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U S A Economy will tank with tariffs ?
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02/03/25 03:11 AM
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Voted Trump.....3 X........would vote 4th X.... if I could. .....but he's bit off more than he can chew with tariffs........today is start of dems winning 2026 midterms......new housing construction in U S A......cannot survive with out Canada's and Mexico's products.........Trump's narcissism just will not end.......hold on to your hat if you ....your kids.....or your grandkids......will be affording a new home in near future.......
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
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02/03/25 03:15 AM
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Guess he better get it all done in 2 then.
I think “tank” is a bit exaggerating. There will be winners and losers, but the bubble will closer to being between the lines. If you are in a business that has been wringing its hands because the government had its thumb on the scale, better brace yourself. More so if you have been walking that wire and are just now thinking about a net below.
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-Goofy
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
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02/03/25 05:08 AM
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Voted Trump.....3 X........would vote 4th X.... if I could. .....but he's bit off more than he can chew with tariffs........today is start of dems winning 2026 midterms......new housing construction in U S A......cannot survive with out Canada's and Mexico's products.........Trump's narcissism just will not end.......hold on to your hat if you ....your kids.....or your grandkids......will be affording a new home in near future....... Do you studder in real life? And for your information the Paso a the Canadian dollar have both toke a nose dive How old are you?
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
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02/03/25 05:10 AM
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Your pretty narrow minded if you think tariffs are going to effect prices of this country we've been getting the shaft for years on tariffs.what about all the money that went to Ukraine,all of the military equipment that was left overseas let alone the illegals that are here and how much have we given them.not sure what kind of budget your running but it's kind of hard to keep spending if you don't have it to spend or get something in return.i get tired of people saying I voted for trump but now the tariffs are going to make everything more expensive THE MAN IS KEEPING HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISE it's more then you can say for most politicians. How was the economy when he was in office last time.
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02/03/25 06:32 AM
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You will have some pain with life saving surgery, I don't think this will be any different so buckle up.
It may seem worse than it is because prices are already at an all time high because of foolish spending that got us nowhere. Time to right the ship!
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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02/03/25 06:58 AM
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
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02/03/25 08:19 AM
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......new housing construction in U S A......cannot survive with out Canada's and Mexico's products........your kids.....or your grandkids......will be affording a new home in near future....... I know this part of your statement is completely off base. I've spoken with the owners and managers of three of the four building supply yards about the upcoming tariffs. These guys supply eastern PA and northern Jersey with lumber and other building materials. They tell me that the majority of their construction grade lumber never came from Canada, 60-70% is sourced from American suppliers. They will not be purchasing any high-dollar (due to tariffs) Canadian softwoods but will begin to source more from American suppliers. They did say that there may be short-term supply shortages and the resulting price increases while American suppliers ramp up production but that will only be temporary. That is pretty much one of the desired effect of the tariffs isn't it? To have American companies ramp up production? I don't know where the big box stores get there lumber from because I don't buy from them, so your mileage may differ. Spock out.
Eh...wot?
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02/03/25 08:20 AM
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Oh and, the insanely high price of homes has very little to do with the cost of lumber.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: houndone]
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02/03/25 08:48 AM
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You forgot the Smoot-Harley tariff. Read up on it. Canada has been doing you so dirty selling you so much crude at a discount that you in turn make 100’s of billions of it once refined. Yes, it’s a win for us but acting like it’s some sort of dirty move because your leader who can do no wrong says so doesn’t actually make it true, it just makes you a guzzler of “the kool aid”.
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02/03/25 08:52 AM
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The three large News Outlets will brain wash the people once again and tell them the worst and to hate the Man.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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[Re: rvsask]
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02/03/25 08:55 AM
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You forgot the Smoot-Harley tariff. Read up on it. Canada has been doing you so dirty selling you so much crude at a discount that you in turn make 100’s of billions of it once refined. Yes, it’s a win for us but acting like it’s some sort of dirty move because your leader who can do no wrong says so doesn’t actually make it true, it just makes you a guzzler of “the kool aid”. Just wondering why Canada don't keep the bad grade oil and refine it and make billions for themself?
