So Nabisco and general motors are moving production back to the U.S. and Mexico has given us permission to cross the border with our troops to fight the cartels. Wow Trump gets things done.

President Trump gets more accomplished in hours than biden got accomplished.

Keith

Nice !!!

Such A Great Feeling

Than Biden got accomplished in 50+ years.

Fixed it for you.

wws

Yup met oncoming business on I 35 and maybe a few outgoing illegals

Nothing against president Trump. But be ready for price increases.

"Got accomplished" meant in his entire lifetime.

Keith

Has he tweeted anything mean lately?

Truth

Excellent

Companies moving production back this has not made it to any news source and prices still going up around here improvement is coming when last I heard 25 were taking leave of the US.

I read a article that they might move out of Mexico if tariffs are applied, but the 24 hr trade war was is over and no tariffs on Mexico. Also the GM CEO stated that if they did so it would add about $7000 average to the price of most of their vehicles.

Wonder just what the US is paying Mexico for the "Privilege"?

Well Toyota seems to keep pricing competive so I'm not believing 7000.

I hope ao. Then all the people Trumps laid off or fired can get a job and be able to support their families again.

GM products are not worth 1500.00 a truck much less their 50 - 110 grand a truck! But they got to pay those union thugs their 'living wage' so quality goes down hill as price goes up, no idea why anyone would buy the junk being made now days, guess people only keep a vehicle 2-4 years then buy another one.

Not sure we have anymore room here for more auto factory's. Union's killed Detroit so everyone built here, Toyota, Hyndai, Honda, Mercedes, etc.

I'm sure the GM CEO is an honest guy.

I don't buy GM anymore, so oh well

Said it before not one person that has run for office to lead the USA has ever posted numbers as to how many companies have left.

Yes get a real job in the private sector instead of clinging to the government teat , hosing the taxpayers.

lol

"I'm sure the GM CEO is an honest guy." Wrong Mary Barr is female. I spelt her name wrong but that is how it is said.....jk

I thought he was going to "drain the swamp". Huge, bloated departments of this and that right under his nose in D.C., and he's cutting park rangers in Iowa and such. People who don't make a lot of money and do real work. It's ridiculous.

I don’t get it, I’ve worked the private sector all my life and have always had a “plan B”. It was common practice to learn and be as versatile as you could in the event things don’t work out where you are. I carry two employment opportunities around in my wallet for this very reason. Have no idea what it feels like to think this is the last job I’m ever gonna have.

take money from productuctive people pay it to unneeded government employees. Or cut the wast and leave that money in the people that made its pockets. They them take that money and buy things that betters their life. Thar createds jobs that produce not drain. Those employees can now get jobs that produce that were created.

I didn't say or imply it was the end of the world for laid off employees, Hobbie. They will find ways to carry on lust like anybody else. But just because some of these are federal jobs doesn't automatically make them useless.
Somebody has to run and maintain parks and such. I suppose they could be made into private sector jobs, which could work. But there is no plan to do so.

10-4.

Not only will you have to pay the worker you will also pay

If they choose to use private sector jobs its going to cost more. Not only will you have to pay the worker you will also pay
owner of company who, by the way, doesn't work cheap,and office personal, not to mention insurance etc Oh and equipment.

We lost a few guys as well cause they are going at warp speed, as they figure out some that don't need to be let go they are called back both our guys came back. Probably be the same with parks and everything else. But they are cutting in ALL dept's not just some.

I figure the only way to cut the fat is use a chopping axe to do it. The whole scalpel approach has been tried for decades and obviously it doesn't work. I figure like you do Jtrap, they'll figure out who's actually doing the work and will bring them back. I don't know if y'all government trappers had to take "transgender studies" but I figure that guy or gal employed to teach such will be SOL when it comes to federal employment.

Couldn’t agree more with what you’re saying. Bunch of leeches in DC and kids fresh out of college trying to start their careers are getting axed. He’s taking the low-hanging fruit because it’s easy, but losing these people is going to harm the productivity of land management agencies.

I’m headed to the Tetons in June. Really concerned about my trip for this very reason.

Funny I can't think of a single thing the government runs that is cheaper or as efficient and privet sector. post office vs ups, and fed x are first that come to mind.

As to the thread title, I’ve worked in Pharmaceutical manufacturing my entire life. Plant closed down during Obama as the production from our facility in VA was offshored to China and India. Plant opened back during the first year Trump was doing his first term. Barely scrapped by with Biden. Just announced $100s of millions in investments for our site within 2 weeks or Trump being back. I’ve seen it all first hand through all of the Administrations over the past 30 years and I’ll continue to vote Red.

And I bet the drug prices didn't go down with the move to China either did they?

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Maybe we should turn over all US Forest Service land to Weyerhaeuser. Let the commercial fish companies take over managing our fish stocks from the National Marine Fisheries Service. I am sure all the cattleman associations would do a great job managing BLM. Etc, etc

Interesting read What comes to my mind is during the bama era the big 3 car companies got huge handouts because they were going broke while moving offshore anybody on here check their plate in the door to see their vehicles origin Does a truck made in Mexico cost half what it costs to build one in the USA Remember when GM shut down the Saturn
plant when saturn made a better vehicle then GM did Why did ford close down their ranger production in Kansas How about the payoff they got for EV production I"m amazed how many have forgotten the last 4 years already

Hahahaaa price of everything just went up 50% over the past 4 years.Now your worried about a price increase.

