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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443432
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Can you prove and give specific examples that humans can’t speed up the Earth’s natural cycles? Politics and money aren’t answers.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Big cities

Vegetation gone forever = increased UV absorption and warmer temps
Interrupted water cycles — would you drink well water in Portland?
Dirty air from increased vehicle exhaust and lack of vegetation filtering air — would you breathe directly from a car exhaust?
Where do you grow food?
What animals live there?



Nothing is forever....anything man made will return to the earth eventually.....our simple and extremely short lives are nothing


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Since apparently I’m the only one answering questions, I’m going to assume you drink Portland well water.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8443438
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Why would I drink portland well water .. ? My well isn't in portland



The pnw has some of the cleanest water in the us


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That’s not the question. Would you drink Portland well water?

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I don't know so much about man's ability to destroy nature, but we can certainly move it around, in which it is about adaptation. The years of the dust bowl is an example of maybe not causing but certainly speeding it up. Without some conservation the heartland would move down the Mississippi faster than what it is. Still it is just moving things around, but I doubt many farmers in Iowa and Illinois would like to relocate to the Delta, lol.

Nature had its own ways, such as lightning strikes to burn off the prairies for fertilization and new growth.

Then there is "do gooders" over doing their thing such as tree huggers and letting the old undergrowth pile up and add to the forest fires.

Or the animal rights not caring about what numbers an area can sustain a healthy population. Yes I believe man can make a difference, but eventually nature corrects itself.

A lot is self regulating as in animal care. If farmers neglect their animals there will be no profit and there will be a wise up period either for the better or for getting out.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Not sure how I feel about greenhouse gases. However, trees and vegetation naturally reflect UV light and shade the surface of the Earth. Pavement absorbs UV and heats the surface of the Earth. As we trade more vegetation for pavement I think we’ll see that increase. What’s your take?


one of the tricks the man-made global warming folks use is to place thermometers near the city heat islands. not every thermometer, mind you; but skewed that way, not random.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Big cities

Vegetation gone forever = increased UV absorption and warmer temps
Interrupted water cycles — would you drink well water in Portland?
Dirty air from increased vehicle exhaust and lack of vegetation filtering air — would you breathe directly from a car exhaust?
Where do you grow food?
What animals live there?



listen, I dislike cities more than most

but a quick google search tells me that approximately 0.8 percent of earth's landmass is covered by concrete and asphalt.

and about 71 percent of the earth's surface is covered by water.

so, less than 1 percent of the 29 percent of earth's surface is concrete/asphalt.


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The land area is what we’re focused on, since that’s where the vegetation grows and that’s what’s keeping us alive. So one percent of 29 percent is almost 3.5% of the Earth’s land area. Maybe that number is too small to matter, maybe it’s extremely meaningful.

I didn’t ask if you liked big cities, but I’m glad you point that out. Why don’t you like them?

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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
The land area is what we’re focused on, since that’s where the vegetation grows and that’s what’s keeping us alive. So one percent of 29 percent is almost 3.5% of the Earth’s land area. Maybe that number is too small to matter, maybe it’s extremely meaningful.

I didn’t ask if you liked big cities, but I’m glad you point that out. Why don’t you like them?


you better check your math...1 percent of the earth's land mass is not 3.5 percent of earth's land mass.

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Lol read that wrong. Either way, you’re saying numbers don’t matter. If 100% of the land mass is concrete/asphalt then do we impact the Earth?

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The benefits of fossil fuels GREATLY outweigh any negative(real or imagined) effects on the planet

The “climate crisis” folks are anti human, and their goal is to reduce the overall human population

Just plain evil!!

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You get your news from YouTube.

I’ve personally experienced several things that would suggest humans have an impact.

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Originally Posted by spjones
The benefits of fossil fuels GREATLY outweigh any negative(real or imagined) effects on the planet

The “climate crisis” folks are anti human, and their goal is to reduce the overall human population

Just plain evil!!



I use fossil fuels every day. Always have, always will, and I enjoy using them.

Do you think humans can impact the Earth and its natural cycles through our use/development of the land?

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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Lol read that wrong. Either way, you’re saying numbers don’t matter. If 100% of the land mass is concrete/asphalt then do we impact the Earth?


that is a Straw Man Argument and won't fly here.

try again.

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Lol read that wrong. Either way, you’re saying numbers don’t matter. If 100% of the land mass is concrete/asphalt then do we impact the Earth?


that is a Straw Man Argument and won't fly here.

try again.


50%?

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did you watch the youtube video I just posted, or do you wish to remain ignorant?

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Will you ever answer one question or will you continue to rely on a guy from YouTube that nobody has ever heard of?

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Originally Posted by white marlin
that is a Straw Man Argument and won't fly here.

try again.
50%?


really? you're asking a hypothetical question that is ridiculously overblown (by a factor greater than fifty TIMES)?

if that's all you got...

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