Got pulled over on the way home after a 16 hrs shift. Cop said the reason was my license plate light was out. He ran my license and gave me a written warning. I stopped at the next gas station and looked since I have replaced them less than 2 years ago. They both were working just fine. Now it was no problem just added 10 mins to my drive home but clearly another example of why I have a negative opinion of most cops. Lie to stop to poke around the old beat up truck. Seemed like he was expecting a younger individual to screw with not such a distinguished looking gentleman. Now if he wanted a legit reason he could have said my busted turn single on the front from hiting the deer last month.

If I thought it would do any good I would file a report but that would be pointless. Lie over something so simple and break the law with illegal stop he will do much worse illegal things. If nothing else reinforce negative public opinions.

There's a town on State Route 36, in Ohio called St. Paris. Diane calls it Evil St. Paris. If you drove through late at night, unless somebody else was pulled over, you were getting pulled over. My friend James and I would go frogging at some really good ponds on the other side and come back through at around 2:30am. We always got pulled over, until James put veteran plates on his van, like I suggested. The last time we got pulled over, I asked the cop why he stopped us, he quickly said don't worry you're not getting a ticket. When I insisted he tell us why, he got flustered and said "You have a tail light out or something." I said show me and started to get out. He said stay in and get out of here. When we got back to James's farm, all the tail lights worked.

Years apart, both of my grandmothers died in Troy, on the far side of St. Paris. I got stopped twice coming back from visiting each of them, taking the late death watch. Diane yelled at the cop the last two times.

When I had my security company, several of my most incompetent guards worked for St. Paris. We paid them almost $3.00 an hour higher than St. Paris did. I think St. Paris paid $5.40 an hour. They worked there to keep their police certifications opened, while they tried to get a job with a better small department. In Ohio, your certification expires after graduation, if you don't work for a licensed police department at least once every 6 months.

I hate St. Paris.

Keith

Maybe the old beat up truck has a loose connection and the tag light was out when he pulled you over.

Not a chance its a smaller town I have to drive through that's almost become part of my home town because of growth. 3 Newburg( last nights stop) 1Chandler( the worse like Keith's example) and 2 boonville are the 3 largest town in Warrick county and all 3 are the same. Numbers ranked 1 to 3 in how bad worse at 1.

Request the dash cam footage

Only a 16 hour shift?

After a 16 hour shift he knew you needed a rest stop so you could make it home safely. You should of thanked him.

They're just after you PF!

Should have gotten out and looked when he stopped you,

Yep

If you're that sure, then file a complaint and make an appt to talk to the chief or sheriff and share your thoughts.

It does sound like he was fishing though.

What time of night was it ? What made the stop illegal? Many a drunk or felon been arrested during a traffic stop. Guy was just doing his job. Thousands of people who had loved ones killed by drunk drivers wish that driver had been pulled over “ illegally “ before tragedy happened. Sorry the 10 minutes out of your life cost you so much you will waste hours on here complaining about it.

Sorry this is a touchy subject for me.
Enjoy the rest of the comments

There must be probable cause to pull someone over, they can't just lie and say a light doesn't work to establish probable cause

So...you condone illegal stops cause maybe, just in case, you find a drunk?, seriously? What country you operating in?

In what world is a law enforcement supervisor or sheriff going to tell an underling to quit fishing????????? It was a quick stop and no judge or jury is going to do anything about it either. It's the world we live in. Unless you get pulled out of your vehicle, arrested beaten tazed shot or some egregious behavior or combination just go on. Its not going to stop.

P.S. Around here they "smell marijuana" or the "dog alerted". Start going through your vehicle. I do not see that stopping either.

Only needs to believe there was a violation. Since you have no fines to pay what’s the point.