Fairly confident prices went up. Less competition from U.S. suppliers.

exactly the prices didn't go down the increase profffit went the the corporate bonus pot.

same as Union jobs so many hear don't like and blame for the high cost of trucks. yet can't explain why tricks made in Mexico and Non union Toyota trucks are not any less expensive. Nope it has to be those union wages making the prices high.

The disconnect is real. Union or not I would rather have the jobs in the US putting Americans to work and being in control of our production especially critical things like steel, lead, fuel, micro chips. It's the only way to reduce supply chain interruptions And be able to build a war machine like we did in WW 2. Will be nice to get back headed in that direction.

They will be made into private jobs, maybe not things like park rangers etc, when your National Parks and such are sold off. lol

And they won't go down with those jobs moving back to the U.S., either. But at least those jobs will be here, and that is a good thing.

Lost in all this is what a government job WAS.
Growing up it was well known that most government jobs were on the lower end of the pay scale. Trade off was if you took them you got health benefits, job security, certain pension beyond SS and a few more things. Mailmen, field people for forest service, fish and wildlife, road maint, teachers … huge etc. I never knew a teacher back then who didn’t have a summer gig to make more. Those of us who went for instance into construction didn’t have the job security, had to adjust for insurance needs, and always had looming uncontrollable layoffs to deal with. It pretty well leveled the playing field private versus government employment.

What makes these government workers who dont do anything of substance, or provide product or service of valu beyond cost to
the taxpayers any different than those with the ability to work but are living off welfare?
When a small company can come and smoke the massive NASA cow, when private schools can put the government education behemoth to shame and there are many more examples, it’s long overdue the government face the elephant in the room. Repercussions. They work and are needed.

My only wish is there is not a more cutting higher up the government food chain. I think that is coming tho.
Maybe those who are being laid off can learn more and work for these returning companies. Glass half full.

Osky

Ok honest question. Do you guys have enough us citizens to run all these factories that are coming. Lots I'm sure are lower paying crappy jobs so is your unemployment rate that high? It all sounds good in thereoy

Yes but the growing pains are going to be just that, painful physically and mentally.

Yes. Hopefully a lot of government people will be looking for work.
It’s a lot easier for companies to meet a higher living wage for competent employees when the tax burdens are lower
There is a steel fab shop across from my commercial building with a sign out for help, starting at 26.00 per hr and benefits.
52k plus benefits doesn’t seem too crappy for a start?

Osky

You worry about Sackscratchawan,,we can take care of ourself here.

Looks like it! Lol

Its a yes and no type of answer that could take days of discussion but I'll try to make a quick stab at it from my perpective.

The people exist but we have developed a fairly deep culture in this country that will make it difficult to gear up readily and perhaps not at all. Most significant manufacturing facilities in US are already chronically short staffed and we still require a mix of highly skilled to fairly low skilled staff to perform the work. Just looking at that can get us into the weeds in the conversation because things like long term investment and staffing have taken a backseat in last few years as many employers have been in the wait and see stance but even putting that to the side most big operations can't find a suitable workforce when they go looking (particularly in the post covid era). We put decades of emphasis on higher education without enough respect for other careers which turned alot of folks away from the blue collar/manufacturing work which really is the foundation of the post WW2 US economy that created our middle class and things like the concept of retirement. We like to think there is an easy button to hit and go backwards 50 years in time to the days before US consistently ran a trade deficit but its just not that simple or quick.

However, if you listen to Musk and Trump, part of the downsizing of the federal staff is with a hope to push folks back into the private sector; particularly the younger generation. Probably the biggest short term bang for the buck would be to divest the government ranks of the senior higher wage earners that are not at the peak of performance but they cant immediately pull that off and it takes skilled managers to even work thru those type of performance requirements over many months which isnt something that is in the typical government manager tool kit (in fact its lacking in private sector management as well). Looks to me that the initial round of layoffs is to show the country that they are serious and trying to make change with hope it'll lead to other bigger things longer term. I'd like to see some of the more "critical" type of US industries take a bigger role in the world once again while providing the US with a certain safety net. But even if we can staff facilities there are still going to be lots of situations where it simply doesnt make sense for a company to maintain a huge presence in the US. Companies exist to make money for the owners/shareholders; employing people etc is just a byproduct. And we need to remember that in this day and age a big bunch of companies that started doing business in US and continue to have a name brand presence here are now owned by foreign investors with a wide range of interests that may conflict with what the US wants.

Ultimately the wealth of nations has been built on harnessing its resources particularly if those can be used to produce goods. Providing a significant level of services at both the govt and private level is what happens when nations have succeeded in harvesting/producing and in the process become fatter and wealthier----we are just repeating our predecessors paths. Both govt and private sector service jobs can be important job creators and contributors to the economy but if there is nothing also being produced at the end of the day all we are doing is shifting dollars around within the nation. When the government starts producing too many of those jobs and essentially transferring the wealth well thats something we more expect to see happen overseas.

Labor participation rate is a little over 62 percent.

I think we can find some people.