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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[Re: snowy]
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02/03/25 08:56 AM
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The three large News Outlets will brain wash the people once again and tell them the worst and to hate the Man. I knew that response was coming, it was a given. lol Some YouTuber, authority on X or Facebook is clearly better for hearing what you want to hear. And I think we both know why Canada doesn’t keep all of that and refine it themselves, asking that is like asking why the USA sells corn to Mexico. Of course You have a trade deficit, you need a lot of stuff because you have a lot of people. The crude is the main reason for it and you turn it into a surplus.
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[Re: snowy]
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02/03/25 08:57 AM
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The three large News Outlets will brain wash the people once again and tell them the worst and to hate the Man. My son asked me to checkout a show. The wife and I gave it a watch, it was on cbs. Unfortunately the show was interrupted by commercials. The product commercials weren’t that big a deal but the station promoting commercials were over the top. lol
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Lugnut]
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02/03/25 09:04 AM
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......new housing construction in U S A......cannot survive with out Canada's and Mexico's products........your kids.....or your grandkids......will be affording a new home in near future....... I know this part of your statement is completely off base. I've spoken with the owners and managers of three of the four building supply yards about the upcoming tariffs. These guys supply eastern PA and northern Jersey with lumber and other building materials. They tell me that the majority of their construction grade lumber never came from Canada, 60-70% is sourced from American suppliers. They will not be purchasing any high-dollar (due to tariffs) Canadian softwoods but will begin to source more from American suppliers. They did say that there may be short-term supply shortages and the resulting price increases while American suppliers ramp up production but that will only be temporary. That is pretty much one of the desired effect of the tariffs isn't it? To have American companies ramp up production? I don't know where the big box stores get there lumber from because I don't buy from them, so your mileage may differ. Spock out. so your saying it will do exactly the same thing his tarrifs on steel did the first go around. Who would have thought?? Temp price increas and then price drops to lowered level than before. And more Americans to work and larger gdp. It's easy to look into yet so many just jump on the hysteria of the media. Great post by the way.
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[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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02/03/25 09:04 AM
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Just wondering why Canada don't keep the bad grade oil and refine it and make billions for themself? Absence of intelligence? That is what I was thinking. If that is the case, it isn't very smart as a business/country to not better it's own.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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02/03/25 09:12 AM
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Lumber???
I had 9 30" white fir butt logs here that could not find a buyer.
While A sheet of flooring plywood, or ONE SS 2x10 12 was $60 each.
Weather event, supply chain, influenza my hyner.
Too many involved that don't do a dam thing.
Crankcase out lol.
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[Re: rvsask]
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02/03/25 09:15 AM
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asking that is like asking why the USA sells corn to Mexico.
Cause they need to make them Tortilla's.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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02/03/25 09:26 AM
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Voted Trump.....3 X........would vote 4th X.... if I could. .....but he's bit off more than he can chew with tariffs........today is start of dems winning 2026 midterms......new housing construction in U S A......cannot survive with out Canada's and Mexico's products.........Trump's narcissism just will not end.......hold on to your hat if you ....your kids.....or your grandkids......will be affording a new home in near future....... In the grand scheme of things the USA economy will be just fine with these tariffs. Using 2023 data, Texas has the worlds 8th largest GDP whereas Canada is 12th, Russia is 13th and Mexico is after that. Last time I checked Texas was not even a country! The USA GDP is close to 28 trillion dollars while Canada sits close to 3 trillion dollars. Chris
>>In God we trust<<
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
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02/03/25 09:26 AM
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Most of these guys have no clue about that "RINO." Everyone who comments that tariffs are good or that Daddy Trump is just inflicting a little short term pain should post their portfolio balances and losses Friday and today. I bet most of them have no real skin in the game.
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[Re: 160user]
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02/03/25 09:31 AM
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asking that is like asking why the USA sells corn to Mexico.
Cause they need to make them Tortilla's. That was the point of my post, I actually knew why. And you import tortillas. They should be mad about getting screwed on the corn by your oil logic.
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02/03/25 09:32 AM
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Most of these guys have no clue about that "RINO." Everyone who comments that tariffs are good or that Daddy Trump is just inflicting a little short term pain should post their portfolio balances and losses Friday and today. I bet most of them have no real skin in the game. If you lost money because of the tariffs it's ur own fault. We knew they were coming right?