Based on the SCOTUS and Indiana court of appeals the traffic stop was perfectly legal.

https://marclopezlaw.com/do-the-indiana-police-have-to-tell-me-why-they-stopped-me/amp/

Complaints can prove a pattern of abuse. You're right, a complaint will do nothing, a history of multiple complaints can add up though

Then it should be "hey I stopped you because I thought your liscense plate light was out, I see it is working, have a good day.

thats funny

the FBI did a study and found that basically every troubled department , usually they determined troubled by number of very questionable to bad shoots , had something in common.

the department derived much of it's revenue from citations , so everyone was getting a citation for every head light or any small thing, that wore on the people they knew they were getting pulled over to fund the department , tensions ran high and moral among officers was bad. anyone who could leave for another department did and so you only got the not as good cops.
you see the people with larger land holdings didn't like the property taxes and knew they were also much less likely to get pulled over so they funded the elections for people who would shift department funding to citation based funding.


on the flip side , when gangs were trying to move into Green county from Beloit we spent a lot on overtime pulled a lot of cars over.
got known as the don't speed or have anything wrong with your car town and county.

we have Educational stops as they call them , this is hey we don't want to give you a ticket but you do need to get the light fixed or whatever it is. but you also can't lie to make a stop.

as my son says , profiling isn't ineffective , they aren't wrong , it is just not PC
a car with all blacked out windows and every part of the car buzzing from the base played on the stereo , driving around in a small farm town might need directions back to the state road.
because if it was locals they would already know who they were.

I am not condoning illegal stops , and I do think when we drive our older vehicles assumptions are made about us.

PF....your truck probably fits the profile of a meth runner or a possible

DWI candidate....being from the 20th century

Can’t even stop a vehicle for a license light issue here it’s a secondary issue only if your stopped for a primary reason can it be brought up then.

If it’s not a “legal” stop, then it’s illegal. Should be able to do more than just file a complaint.

I guess you have never had an encounter with nervous cop pulling his gun on you with get back in the car get back in the car now .

You were profiled.

Yep, if he would work an 8 hour shift, none of this would have ever happened.

It was not late just a little after 11pm shift this week is 7 am to 7 pm but I stayed over 4 hrs so got off at 11pm But that is irrelevant. It appears your of the mide set of trading freedom for the illusion of safety and would be very happy living in 1930s Germany with papers pleas and gladly pick the boot if it keeps you safe or you think it may. It won't and you loose freedom but with that mind set you don't deserve the freedom to begain with.

I couls ask I sure wish a cop stopped the kid that ran the light and killed my some for no reason delaying him so he was bot at the intersection and didn't run the lite and hit us. BUT life is dangerous and crap happens.

So I guess the Supreme Court ruling saying that the officer believes that there is a violation means nothing. Sounds like the vehicle is a rolling violation. OP even confessed that lights were broken due to a deer impact. Maybe he should’ve wrote him a ticket for that then he wouldn’t been whining like a spoiled rich guy for getting stopped. Sir if this is the worst thing that happens to you this week be sure to thank the lord for being blessed!!!!

The saying is if you want to stop a vehicle just follow it for a few minutes. I see real violations everywhere in a days time some extremely dangerous moves like blowing rural stop signs because they are familiar just an accident waiting to happen.

I don't care about the stop its the lying about my and making it under false presence. He needs to articulate reasonable suspicion. He didn't say I thought your lite was out he said it was. A clear lie to cover his stop. I pointed out reason he could use for stop for a reason mostly ther was no need to make something up. This fourm is full of great people but a lot of boot lickers and simps with the age and rual demographic.

I think what the sc is saying is if a couple thugs in a red tempo just robbed a bank and your driving a red tempo in the area it reasonable for officer to pull you over because he “thinks” you might have been involved. It doesn’t give police the right to pull you over and state a fake reason. Had OP been drunk and was pulled over for a fake reason it most likely would have been kicked for improbable cause. Just my opinion.

