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Been seeing some places around that no longer take cash. Was visiting with my buddy over the weekend, and he thinks they are gonna do away with cash all together. He's a bit of freelance welder type and only accepts cash as payment. He doesn't have a bank account or credit card.
Way things are going with these banking apps like Venmo, Zelle, Cashapp, etc. I'm thinking he may be right.
What I can't really comprehend is how things would work if one can't exchange goods or services with cash? Will we be forced to go digital in order to do business? Curious what T-man's thoughts were....
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16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Every time I see the push for a cashless society, I do wonder if there is truth in the prophecy in the Book of Revelations, because it really does seem to apply. A cashless society would be incredibly dangerous for those who dissent with the government. I don't want to see it ever happen.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Keith
IMHO, the mark is that cell phone in our right hand. Everything will eventually go through it. Occasionally we stick it up to our forehead. We are doing it to ourselves.
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Well it just cost too much to make coins and/or print money. Its pennies gone today, dollars gone tomorrow. That money is nasty, it has germs on it. You could die from touching it ! Store employees can stick cash in their pockets costing the store owner and they are passing that on to you. It will be a lot better to use scrip at the company store, support your employer. Just think, they can practically shut the drug trade down, reducing the need for tariffs and border patrol. Ever see a dope dealer standing on the corner with a credit card machine? We could save printing ink by just printing bills on one side. Could even bring the gray-backs back into circulation but those gray-backs aren't backed by anything like our fiat green-backs are ! Don't worry about getting caught with a sock full of a bunch of worthless dollars. They will still have value in the next toilet paper shortage. But you might want to be sure to change your big bills into smaller ones to stretch them farther. Now that will not be as important once you are on a strict ration of rice, your bathroom trips will be less. Not sure the bills will be septic tank safe, so make the necessary adjustments there. So what is the chance of your electronic money getting hacked? Slim to none, your government will reimburse you, after all they will have the records of all that and they care about you, pawns matter too !
This is just in jest, cheer up and have a laugh while you are still allowed to.
You can always pay a debt using cash, since it's illegal for a company not to accept it. This only applies to debts though, so anything you have to pay for in advance is fair game for cashless.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Keith
IMHO, the mark is that cell phone in our right hand. Everything will eventually go through it. Occasionally we stick it up to our forehead. We are doing it to ourselves.
That's a good possibility. In several countries, such as China, nearly everything is paid by holding your cellphone in your hand.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Keith
IMHO, the mark is that cell phone in our right hand. Everything will eventually go through it. Occasionally we stick it up to our forehead. We are doing it to ourselves.
Elon said there is something that is going to replace the cell phone too.
You can always pay a debt using cash, since it's illegal for a company not to accept it. This only applies to debts though, so anything you have to pay for in advance is fair game for cashless.
I use to think this also, but found its not true. There's no federal law requiring a business to accept cash as payment, and only a dozen states have a law requiring it.
Alaska isn't one of the dozen requiring it.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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#8402588 05/13/2506:47 AM05/13/2506:47 AM
They’d like that for tracking and taxation purposes I’m sure
Plus, easy please to SHUT YOU DOWN and lock you out electronically
This^^ Yep!
The technology is already in place with the credit/debit card machines.
When you swipe your card to buy necessities, the machine could prompt you to answer whether you've had the vaccine or whether your guns are registered. You could select "Yes", then be prompted for a gov-issued verification number.....
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Some form of currency will always be around, even if it's not government-issued bills and coins. We have a history of it here, just look at the whiskey tax, and the whiskey rebellion. Farmers were distilling their extra grain into whiskey and using the whiskey as a form of currency, and got rightfully (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) when the new federal government demanded that a tax on that whiskey be paid in cash.
Back then, when the government forced an unwanted form of money on the people, they rebelled by tarring and feathering the tax collector, riding him out of town on a rail, and burning down his house.
Some form of currency will always be around, even if it's not government-issued bills and coins. We have a history of it here, just look at the whiskey tax, and the whiskey rebellion. Farmers were distilling their extra grain into whiskey and using the whiskey as a form of currency, and got rightfully (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) when the new federal government demanded that a tax on that whiskey be paid in cash.
