested this before I took yes sir's suggestion. frown


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185645
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I do a lot of testing with lures, bait, and urine to see how my dog react/responds. Have also tried the same thing with bait, lure, and urine to see how my daughter’s cat reacts. Eric

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Boone Liane] #8185708
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Urine is overrated.

Sometimes.



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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185739
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This turned into a good post…. Nice job northerntrappero


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8185743
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Urine is best stored in a colored bottle that blocks sunlight. Nobody does it because people want to see the urine and it costs more for the container. Try it.


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The urine I buy comes in a brown glass bottle. Eric

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Originally Posted by Savell
… he’s monogamous


So are coyotes. wink Maybe there's something to it.

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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8186864
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The first time I collected coyote urine it was from a single male "pet" coyote. Once I figured out I had been buying who knows what from a major trap supply company and used it I thought the significant catch increase was because it was from a single animal. Now I will add bladder urine from fox or cats to the jug. If I am skinning at home I keep the cat pee separate but I am not sure its more effective than just adding it to jug of coyote pee. As was said multiple animals and species of animals at a toilet is very common.


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PS bought a quart of something from a major dealer a few years ago called rat glands. They showed up colored red. Paid a good price. Still in the freezer. No clue whats in that jar. Pretty amazing what some folks will do.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8186870
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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8186887
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I’ve taken different urines from different sellers and squirt a little on a piece of plastic out in the sun it showed real quick what’s quality urine only real fast. Quality pure urine is going to dry out to the point where you can break it up into a substance that looks like fish food flakes the not so pure or quality that’s cut with bunch of different chemicals doesn’t do that or takes ten times longer and loses its odor fast.

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: danny clifton] #8187139
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
PS bought a quart of something from a major dealer a few years ago called rat glands. They showed up colored red. Paid a good price. Still in the freezer. No clue whats in that jar. Pretty amazing what some folks will do.

Mine turn red when I store them in glycerin. Looks good to me.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8187268
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Urine is overrated.

Sometimes.




Would you use it for dirt or bait hole sets?


Both.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8187304
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Were supposed to be be fresh froze no additives. Why would you add glycerin????

Glycerin would explain why the rat gland sweet smell is so faint

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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: Coyote Clayton] #8187880
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Originally Posted by Coyote Clayton
Urine is best stored in a colored bottle that blocks sunlight. Nobody does it because people want to see the urine and it costs more for the container. Try it.

Ya I've never seen a colored bottle

Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: danny clifton] #8187993
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Were supposed to be be fresh froze no additives. Why would you add glycerin????

Glycerin would explain why the rat gland sweet smell is so faint

Just lazy I guess. We don't have a spring season so it's a very small amount of gland. Do you dry them? I read somewhere that makes them stronger.


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Re: Coyote Urine Thoughts [Re: NorthernTrapperO] #8188032
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No I dont dry them. No spring season here either. Its why I buy them. Never saw red rat glands. Not much smell to them either. Its sure enough buyer beware in the trapping game.


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