What freedom did you lose? Didn’t cost you a penny !! Did they take your truck ? Please tell us nazis what you lost ? People crying “my freedom is gone “ is getting old. Calling people nazi is so last year. Maybe the expenses can be tax deductible!! Oh wait THERE WASNT ANY!!
Heck you don’t know the 10 minutes you lost might have saved you from having a wreck. Hitting another deer. Geez find a real problem to get in the internet and whine about…
Have a great one. Time for bed 3 rd shift blows

Here , if you get out they start getting nervous.......might get gunned down , on account you " might" have a gun


License plate light ...........number one go to for revenue generators

Yeah paid that cops salary from fines collected for a written warning

If you are ok with cops lie about small things because its just an inconvenience I guess your also OK with serous corruption. Says a lot about your character.

But your correct its not illegal for cops to lie to you, that's been proven in court. I don't like dishonest people.

I agree I don't like working nights much anymore. Infact I only get about 4.5 hrs to sleep when I work 16s. So I don't want to spend 10 min of it with some small town want to be cop lieing about why he stopped me. How about while he was wasting time with me maybe he missed a drunk he should have pulled over that went down the road and killed a family. OR the delay may have caused me to be in a wreck i otherwise would not have .

You see the what it or how about game can be played non stop.

Send the written warning back to the Police Department with a note telling them the officer lied about stopping you so the warning doesn't count.

As the world turns..... never ending drama..

Absent a violation, or articulable reasonable suspicion you are involved in a specific crime, a traffic stop is a violation your Forth Amendment rights against unreasonable seizures.

Cops that do this should be fired because they are violating the public trust and your constitutional rights. Absent a valid reason for a stop, any evidence they find of a crime would be fruit of a poisonous tree and would be inadmissible in court. So, it is just stupid and lazy and unethical police work.

Most times if an officer wants to make a legal stop they can follow and catch you in an illegal lane change or something.

If I were ever stopped without cause I would file a formal complaint with the department demanding a review of the officer's body cam and car cam.

… I usually put on Waylon Jennings and run

Obviously not


They make more than one stop a day , don't you think ?

Crawford county WI cops have a hard on for license plate lights out so they stop people just to be a dick. I got stopped a little over a year ago for my license plate light out, which it was and I put a new bulb in it. Here's the annoying thing I was asked where are you coming from? He had to see me pull out of the parking lot of the place I work at along with 40 to 50 other cars. Meanwhile there's a big drug problem in this county and in PDC but they'll ignore an area and vehicles with known druggies in them. Kinda starting to think they ignore those areas, cars and people because they don't want to bother their friends and family. I'm not alone in that feeling either.

I support law enforcement, but it's becoming obvious that a lot of the officers out there shouldn't be in those jobs. I know that's in every occupation but those don't involve the public and enforcing laws.

Mountain might getcha but the law never will.

I figured you as a dukes of hazard or smoky and the bandit song guy.

The sheepdogs dont protect the sheep because they care about the sheep, and they don't work for the sheep. Sheepdogs work for the shepherd, to protect the financial interests of the shepherd. The sheepdogs are a tool used by the shepherd to make money.

That from experience or just crap you like to like make up you talk a lot and say so little!

To the cops credit he only asked where i was headed and if I had ever been in any trouble and about my address he was unfamiliar with the small town 127 miles away. I didn't get where are you coming from and is there any guns in the car even though I know he had to see the bosex of ammo in the glove box when I opened it for registration and he was right there at the pasanger side window.

He was fishing and i knew it and he knew I knew it. In all a nice guy and doing likely exactly as he was trained if not in formal training how his trainers trained him when he started on the street.

Experience. I worked for a police department as a mechanic for 13 years and interacted with cops on a daily basis.

Slacker

Is Kentucky and Indiana constitution carry states?

Did he ask if you had a weapon ... especially at 11 pm

Consider yourself lucky that you don't fit the category "DWB". Guaranteed to get stopped willy-nilly lots of times.


(DRIVING WHILE BROWN)

How did you make enough as a mechanic to retire after 13 years of work?

Theres a reason you were a mechanic!