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02/03/25 09:33 AM
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Most of these guys have no clue about that "RINO." Everyone who comments that tariffs are good or that Daddy Trump is just inflicting a little short term pain should post their portfolio balances and losses Friday and today. I bet most of them have no real skin in the game. I had larger losses in the dip last fall. And today im.still up 25%. You must not be much of an investor if short term market fluctuations effect your mind set. I absolutely love when the markets have corrections. That's when I buy more at the discount prices.
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02/03/25 09:39 AM
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Lol.....the sky is falling .....lol.....No everything will be just fine.
NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA
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02/03/25 09:40 AM
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1880-1920……. Do you guys still fight wars by lining up your soldiers in the open with a friggin marching band playing tunes in the back?….lol
How come only our oil gets 10%? You still want the 400 million barrels a day?
Sounds like most wanted this, well, you got it.
What really scares me is Turdo envoking the Emergency Act and prolonging our liberal government!!!
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Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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02/03/25 09:40 AM
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Voted Trump.....3 X........would vote 4th X.... if I could. .....but he's bit off more than he can chew with tariffs........today is start of dems winning 2026 midterms......new housing construction in U S A......cannot survive with out Canada's and Mexico's products.........Trump's narcissism just will not end.......hold on to your hat if you ....your kids.....or your grandkids......will be affording a new home in near future....... U claim to have voted for Trump and would again but claim he's a narcissistic and is going to ruin the economy for generations by doing what he campaigned he was going to do. Based off some of ur postes I'm starting to wonder if ur an anti/ leftist here to troll us
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02/03/25 09:41 AM
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Who else can the guy vote for? Harris? There was no options for you.
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Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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02/03/25 09:43 AM
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Voted Trump.....3 X........would vote 4th X.... if I could. .....but he's bit off more than he can chew with tariffs........today is start of dems winning 2026 midterms......new housing construction in U S A......cannot survive with out Canada's and Mexico's products.........Trump's narcissism just will not end.......hold on to your hat if you ....your kids.....or your grandkids......will be affording a new home in near future....... U claim to have voted for Trump and would again but claim he's a narcissistic and is going to ruin the economy for generations by doing what he campaigned he was going to do. Based off some of ur postes I'm starting to wonder if ur an anti/ leftist here to troll us Your not the only one on here that thinks he's an anti McCoy out
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Blaine County]
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02/03/25 09:44 AM
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Most of these guys have no clue about that "RINO." Everyone who comments that tariffs are good or that Daddy Trump is just inflicting a little short term pain should post their portfolio balances and losses Friday and today. I bet most of them have no real skin in the game. Why are you two constantly try to derail an otherwise good conversation with your political bullcrap?
Eh...wot?
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02/03/25 09:47 AM
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We have more oil in the US than Canada. Probably have more just in KS. Certainly in any one of TX ND or CA. If the Canadians are unhappy maybe the answer is to petition your government to exclude US sales? The oil market is global after all.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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02/03/25 09:47 AM
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Shakey, we know why the oil they don’t need only gets ten percent.
Thinking we’re screwing your on oil is like retail stores and packing plants thinking the rancher raising the beef is screwing them. Lol
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02/03/25 09:48 AM
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The way it works you just don't buy corn chips from mexico or whatever they make from them. Find an alternative or do without. If the tariffs effect you they shouldn't don't their whiskey or corn chip or what ever they have to sell if you don't want to buy at a higher price.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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[Re: danny clifton]
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02/03/25 09:55 AM
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We have more oil in the US than Canada. Probably have more just in KS. Certainly in any one of TX ND or CA. If the Canadians are unhappy maybe the answer is to petition your government to exclude US sales? The oil market is global after all. But isn’t your oil more like tar? It’ll screw up your refineries….lol. You guys gotta watch Landman and learn how the world of oil works!
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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02/03/25 10:08 AM
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Lugnut is correct ..most of an American house is American materials, even if you use Canadian Lumber, the tariff doesn't add up to that much...lumber is the cheap part of a house
2021 goals....make time to trap
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Lugnut is correct ..most of an American house is American materials, even if you use Canadian Lumber, the tariff doesn't add up to that much...lumber is the cheap part of a house I hope people can pay cash for the house.
