Any thoughts on getting these shots. I've heard they can weaken your heart.

I am good without them.

I have never had either of them or any of the other shots they recommend you get. The only shot I keep up with is tetanus.

I had both about six weeks ago.

I've never had either in my entire life. Still here.

I quit covid shots when the adverse data came out. I've gotten a flu shot every year for at least 25 years with no adverse effects and no flu. Best advice is get your medical advice from a competent medical professional that you trust and not from us here on Tman.

As I shared before, I had an adverse reaction and nearly died from getting the Covid, Flu and Shingles shots on the same day, 3 years ago. I since was advised by my doctor not to get vaccinated for any of those again. They caused my immune system to attack and damage my red blood cells, so they could not carry oxygen well. My Systolic blood pressure went up to 240 and my blood oxygen level went down to 71%, putting me in the hospital.

Keith

I'm not getting either.

Never had a flu shot, never took the covid shot/shots...never got covid either, or if I did I never knew it....

Everyone I know that got the covid shots and boosters have had Covid several times,,

Last flu shot was 1993 - got sicker than a dog. Never again.
Never had covid shots and never will.
Lots of people having blood clots, strokes, heart issues, etc. after getting them.
Healthy eating will keep your immune system strong
Just my 2 cents.

Nope , never , scam

They are both advertised heavily.......and not because they are concerned about your well-being...........$$$$$

I start taking a good quality cod liver oil daily this time of year, the liquid not the pills, I'm no wus...
That and Ivermectin chases all the bad juju away..lol

no thanks. may be harmless for all i know but x2 its just to make money

I've heard the covid shot messes with your heart. Know of a couple "sudden deaths" here right after getting it.

My wife and I haven't ever had one and I never had a flu shot either. She had to get flu shots for her work, but as soon as she didn't have to she quit them also. (10 years ago now)

Interesting post. At 73 I do get a flu shot. Got Covid shot during pandemic and my oldest daughter did not get shot for Covid for her or my 2 grandkids. My other daughter got Covid shots and had my other grandkids get one Wife took Covid shot and got a case of long Covid. I no longer take Covid shot but got my flu shot last week. Had the red blood cell issue last Christmas. It was yuengling beer. Got that fixed with 0.0. I always called it something else but after my wife chewing I now call it 0.0 miss my old doctor of years ago. He always said life is short. Do what you want because something will get you in time

None of the covid shots info added up to me and I dont trust the government or pharma so never got covid shots. Years ago I did get a flu shot probably 18 years ago when they offered them at work. Never again since then

Now more Info on all tha adverse reactions on the covid shots has come out and I can't believe anyone would consider taking them. I dont socialize with a lot of people but know several people that have developed heart related problems after they took covid shots.

My son always gets both, and he's had no problems other than getting covid....everyone is different....still not going to take either.

Never had a flu shot and had the flu maybe twice in my life.

Covid shots have been proven ineffective and there is a lot of evidence coming out that they are dangerous to your overall health.

Flu shot yes. Covid shot no. I almost died from the flu when I was much younger. I have never been sicker in my life. If I was my age now, I doubt I would have survived. Get the shot every year now. I once had the flu after I received the shot but it was much, much milder. The Doc said it is because I got the shot. Had covid once but it was mild compared to when I had the flu the first time.

ditto

I choose not to get a flu shot or anything to do with covid

If there was anything good about the Covid "vaccine " then our wonderful gubment wouldn't have given big pharma immunity from law suits. You do the math

^ This right here....What other vaccine has been given legal immunity?....Plus, they still won't reveal just exactly what is actually in the so called vaccine that your expected to inject in your body.

Scientific fact: as you age, up to about 37, your immune system gets better and better. After that, it’s in decline. By age 70, you’re prone to get every virus coming down the pike. I’m 75. My immune system isn’t nearly as good as it was just 10 or 20 years ago. I’ll get both shots because either the flu or Covid will be hard on me if I get these diseases.

The average age of trappers in America is getting older. It may have been reported on Tman, that the average age of trappers is >60. If that’s the case, our collective immune systems are getting worse, not better. You do what you want. I’m taking the shots.