ACAB

Some years ago a co worker and I went out for dinner(we both worked for the feds and were staying in govt housing).We were coming off a dead end road,the restaraunt was at the end of the road.Road went thru a residential area,speed limit was 25 but because of the condition of the road you very rarely went over 20.Red lights and a siren comes up behind us,a Michigan state police officer gets out and asks where we're going.He looks my license and registration over and then asks for my passenger's and my passenger asks "why?". Officer gets flustered and says we were crossing the middle yellow line.Then he asked where we worked and we tell him for the Dept.of the Interior.His faced turns red tells me to keep on my side of the road and leaves.We both look at each other with a," what was that all about"?What was more bizarre was the road didn't have a yellow center line.

You won't see me cheerleading for cops. Too many of them trample on the Constitution. Not all, but too many.

Regardless, these PF posts are always pure gold. No offense, but some people just live in a state of constant drama.

…. And that’s still a vast improvement compared to how the law operates in the countries they came from lol

After scraping hides for a couple hours, then going to work for 8-more, I got pulled over in a sleety rain storm for hugging the shoulder line. The cop said I was weaving and asked if I’d been drinking. I told him I was tired and the sleet was making it hard to see the dashed lines in the road (it was a 4-lane). He was about to run my plates when I told him I had a carry permit. He immediately handed back the license and registration and told me to get some rest.

It takes 45-minutes to run a carry permit thru the National database and cops here don’t want to waste that time. Next time you get pulled over, give him your carry permit and tell him to run it. Tell him he can call you at home when he finds out you’re a law abiding citizen.

Just like too many lawyers trample on the truth it’s easier to pick out the better ones. LMAO

It’s amazing 2 of the most annoying unhelpful guys on here love judging others it’s ironic.

The police don't use sheepdogs. Anyhow, I've seen night vision videos of those Great Pyrenees killing the financial interests. (sheep) Granted not all do, but it probably happens more than you think.

Sorry for the derailed thought. Carry on with OP.

Yep. It's because I was darn good at it. They thought so, too.

You got me there Compadre!

Amazingly enough, I keep my vehicle in good shape (no blown lights or the like) and drive the speed limit. Haven’t been pulled over in +20 years.

Been checked by the Feds waterfowl hunting more than any other encounter. Stayed cordial and they go on their way.

Maybe I’m just lucky like that…

Glad you survived it. Theres cops I don’t like either out there, a bad cop is a danger to other cops so they get weeded out ASAP it’s not for everyone it’s a very consuming profession some handle it better than others.

Not retired. Just a career change of sorts. Being a mechanic was just a paycheck for me. It had no meaning beyond that. Now I do something that has meaning to me. Wifey makes money now, at a job that has meaning to her beyond just a paycheck. She works at a youth prison of sorts, which is basically just an extension of what she did with her volunteer work before. And she's darn good at it too. Her facility houses the worst of the worst kids in the state, and she fights gang bangers and murders on an almost daily basis, along with talking them through the hardest parts of their lives like a caring mother, which these kids have never had. She's a legit badarse. She's already been promoted to lead others after less than a year, and is well on her way to becoming a supervisor. (I'm pretty proud of her, if you can't tell.)

But this is started by to derail the thread.

Then I am really lucky. My last encounter with the police was in 1974 when i got a ticket for doing 35 in a 25 zone. I was going downhill. I come in contact with a lot of game wardens. No issues there either.

"you talk a lot and say so little!"

[/b]On Tman? Nahhhhh[b]

I once paid a mechanic that didn’t fix the problem they all just want the money so I talked to a lawyer and he wanted even more than the mechanic did! LOL

I was hurt, broke mislead with no justice but I got out of bed the next morning anyway.

J/K

Here permits don't take long to run. I used to hand mine over with my license but after the cops saw it they got nervous and posture changed. Like I would warn them I had a gun if I were going to be a threat to them. After a couple times of that I quit giving the permit.

In the last few years the law has changed and no permit is required to conceal carry. But they still like to ask any guns in the car. My response typically depends on my mood. May be why are guns illegal or absolutely several with enthusiasm that shocks them. Then they repeat the question so you have guns in the car and I reply Its Southern Indiana doesn't everyone and if they don't they should.