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02/03/25 10:12 AM
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Big sell off on Wall Street today. Hopefully his plan is a good one.
Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
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02/03/25 10:13 AM
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When a news outlet continuously makes seemingly constant hate speech and tells outright lies about a candidate or sitting president while providing cover for his opposition, I tune out.
If you are into the sky is falling and Trump bites the heads off babies crap maybe you could DVR The View and watch it 2 or 3 times a day.
What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.
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02/03/25 10:16 AM
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danny clifton
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I'd rather legalize fentanyl and give it to the losers who want it for free. Problem solved permanently. Way better than tanking the economy.
And, this is not about fentanyl. Meth too. Five gallon bucketful. Would be cheaper. A REAL war on drugs will work. Need to go after American distributers. there has to be American cartels to facilitate the amount of drugs available. I suspect that just like in Mexico there are people powerful enough they are near untouchable.
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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[Re: danny clifton]
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02/03/25 10:21 AM
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We have more oil in the US than Canada. Probably have more just in KS. Certainly in any one of TX ND or CA. If the Canadians are unhappy maybe the answer is to petition your government to exclude US sales? The oil market is global after all. Danny, you're right about the market being global. However "but we probably have more in Kansas" shows your lack of knowledge. Saskatchewan itself has three times more than Kansas. Does it make a difference in the whole thing? No. But "probably" isn't the best way to take on persuading somebody.
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02/03/25 10:24 AM
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Unless something has changed, the original purpose of tariffs had nothing to do with trade or prices or any of that. It was to stop flow of illegal migrants and drugs from across both borders. Fentenayl made in Mexico killing 100,000 per year ring a bell? All either country had to do was stop the drugs and illegals.
In Trump speak, tariffs are an economic club used to beat countries into submission. All the news reports want to talk about is price of booze and avacados going into super bowl guacamole dip. They leave out the original intent.
What is missing is an objective measure these countries can meet to get tariffs lifted.
Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
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[Re: HayDay]
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02/03/25 10:29 AM
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Unless something has changed, the original purpose of tariffs had nothing to do with trade or prices or any of that. It was to stop flow of illegal migrants and drugs from across both borders. Fentenayl made in Mexico killing 100,000 per year ring a bell? All either country had to do was stop the drugs and illegals.
In Trump speak, tariffs are an economic club used to beat countries into submission. All the news reports want to talk about is price of booze and avacados going into super bowl guacamole dip. They leave out the original intent.
What is missing is an objective measure these countries can meet to get tariffs lifted.
I agree that the flow of migrants is an issue and needs to be remedied. But don't buy into the flow of fantanyl from north nonsense. Your border agency, and I say again, your agents that are responsible for stopping things entering, stop fentanyl coming into your country. Less than 1 % of that is from the north.
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02/03/25 10:31 AM
02/03/25 10:31 AM
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Armpit, ak
Dirt
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Appears the story has changed to how tariffs are going to make the U.S. prosper like they did in the 1890's1.
Who is John Galt?
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[Re: rvsask]
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02/03/25 10:34 AM
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Unless something has changed, the original purpose of tariffs had nothing to do with trade or prices or any of that. It was to stop flow of illegal migrants and drugs from across both borders. Fentenayl made in Mexico killing 100,000 per year ring a bell? All either country had to do was stop the drugs and illegals.
In Trump speak, tariffs are an economic club used to beat countries into submission. All the news reports want to talk about is price of booze and avacados going into super bowl guacamole dip. They leave out the original intent.
What is missing is an objective measure these countries can meet to get tariffs lifted.
I agree that the flow of migrants is an issue and needs to be remedied. But don't buy into the flow of fantanyl from north nonsense. Your border agency, and I say again, your agents that are responsible for stopping things entering, stop fentanyl coming into your country. Less than 1 % of that is from the north. It is 100% political propaganda.
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[Re: Leftlane]
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02/03/25 10:35 AM
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If you are into the sky is falling and Trump bites the heads off babies crap maybe you could DVR The View and watch it 2 or 3 times a day. Only 2 or 3 times a day? Where would BC get the rest of his talking points?
Eh...wot?