Back then, when the government forced an unwanted form of money on the people, they rebelled by tarring and feathering the tax collector, riding him out of town on a rail, and burning down his house.
Yep, And our first President rode lead to the Pittsburgh area to stomp it oit.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
They should just give everyone a tattoo and that’s what you scan to do anything in today’s world. It will be a number, a human number…..and that number is……… lol
Self check out will start being cards or apps only. It's easy to implement, hard to go back to normal. We could just start trading furs or goods for services, and ignore the stupid rules.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Actually we have several little jog in the road country stores that will give you a discount of what ever the fee is charged by the credit cards off esp. on gas.
The instigators of a cashless society use the cost of making money as an excuse to forgo cash, while promoting charging the store a use fee on every transaction which will funnel back to you. You get charged a % every transaction where as we only have to pay to make a dollar bill one time and use it til its wore out. Well at least the banks are making money.
They should just give everyone a tattoo and that’s what you scan to do anything in today’s world. It will be a number, a human number…..and that number is……… lol
Speaking of tattoos, the last place I got a tattoo at only takes cash, and I'm getting another one on Friday that takes cash or Venmo; I'll be using cash
Two years ago in Sweden it was plastic only. I never even saw a kronor transaction. Even street beggars had card readers.
In Oregon a state law was recently passed requiring all places to accept cash. But some haven't got the word. At our farmers market it used to be 100% cash. Now it is about 60-40 plastic.
I got a friend at church whose brother died in Arizona. His daughter got him a plane ticket for St. Louis. He got over there and had some luggage that was extra and he owns no credit or debit cards. He had cash and they wouldn't take it. He and a girl was getting into it and she called the manager. My friend Bob was ready to fight as he wasn't missing that funeral and he had to have his clothes that was in that suitcase. Well before things got out of hand the manager couldn't take cash but he could wave the charges, so that is what they did.
I got a friend at church whose brother died in Arizona. His daughter got him a plane ticket for St. Louis. He got over there and had some luggage that was extra and he owns no credit or debit cards. He had cash and they wouldn't take it. He and a girl was getting into it and she called the manager. My friend Bob was ready to fight as he wasn't missing that funeral and he had to have his clothes that was in that suitcase. Well before things got out of hand the manager couldn't take cash but he could wave the charges, so that is what they did.
Similar thing happened to a driver I had.
Took his woman to the city for their anniversary. Went to a nice steakhouse and he put cash in the folder for the bill. Waitress came, looked inside and said they don't take cash. He informed her they don't have credit cards and she might as well call the police because cash is all he has.
Another waitress ended up putting it on her card and took his cash, the waitress that waited on him didn't have one either, lol.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Every concert or sporting event I've went to in the past few years has been cash free.
If you dont have a CC, they have machines at the venues that will convert your cash into a free "gift card" basically for using at the event.
I can appreciate not having a credit card, but not having a debit card at least seems like it'd be difficult to do anything. No online purchasing would be hard in this day and age
Here's another interesting issue I've seen locally lately. Seems a lot of places charge a surcharge if you pay with a card. Same places give a discount for cash. What is the sticker price based on? Had some work done on the wives car a month ago. Was like $1,500. Place told me there'd be a 3% surcharge for paying with a card. OK, I'll go get cash. Showed back up, shelled out the bills and she says, there's a 5% discount for cash. Cool, but I have to know, how do you pay and get the price you quoted? Check? Bullion? She just laughed and said no ones ever asked that Local pizza place does the same thing, discount for cash and surcharge for cards.
This last Saturday at the Farmers market my effective charge from Square reader was 4.5%. So for every $100 i take in I'm losing four and a half on card purchases. What kind of burns me is most people prefer to pay with a card because of the cash back incentives.
I use e-checks quite alot. My auto insurance and State of Illinois license and taxes I use e-check. If I use credit or debit they charge me 3% to 5% extra, The checks still have to be run thru an Automated Clearing House but it must be cheaper that way for some reason.