The thing is, the covid shot does not stop you from getting covid, so why take it?

I have nothing against flu shots, other than they often get the wrong strain of flu that's going around, of course on their behalf they use the best guess at the time of manufacture so being right or wrong is a crap shoot, but the covid shot is a different process, and I don't trust it...

At age 74 ;I do as directed by my trusted doctor of many years-I get both shots and have been healthier for doing so. One extra thing I do is when grocery shopping I wipe of the grocery cart handle with sanitizer before I use it---do as you will-just stay away from me

Tom

6 feet away

Haven't gotten flu shot since I was a kid. Doesn't work any better than the covid shot does. Treatable diseases don't need vaccines. That's why they had to villify ivermectin and other medicines to get emergency authorization for the jab.

If the COVID and flu shots are so bad, why did Trump just get both of them.

If you have the shots that will save you why does it matter who gets near you?

Never took either and I never will. At least, not the COVID shot anyway. I don't know anything about the flu shot though. The only shot I ever had was a tetanus shot when I was like 2

My provider doesn’t even suggest or mention anything about getting a Covid shot now they just don’t bring it up like before that says a lot to me at least. You wonder if the flu shots even worth it when it comes out later that it’s not effective for the current strain that has happened more than once. It’s tough they put themselves in a position where nobody believes what they are saying that makes it a tough call.

You are sure he did? Just saying it’s one big dog and pony show now.

Rat--On that part I was being facetious--I said do as you will--just dont give me crap for what I am doing health wise--not Letterly physically

Tom

Coyote cowboy---how old are you now

Trump just got a second “annual” physical, in one year. At his second physical he got both of the shots.

I have never had either. How old are you? If you are quite old... a flu shot may be worth considering....

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I lost interest when the government started taking our rights away and politicians pushed us to get it.

I am a paramedic. I take the flu shot because it's required by my employer. I'm rarely sick so I'm not sure if it does any good but it doesn't affect me so I just take it. I refused the Covid shot and will never take it. I saw too many random deaths in people 10-14 days after they had the booster. I wasn't going to take the Covid shot no matter what after seeing that. I felt that there was not enough research being done. Then I thought there was too much lying being done to convince people to take the shot. All my coworkers that were big on taking the shots were the ones that got Covid.

Someone up above commented on keeping a 6 foot distance. Fauci testified to Congress that he pulled that number out of his nether region. So much for the science of it all.

Trump is a bit of a germophobe.

Because he chose to? I still think it's stupid no matter who you are. The flu shot doesn't even give 50% efficacy. The covid jab is always sucking hind teet.

My guess is PRESIDENT TRUMP doesn't want to look bad since he endorsed the jab under false pretenses from the head of the lollipop guild.

pure blood here

No jabs here now or before. Two acquaintences had and still dealing with consequences from their initial jabs from years ago. Dr. said they likely will never get better.

FWIW, I was in the Marines for 25 years and was required to get the flu shot every single one of those years. I never got the flu in those 25 years and never had an adverse experience. I never got any COVID shots because there was too much controversy over them and they didn’t prevent the virus. I feel like those shots were both rushed out of necessity but also are a huge money maker for the 3 or 4 major manufacturers. But as stated above, I’d always recommend listening to a doctor as his/her advice will be based on factors such as risk, history, age, health, etc.

I had just the first COVID shot, no boosters
No flu shots ever, have had the flu a few times in my life
Never had COVID I knew of, but never took a test either.
If I get sick I don't hang around people anyway.
I'm still kicking, just not as high

If you're a Veteran and you consider yourself vaccine averse,got news for ya...

Ingot JEV, all the Hepatitis, Anthrax, small pox, and probably a bunch more I’m not thinking of.

Never touch anything such as door knobs when out in the public. I use my shirt sleeve. I use the handy wipes on the grocery carts. Handling money is a different story as it is so filthy.

Load up on vitamin D.

I dont know what Ingot JEV is. There was no hepatitis vaccine. Got small pox and polio vaccine as a kid. No clue what was in the shots they gave us.

Im not anti vax. Dont get the flu. Covid made me sick for awhile. I was not going to get a shot being called a vaccine when it was not. Weakened or dead bacteria or virus is one thing. An experimental RNA change, no. I never bought into the danger of covid as the homeless did not die off in large numbers.