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[Re: danny clifton]
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02/03/25 10:39 AM
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Meth too. Five gallon bucketful. Would be cheaper. A REAL war on drugs will work. Need to go after American distributers. there has to be American cartels to facilitate the amount of drugs available. I suspect that just like in Mexico there are people powerful enough they are near untouchable. How much cocaine is in the White House, or Parliament? The hardcore users want their stuff cut with fentanyl. It’s the casual rich boy that’s scared crapless of waking up dead one morning. They gotta really trust their supplier ain’t going to cut their stuff. I wonder how Trumps phone call went? Apparently they’re going to talk again at 2PM central. As for everything being American in your household except for the lumber…… Look around right where you’re sitting, are you so naive or just the type that can’t pour water out of a boot without instructions on the heel?
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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02/03/25 10:39 AM
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Why are you two constantly try to derail an otherwise good conversation with your political bullcrap? Why do you respond to them? lol I guess it's like watching a train wreck, hard to not look and not respond in some way. 
Eh...wot?
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[Re: danny clifton]
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02/03/25 10:42 AM
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I'd rather legalize fentanyl and give it to the losers who want it for free. Problem solved permanently. Way better than tanking the economy.
And, this is not about fentanyl. Meth too. Five gallon bucketful. Would be cheaper. A REAL war on drugs will work. Need to go after American distributers. there has to be American cartels to facilitate the amount of drugs available. I suspect that just like in Mexico there are people powerful enough they are near untouchable. Legalize all of it and the drug problem would be solved. And, end welfare (including Medicaid and fake disability welfare) and people will get to work--or die. We won't need illegals to build houses, push lawn mowers, work in the oilfield, etc. Much simpler than tanking the U.S. economy with a political gimmick. But, admittedly, if Trump eliminated welfare he would lose a huge chunk of his base.
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[Re: Lugnut]
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02/03/25 10:48 AM
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Why are you two constantly try to derail an otherwise good conversation with your political bullcrap? Why do you respond to them? lol I guess it's like watching a train wreck, hard to not look and not respond in some way. You need to kick the habit. lol
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[Re: Blaine County]
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02/03/25 10:50 AM
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[quote=Blaine County]Legalize all of it and the drug problem would be solved./quote]
No, not really. The government sticks their hands in it, regulations etc….the price skyrockets and maintains the black market. Trudeau legalized dope, there’s still a huge black market for it.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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[Re: blackhammer]
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02/03/25 10:51 AM
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Big sell off on Wall Street today. Hopefully his plan is a good one. a correction is long over due. Stocke are extremely over valued and have been. I still dollar cost average about 60% of my investment amounts but keep some in cash to catch market opportunities. So far it's not enough to get me to buy yet.
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[Re: Shakeyjake]
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02/03/25 10:52 AM
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are you so naive or just the type that can’t pour water out of a boot without instructions on the heel? Why is there water in my boot? I guess it is going to be one of those days.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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[Re: Shakeyjake]
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02/03/25 10:53 AM
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[quote=Blaine County]Legalize all of it and the drug problem would be solved./quote]
No, not really. The government sticks their hands in it, regulations etc….the price skyrockets and maintains the black market. Trudeau legalized dope, there’s still a huge black market for it. Then give them what they want for free. Still better than tanking our economy and yours. It would be a short term expense.
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[Re: Dirt]
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02/03/25 11:11 AM
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If I remember right.......I voted Regan....... 2 X back then........he gave us....................... Arms for hostages................ and Amnesty for ..........2.5 + - million... .... .illegals I'd vote for him again though..... .was overall great president
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02/03/25 11:13 AM
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If I remember right.......I voted Regan....... 2 X back then........he gave us....................... Arms for hostages................ and Amnesty for ..........2.5 + - million... .... .illegals I'd vote for him again though..... .was overall great president You forgot the 1986 hues amendment
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[Re: spjones]
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02/03/25 11:26 AM
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Trumpster does have a legitimate beef with Canada as far as fentanyl goes,,,
We have a massive fentanyl problem and it’s very naive to assume they are catching everything
We have a massive Chinese influence/money laundering problem tied to Chinese
It needs to be cleaned up ASAP
The Indians(dot) have taken over the trucking industry,,,,
And we’ve had no shortage of card carrying terrorist caught at the border,,
All of this could be resolved very fast Not sure where the legitimacy is. Is there some fentanyl coming from Canada? Yes there is some. Last year 19kg of it was seized at the Canadian border. For the entire year. The Mexican border? 9600kg
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[Re: Blaine County]
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02/03/25 11:27 AM
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Why is there water in my boot? I guess it is going to be one of those days.