Most of them are not bad guys just poorly trained and have a touch of authority complex. You could not pay me enough to do their job and they sure don't get paid much.

I don't have a problem with police for the most part, but I'm still disgruntled over the jerk that pulled me over 3 times in 2 weeks for having a ball on the bumper of my pickup.

I got pulled over for following to close to a funeral procession, then got a ticket for not stopping for police with there lights on. Last thing she said as she handed me a ticket for $383.00 was if you don't agree you can go to court, and I said I'll see you there. I showed up she did not, I believe I would have won but the judge threw it out. This lawyer stuff is easy.

so my last interaction with a cop was the first time I ever handed over my CCL , I only did it because I was going through my wallet by feel I was messed up left in an ambulance with a neck brace.
I handed him the card holder section that flips out of my wallet that holds my DL in one clear compartment and CCL in the other.

he was way more interested in my insurance card than if I had a weapon , he never asked guess he figured I was in no shape to use it if I had one or i have no idea.

I still have never been asked if I have a gun/weapon.
they don't take any time to run here either.
we are only required to present CCL if asked.
you know the ambulance didn't ask or check either.
the Dr helped me get my pants off in the ER , they cut my shirt off wasn't too worried about that.
but no one ever checked if I had a weapon so I just didn't say anything

they ask about even knives at the ER check-in desk but apparently nothing if the ambulance brings you in.

There are a lot of folks that are really good people but when they put on the police uniform something changes. My biggest complaint is that they don’t police their own ranks. On the rare occasion it does happen, they keep it on the ‘down low’ and that person finds a job for another department.

One of my neighbors is a local deputy. He pulled me over a couple years ago as my nephew and I were headed home from youth hunting on family land that borders the place he rents. Said his partner had heard a gunshot and then arguing. I had to laugh as I explained my nephew had gotten quite excited after killing his deer.

He apologized and left. I have been running my traps after dark in the evening as that is when time permits. Have met him several times while driving my UTV on the county road by his house. He hasn’t stopped me yet but I bet it is coming eventually.

You guys must live in a state that is using antique computers. Police here run your plate before the get out of the car. It pops up if you have a concealed carry permit. I got stopped in my wife’s vehicle running 89 in 70 zone. Officer walked up. Ask me if I had my csc firearm on me. I told him yes. Only time I ever been pulled over in 45 years of driving. Told me to slow down sent me on my way.

After a pm seems OP is getting profiled since he gets stopped constantly.

Unlike the Peoples Republic of Minnesota, Indiana is a constitutional carry state. No permit.

If Walz is doing such a decent job maybe he can correct this injustice.

In Pennsylvania, you have no duty to inform that you are carrying a weapon. Also, police are not allowed to keep a database of who has a CCW based on license plate information.

I also have never been asked whether or not I was carrying.

I only informed once and that was because the cop could clearly see my handgun sticking out of the top of my briefcase on the passenger seat.

He had pulled me over in my work van thinking I had an expired inspection sticker. He asked me for my drivers license and registration. I told him it was in my briefcase right next to my handgun which he could clearly see. He became irritated and said, “Just get it.” So I did.

He asked me if I knew why he had pulled me over. I said, “I have no idea.” He stepped forward and looked at my windshield stickers, stepped back, handed me my license and registration and said I thought I saw a three. I said, “You did, that’s my weight class sticker.”

He had already realized his mistake and was walking back to his patrol car. I yelled out the window, “Are we done?”
He didn’t answer, just got in his patrol car and left. I think he was pretty embarrassed.

But, at least he was cool about the gun.

I don't believe any cop is going to pull his gun on you if you politely inform him you are going to step out and look at the problem.

Your life experience are clearly different than mine and shape that native view. It's reasonable until it gets proven wrong. It only takes one experience to change people's views.