When it comes to the covid shot I trusted natural immunity over mRNA technology. With flu it is so hit and miss I just don't bother.

Neither did the Amish, none of whom got the jabs.

The entire thing was a nationally hyped scam. From the hospital ships waiting in big-city harbors to treat the expected overflow of dying patients to the reefer trucks brought in to receive the avalanche of corpses.

It was so important to get the shot that the democrats threatened your career and life to scare you into accepting the shots. Meanwhile, Joe Dementia opened the border and allowed 20 million illegals to waltz right in without taking a shot. To add insult to injury, He flew them all over the country to spread them around while American citizens couldn't get on a plane if they weren't vaccinated.

My wife used to get a flu shot every year and she would get the flu almost every year. Doc told her it was probably a different strain of the flu she had gotten. I told her try not getting the flu shot and see if you get the flu. So, she did stop the flu shots and hasn't had the flu since. That was 4 years ago.

I'm 48.

I got the first vid shot and first booster so I could keep going to work. Stopped with those as soon as work allowed.

Never had a flu shot. My Dr asks every year and doesn't bat and eye when I say no.

If I live to be 70+, maybe then I'll do flu shots. Seen the flu kill a lot of people that are older and/or in bad health.

When you get older you will better understand about prevention.

I understand enough about the COVID shot that I know I will never get it. And I understand why some people might want to get it, and respect their decisions but as for myself, I think I know enough to know I don't want it.

Having kidney failure the dialysis center is always pushing that garbage, the nurses know me well enough they just stand there with the form and say "refuse right?" Never had either and never will

Good for you young man. The old guys are still in the mind set you can trust the government and the drug companys have an interest in curing you vs making a life long customer. Healthy people dont make them money

People that got the covid shots did so out of fear probably 90% of them. Fear of loosing their job fear of getting sick. That fear and panicking stoped most of them from looking at the info and Questining why this is not adding up and steeping back.

Myself I decided if work tried to require me to take the shot to stay employed they would just lay me off or fire me. And the best part was my wife did not just agree but flat out insisted nope you dont need to do that let them fire you .
I got covid it was not to bad. Had it and flu B at the same time. Im fine and dont have any negative side effects from an experimental shot the manufacturer has zero liability on.

That's the thing, it doesn't prevent covid, it might prevent other things like being able to have children or a longer life.

Thanks. I totally agree on what you said above. My dad also got covid and was in critical condition, the doctor wouldn't even let us in to say goodbye in case he kicked the bucket. Just told us to see him thru the window. Thankfully he pulled through though. Then the doctor decided he had diabetes, and gave him something for that. Anyway that caused an AFib and then they needed to give him something for that. He was on a heart monitor for a while too, even after he came home. None of us ever got the vaccine and the only time I wore a mask was for when they finally let us in the hospital to see him, but then kicked us out anyway even before we got to actually see him.

Most of my family got exemptions based on religious beliefs. It was BS but it was a way to avoid being forced to get the jab.

I’m self-employed, so there was no requirement for me to get it. I do remember having job sites shut down by our governor. Which was total bullcrap because his family owns a cabinet making business and they continued working even though I could not continue remodeling and building.

Like I said above, the entire thing was a scam.

One of the jobs I was on had a nurse in a job trailer;. Checked temperatures every morning asked a few questions. I told her one morning if she wanted some positives to check that scurvy looking bunch for syphilis. Made her laugh.

One of the sad things of covid was that most of the hospitals, at least the staff knew that most of that stuff was a joke. The hospital is worked for relegated the outpatient elective surgery nurses to doing the temperature checks since they shut down that unit. Eventually they when to the face scanners once they got money for them and didn't need the nurses anymore. We were all going through the motions because that's what crazies on the board demanded.

I can’t believe after all the information released since the mRNA jab was introduced we are even discussing this.

Working at a hospital, required to get a flu shot each year. Then covid and required to get the shot and boosters. Coincidentally doctors aren't saying specifically that my heart issues are related to the covid shot. Since retiring, have not taken either and won't ever again.