Days!?! It’s been that kinda winter for me! Then give them what they want for free. Still better than tanking our economy and yours. It would be a short term expense. But you know how all governments work, they want a piece of the pie and the power to regulate it.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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[Re: k9-hunter]
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02/03/25 11:32 AM
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K- 9 HUNTER. X 2...........you .....me......and only few others on this forum are
rational....logical......and can use common sense.....thanks for posting....
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[Re: J Staton]
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02/03/25 11:49 AM
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I wouldn't worry to much about it. The same people who claimed 46 was of sound mind are the same people who claim catastrophic economic results will occur with 47's tariffs. X2
Never Confuse Stupid With Crazy
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[Re: NWOTrapper]
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02/03/25 11:53 AM
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You are making assumptions without any facts. US border patrol has the ability to check anyone and everyone crossing into the United States. The fact is that compared to what they are seizing at the southern border what finds its way across from Canada is minuscule. Not absent but minuscule. It all needs to stop coming across the border.
NRA,NTA,MTA,FTA
#1 goal=Trap a wolverine
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02/03/25 11:54 AM
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Yes sir
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K- 9 HUNTER. X 2...........you .....me......and only few others on this forum are
rational....logical......and can use common sense.....thanks for posting....
Definitely trolling
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02/03/25 12:11 PM
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It appears Mexico is starting to cave. Mexico said they are going to send 10,000 troops to the border and Trump agreed to a one month reprieve for them on the Tariffs. Canada is now saying they want talks.
An old man roaming the Rockies
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[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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02/03/25 12:19 PM
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Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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It appears Mexico is starting to cave. Mexico said they are going to send 10,000 troops to the border and Trump agreed to a one month reprieve for them on the Tariffs. Canada is now saying they want talks. It can't be working because it's a terrible idea
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02/03/25 12:22 PM
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It appears Mexico is starting to cave. Mexico said they are going to send 10,000 troops to the border and Trump agreed to a one month reprieve for them on the Tariffs. Canada is now saying they want talks. It can't be working because it's a terrible idea Yeah, the Canadians told us so. lol
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[Re: Bruce T]
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02/03/25 12:42 PM
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You are making assumptions without any facts. US border patrol has the ability to check anyone and everyone crossing into the United States. The fact is that compared to what they are seizing at the southern border what finds its way across from Canada is minuscule. Not absent but minuscule. It all needs to stop coming across the border. It won’t ever stop entirely due to the massive demand by Americans for these drugs.
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[Re: spjones]
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02/03/25 12:45 PM
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No, I’m repeating what I’m being told from CBSA employees Let’s assume for a second that what you are saying is true and the 19kg are a fraction of what’s crossing. That would also mean that the 9600kg from Mexico is also a fraction of what’s coming in. So again. The big problem is still to the south and I’ll take published stats over second or third hand opinions from someone who may or may not work for CBSA
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02/03/25 12:54 PM
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The drugs coming across the border won't stop completely. However, if it's cut in one-half it will be a win.
An old man roaming the Rockies
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[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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02/03/25 01:04 PM
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The drugs coming across the border won't stop completely. However, if it's cut in one-half it will be a win. That will cut into the CIA off the books operating capital a lot I would guess.
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02/03/25 01:28 PM
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Missouri
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Missouri
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If memory serves, drug problem from Canada is in form of coke and heroin, which is smuggled into Canada in shipping containers, almost none of which are inspected. Once in, getting that over the border is not a huge problem.
If all that is true, then easy fix might be to crack open more containers with a drug sniffing dog on hand. That would be cheaper than paying a big tariff.
Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
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[Re: HayDay]
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02/03/25 01:33 PM
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If memory serves, drug problem from Canada is in form of coke and heroin, which is smuggled into Canada in shipping containers, almost none of which are inspected. Once in, getting that over the border is not a huge problem.