…. I accidentally tackled a cop one night in the middle of a brawl

… roughed me a little over it once they got me outside lol

they run your license for everything here , I had hit a deer was pulled over in a private parking lot just off the county highway hood up adding water, he had already called in disabled motorist , so he ran my license , they do it to make sure you have no warrants.

he told me I wouldn't have any trouble the rest of the way home , he was the only deputy on for the west side of the county that night.

which is also why almost every deputy and rural cop is now running a plate carrier with 2 AR mags and 3-5 pistol mags around here. they know they are the only one on for half a county and help is at least 20 minute away.

Yes, my natives must be different than yours.

It is against Pennsylvania regulation for the State Police to maintain a database of firearms owners, therefore they cannot see that you own one or have a CCW (called a LTCF in PA) by running your plate number.

They were caught in violation of this regulation and sued by a 2A lawyer I'm acquainted with. It cost them some money and embarrassment.

It's all about generating revenue.

Next time you get one of these illegal stops, whip out your phone and record the lies.

Mmm but no revenue was generated!! He got a warning and was released to continue. Sequel 19 to be released before 2026

Also they ask a lot of gun questions looking for illegal firearms to seize.

So now we're entertaining hypotheticals to warrant detaining someone. Fantastic.

Maybe this cop should've just pulled his piece and smoked PF on the spot... Just in case he might become a serial killer in 10 years.

This is a perfect example of why law enforcement is losing when it comes to public image.

Mike

Questions you don't have to answer.

I have a cpl and believe by MI law I have to let the officer know that and tell him if I am carrying. I am smart enough not to stress a public servant about the presence or lack of presence of a gun. That would be a dick move.

I have six daughters all of which but 1 is driving. I treasure patrols. Wish more were around my neck of the woods. If you are not breaking the law all they can cost you is some time.

BTW we all profile everyday. Think about it. For example: I have a job applicant come in that has had 4 jobs in the last year. Red flag.

People typically complain about the law when they are in the wrong or want to be a constitution hero. I love the constitution but give us all a break.

A dirty cop would use that for an excuse to beat you to a pulp, and then plant his half drank Bud Lite in your drink holder.
Therefore I'm voting nope on getting out.

We all profile every day. No doubt about that. And in this case we are profiling a certain profession.

Mike

My profile as well as others is different than yours. Wonder why?

Because you like the taste of boot?

Mike

Possible, I guess, but not likely. Even small town cops have body and dash cams these days.

lol good reply. I doubt many on this site have been pulled over or given tickets more than myself. For many of my younger years I was at very close risk of loosing my license and paid a annual driver responsibility fee to the state due to points I had incured. Also had a mouth and attitude on me. Some how could not get any of those pricks to give me a good booting. Tried as I did but failed.

Shame could has used me a good booting though. Prob. would have changed my ways sooner!

Cool. I meant licking boots if that clears it up for you.

And just to avoid having you jump to any conclusions about my past "negative experiences" involving law enforcement... None. Never even had a parking ticket.

I have however been privy to the hiring process for the police department in our town. Actually went to school with the guy who is now our police chief. Nice guy but the biggest doofus you'll ever meet. Couldn't hold down a job in any other line of work.

Had another one that couldn't pass the psych eval to join the army... But CLEET certified him.

I could go on and on...

And it's not just our little town, we've heard the same thing from other municipalities in the surrounding areas.

And I'm smart enough to know that there are plenty of good cops out there. But in reality, "the few bad apples" seems to be about half.

Mike

Was originally training to be a police officer right out of high school. Two professors were such little "little man syndrome" word I can't say. That I was unimpressed enough to quit the career direction after investing almost two years in it. After many life experiences from the very bad to good I would greatly disagree with your 50% bad apples half. Only chimed in on this post cause I am tired of the anti blue crap. Most of these posts come from the same folks. B.S. I say but just my opinion.

Just read each and every post, I'll give you my perspective. I spent 25 years in law enforcement, 20 with the Kentucky State Police, 5 of them with a Sheriffs Office after I retired from KSP. I've stopped thousands of vehicles in my career, to include, "rear license not illuminated" which is the violation here in KY. Most traffic charges are violations, not misdemeanors or felonies, although they can turn into those if certain criteria is met. Example, speeding 26 MPH or over can then escalate to reckless driving, or even wanton endangerment if certain elements are met.