Pay attention when you sign up for Social Security to the questions they ask you they are troubling if you think about it. Very personal financial information they already know and you just have to verify it they already have it.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
You can always pay a debt using cash, since it's illegal for a company not to accept it. This only applies to debts though, so anything you have to pay for in advance is fair game for cashless.
I use to think this also, but found its not true. There's no federal law requiring a business to accept cash as payment, and only a dozen states have a law requiring it.
Alaska isn't one of the dozen requiring it.
That's true I guess, in a technical sense. But if you don't pay and they take you to court and the court orders you to pay, you can pay in cash since it's legal to pay a court ordered payment using legal tender, which is basically just an extra step that ends up meaning you can pay in cash. Or so is my understanding, I'm not a lawyer.
Yeah, it's definitely an interesting shift happening with cash slowly disappearing in some places. It’s kind of wild to think about a world where we might have to rely on digital payments for everything, but it's already happening with apps like Venmo and CashApp taking over a lot of transactions
I bought pigeons from an Amish guy earlier today in Millersburg, Ohio. I paid him cash. He has a new greenhouse business. I also bought some pepper plants and sage from him and paid in cash too, but noticed he had a battery powered card reader on the counter.
It is a pretty touristy area. Some of the Amish will even pose with tourists for money, in there buggies. The strangest experience I had was buying exotic pheasants at the Mount Hope Swap, from 3 Amish teenagers in a solar powered golf cart. I once had to pick up an Amish guy at a Halloween party at a school, after dark. They used lanterns inside for light, but had solar powered lights in the detached bathrooms. I have lots of Amish phone numbers in my phone.
One of the advantages of using credit or debit to pay for things is the employers don't need near as many people that know how to make change or handle money etc. Even with cash registers that show how much change is due there are issues that cards can minimize.
Bryce
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#8403201 05/14/2512:09 AM05/14/2512:09 AM
How will I be able to bribe politicians without cash? Pretty sure politicians won't eliminate cash.
If bribery doesn't work, then the owners of the politicians will use extortion, blackmail, slander, and sextortion to achieve their goals. You ain't in the club Dirt.
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I bought pigeons from an Amish guy earlier today in Millersburg, Ohio. I paid him cash. He has a new greenhouse business. I also bought some pepper plants and sage from him and paid in cash too, but noticed he had a battery powered card reader on the counter.
It is a pretty touristy area. Some of the Amish will even pose with tourists for money, in there buggies. The strangest experience I had was buying exotic pheasants at the Mount Hope Swap, from 3 Amish teenagers in a solar powered golf cart. I once had to pick up an Amish guy at a Halloween party at a school, after dark. They used lanterns inside for light, but had solar powered lights in the detached bathrooms. I have lots of Amish phone numbers in my phone.
Keith
If you have never watched "Saving Sarah Cain" its a very good movie about the two cultures clashing. While its off Chancy's topic it does show a high class columnists gal keeping her emergency cash in a cookie jar.
Another good thing about the movie is the kids horse is named "Dobbin" which means "work horse" so naturally every time I watch it I'm also thinking of T-man !
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#8403318 05/14/2509:02 AM05/14/2509:02 AM
Old Judah used a combination of barter and credit for Tamar's services. He offered her a goat for her services but he didn't have the goat with him. She gave him credit but took 3 personal items as collateral. Those items being traceable back to Judah kept her from being burnt alive.
"In January 2024, Menendez was charged with corruption for promoting the interests of Qatar while receiving various illicit gifts such as cash, gold bars, and a Mercedes-Benz automobile"
"A New York jury has found the wife of a former New Jersey senator guilty for her role in a years-long bribery scheme that included stacks of cash, gold bars and a Mercedes-Benz."
"In January 2024, Menendez was charged with corruption for promoting the interests of Qatar while receiving various illicit gifts such as cash, gold bars, and a Mercedes-Benz automobile"
"A New York jury has found the wife of a former New Jersey senator guilty for her role in a years-long bribery scheme that included stacks of cash, gold bars and a Mercedes-Benz."