If all that is true, then easy fix might be to crack open more containers with a drug sniffing dog on hand. That would be cheaper than paying a big tariff. The last time I checked it’s the job of US border patrol to inspect things entering the US. Maybe the federal government needs to increase staffing levels on the northern border. Might be a hard sell considering less than 1% of the fentanyl coming into the US comes through Canada
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02/03/25 01:39 PM
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Missouri
HayDay
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Missouri
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If the coke/heroin story is true, the choke point in Canada is when they crack open the cans. Failure to do that, and it gets dispersed like smoke from a forest fire. US can't stop it then.
Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.
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[Re: Rat Masterson]
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02/03/25 02:30 PM
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Looks like the tanking economy is over for now, have to say that was one tough 3 hours. WHEW! Dang we made it though!! LMAO!
"A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!"
Youtube Channel- SeldomFales
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[Re: NWOTrapper]
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02/03/25 04:19 PM
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Not sure where the legitimacy is. Is there some fentanyl coming from Canada? Yes there is some. Last year 19kg of it was seized at the Canadian border. For the entire year. The Mexican border? 9600kg Fentanyl is a very strong drug. 1 to 2 micro grams of fentanyl is a normal dose taken, with 20 micro grams being the maximum dose. There are 1 million micro grams per gram. 19 kg of fentanyl is 950,000,000.00 individual maximum doses. Keith
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02/03/25 05:05 PM
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Looks like Corona Beer and Avocados will have no shortage ...for the rigged Superbowl ..
Per ...Chuck Schumer...lol
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 01:30 PM
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6 months in, anyone have a different take on them?
Might be too early yet to tell completely, but so far so good imo.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 03:13 PM
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All the gloom and doom predictions by the left-leaning "economist' about hyper-inflation and shortages never came to pass. Other than some companies price-gouging under the guise of "increased tarriffs" I haven't seen any significant increases or shortages of goods.
It's just the opposite on some items. Lumber and other building materials, which I buy weekly, have almost returned to pre-covid prices.
And how about those gas prices?
Winning
Eh...wot?
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[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 03:28 PM
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Mostly propaganda going around now to keep the sheep motivated to do what they do like spreading the manure. You can’t believe anything the MSM says today about anything on a good day they have lost their minds.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 05:40 PM
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Armpit, ak
Dirt
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Inflation increased in June. We will have new numbers for July on August 12 .
Who is John Galt?
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[Re: Dirt]
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08/05/25 06:55 PM
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Inflation increased in June. We will have new numbers for July on August 12 . Inflation has been steadily decreasing since the June 2022 rate of 9.07. June numbers are up a whopping 0.36% since April 2025 which was the lowest inflation rate we've seen in four years. Must be those dang tariffs eh Dirt?
Eh...wot?
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[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 07:26 PM
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.36 percent month over month adds up pretty good if the trend continues
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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[Re: Steven 49er]
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08/05/25 08:15 PM
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We do expect to show up — tariff inflation to show up more," Powell told the House Financial Services Committee. "But I want to be honest, we really don't know how much of that's going to be passed through to the consumers. We just don't know. And we won't know until we see it. It could be lower than we expect; it could be higher. We have to wait and see, which is kind of what we're doing."
Who is John Galt?
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[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 08:22 PM
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Powell could just look at the data from Trump's tariffs during his first term and those continuing tariffs during Biden's term and see that very little to none of those costs were passed to consumers.
But then he couldn't make wishy-washy statements like the one above.
Eh...wot?
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[Re: Steven 49er]
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08/05/25 08:23 PM
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.36 percent month over month adds up pretty good if the trend continues That's a very big "if."
Eh...wot?
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[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 09:04 PM
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Yup
Could go higher, could go lower, could stay the same
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 09:07 PM
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I'm on board with whatever trump wants to do .......lots of tears already.....more to come
Just imagine if that dumb beezoe was our prez......
The Vink for chief moderator....night shift ...11pm- 5am best coast time zone.....Free Marty
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Steven 49er]
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08/05/25 09:10 PM
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Yup
Could go higher, could go lower, could stay the same
You sound just like Powell. "We'll just have to wait and see."
Eh...wot?