I did not wake up every day to violate peoples rights, harass them, inconvenience them, or play "tough guy." I knew I wanted to be in LE from the time I was 16 and took the necessary steps to achieve my goal. I had spent 7 years in the Army (Military Police) before I joined KSP. When I came out of the KSP Academy in 1996, I had plenty of "life experience" from my Army days, which also included a deployment to the first Gulf War.

I never felt the "need" to manufacture, or lie, about a traffic stop to the person I was stopping. There are far too many moving violations out there to lie about why I was stopping you. If it was for a "rear license not illuminated", I would check you DL, registration, and insurance, make some small talk, then send you on your way with a verbal or written warning if it went smoothly. But, I will tell you without a doubt, I was always on the lookout for other indicators which would lead me beyond the initial stop. People talk, "I pay your salary" , so I would respond with yes sir or yes maam, I wouldn't want you to think I'm not earning my pay, so I'm doing what you pay me to do. Some thought was hilarious, some understood, and some just, well, you know........ The biggest load of drugs I took off a traffic stop was for excessive window tinting. I can say this with absolute clarity, the people committing crimes, which often involves a vehicle, aren't blatantly committing traffic violations, they are trying to "blend in" or be normal drivers like everyone else.

Agreed, with the OP that he has a right to be upset and angry if his license plates lights do indeed work. I will not defend that. I will also agree that todays LE officers seem to be a "different" breed. I started to notice that change around the mid 2000's or so.

We could talk about "tactics" all day long when it comes to traffic stops, but as long as I could see "hands", I didn't get too wound up. If I could not, and you argued with me about please putting them on the steering wheel, or continued to ignore my request to see them, then we would have an issue. I think any "reasonable" person would/could understand that. Every situation is different and it can change in milliseconds....

my brother got pulled over 26 times in two weeks a few years ago not one charge or fine he complained to the police dept after the first ten and it didnt slow down so we brought it to the attention of a different deptmart and it stopped right away

Tree frog ain’t gonna like this one

… few years ago I was running a predator line up in Crockett

… I had come home to shower and see the family after I ran the line

… on the way back .. a buddy of mine called and said there was pool tournament at buckshots in point blank

.. shoot that was right on the way lol

… stopped in .. hammered a few lonestars and won the tournament

… left for camp about midnight… next town was trinity

… when I passed the brookshire brothers I seen a town cop fall in right behind me and ride up with a quickness

… he tailgated me to the city limit sign … I was the only one on the road

… pulled me over just before I made it past the sign

… said it was because I crossed a yellow line and had blood all over my tailgate

… did the field test and passed in my opinion

… then ask me to provide a breath sample

… I refused and he took me to jail … I went to sleep

.. they woke me up later with a court order to draw my blood

… I was cracking jokes with ems lady sent in with a needle

… she was laughing so hard that the ol gal barely got a vein lol

… anyway… I went up to groveton and hired Joe Scott Evans

.. everything dropped for an illegal stop

… never even had to show up for court

… got released on that cold rainy morning and walked a mile through town where that tow truck driver had my truck at his house…. Got squared up and went and ran the line lol

bs

he would have to have not had a job and got pulled over as his primary job.

You got a warning, didn’t check the claim at that time, and cops are bad. So you believe this officer was bored, made a bogus claim just as an excuse to pull you over, then just wrote a warning? Conspiracy much???

… think this was the first time I put a reply in here that was … TLTR

… PF rubbin off on me I guess lol

It was pretty long but I suffered through it, lol.

No that is fact. Lights work fine but was claimed reason for the stop was because they were not. Nothing conspiracy about it. Cop was so dumb he made up a bs excuse easy to see was false instead of any # of real and valid reason for a stop.

Yep, and request body cam footage. It’s your FOIA right and privilege. I’ve watched some on game wardens, and it’s surprising, to say the least.