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Anonymous]
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08/05/25 09:11 PM
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Donald Trump nominates Jerome Powell as Fed chair
2 November 2017
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Dirt]
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08/05/25 09:14 PM
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Donald Trump nominates Jerome Powell as Fed chair
2 November 2017 Is that a good or bad thing ?
Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Lugnut]
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08/05/25 09:27 PM
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Yup
Could go higher, could go lower, could stay the same
You sound just like Powell. "We'll just have to wait and see." I think that Powell is doing ok job outside of the Feds reaction to COVID
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Aaron Proffitt]
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08/05/25 09:31 PM
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Donald Trump nominates Jerome Powell as Fed chair
2 November 2017 Is that a good or bad thing ? Good
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Anonymous]
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Yesterday at 05:58 AM
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Look'n like y'all dug your heels in and still think its going to crash the economy.
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: bblwi]
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Yesterday at 06:04 AM
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With the yoyo discussions and dealing with tariffs, the economy may well go into a more stagnation type economy like Japan experienced for 20 years or so. Stagnation is not as severe as recession but typically last longer and are not good for workers trying to find their first jobs. Automation is cheaper then hiring labor, especially in softer economies or when there is more fluxuation in economic growth or lack there of. A lot depends upon who eats the costs of the tariffs. If producers absorb large portions then they will work to find different markets then if the end buyer or consumers pay for most of the tariff costs. To me right now there does not seem to be any attempt to work on long term solutions so hard to know at this time.
Bryce Really good points. Some of the things I've been reading is that although unemployment is low, few professional jobs are hiring. Im about to change jobs but im just not seeing growth positions.
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: hippie]
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Yesterday at 06:16 AM
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My post at the start of this thread..... You will have some pain with life saving surgery, I don't think this will be any different so buckle up.
It may seem worse than it is because prices are already at an all time high because of foolish spending that got us nowhere. Time to right the ship! So far I've been wrong, the economy hasn't crashed, the "pain" I referred to. The reason I was for this appears to be happening, that is manufacturing coming back to the U.S., countries opening up their markets to U.S. goods and a more even playing field. The extra revenue generated is icing on the top of it all. (over double previous years)
There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Anonymous]
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I think it's too early to tell if they are good or bad. Personally I've always been in favor of tarrifs to level the playing field so to speak.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Anonymous]
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Yesterday at 08:17 AM
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On a related front; The US trade deficit has shrunk to a two-year low thanks mostly to Trump's tariffs. The US deficit with China has shrunk to a twenty one-year low!
As a direct result of the shrinking trade deficit and less imports, the US GDP has made big rebound during the second quarter of this year.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Anonymous]
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Yesterday at 08:18 AM
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Our trade deficit with China is down about 70% since the beginning of the year.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Steven 49er]
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Yesterday at 10:44 AM
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I think it's too early to tell if they are good or bad. Personally I've always been in favor of tarrifs to level the playing field so to speak.
"The Austrian School of economics generally views tariffs as detrimental to economic efficiency and individual liberty, advocating for minimal government intervention and free trade. Austrian economists argue that tariffs distort market price signals, which are essential for the efficient allocation of resources, leading to misallocation and reduced overall prosperity. Prices in a free market reflect consumer preferences, scarcity, and production costs, but tariffs artificially inflate the prices of imported goods, causing consumers and producers to make less efficient economic decisions." Apparently a level playing field is where other countries charge no tariffs on U.S. products and we tax theirs 10 to 40%? Seems these are the deals?
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Re: Economy will tank with tariffs ?
[Re: Dirt]
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I think it's too early to tell if they are good or bad. Personally I've always been in favor of tarrifs to level the playing field so to speak.
"The Austrian School of economics generally views tariffs as detrimental to economic efficiency and individual liberty, advocating for minimal government intervention and free trade. Austrian economists argue that tariffs distort market price signals, which are essential for the efficient allocation of resources, leading to misallocation and reduced overall prosperity. Prices in a free market reflect consumer preferences, scarcity, and production costs, but tariffs artificially inflate the prices of imported goods, causing consumers and producers to make less efficient economic decisions." Apparently a level playing field is where other countries charge no tariffs on U.S. products and we tax theirs 10 to 40%? Seems these are the deals? Whelp, until the rest of the economy follows the Austrian Schools rules, I'll overlook this one.
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