Sure didn't take long after the election....

https://www.usacarry.com/virginia-l...t-firearms-and-magazines-over-15-rounds/

Let the buying surge begin!

Same bill coming soon to MN.

Thats some scary wording...

"C. For purposes of this section, "assault firearm" means any semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock."

If you have one of these then you have a "assault firearm".
1) Semi auto center fire rifle or pistol
AND
2) more than a 20 round mag
OR
3) threaded barrel from the supplier
OR
4) a folding stock

“ It includes exceptions for government agencies, law enforcement.”

That right there is an unconstitutional load of bullcrap.

They're in for a long 4 years I'm afraid.

Hopefully the courts will step in, but they shouldn't have to. There needs to be consiquences for passing such a bill.

A legislator I know said many of the democrats want to ban all semi auto rifles regardless of magazine size in MN.

The way it is written, it is more of a magazine ban than a firearm ban. For example, if you own an AR but only POSSESS 5 and 10 round mags, it doesn't meet the requirement. Had they written it as any weapon CAPABLE of accepting a 20 round mag, it would have been much worse.

What does a gun store do with its assault rifle inventory. I suppose that can sell to a dealer in another state.

I believe I read that it doesn't go into effect until July, 2026 so they would have until then to sell them.

Is that the Trans firearm of choice?

supreme court has ruled similar laws unconstitutional, will be thrown out.

That could be, but my legislator said there are quite a few democrats that would like to see all semi-auto rifles banned.

All FULLY semi-auto rifles banned

1. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol which expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock with a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 15 rounds;

2. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, not including an attached tubular device designed to accept and capable of operating only with .22 caliber rimfire ammunition, and that has one or more of the following characteristics: (i) a folding, telescoping, or collapsible stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the rifle; (iii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iv) a grenade launcher; or (v) a threaded barrel capable of accepting (a) a muzzle brake, (b) a muzzle compensator, (c) a sound suppressor, or (d) a flash suppressor;

3. A semi-automatic center-fire pistol that has two or more of the following characteristics: (i) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (ii) the capacity to accept a magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the pistol with the non-trigger hand without being burned; (iv) a threaded barrel capable of accepting (a) a sound suppressor, (b) a flash suppressor, (c) a barrel extender, or (d) a forward handgrip; or (v) a buffer tube, arm brace, or other part that protrudes horizontally behind the pistol grip and is designed or redesigned to allow or facilitate the firing of a firearm from the shoulder;

4. A semi-automatic shotgun that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material that has one of the following characteristics: (i) a folding, telescoping, or collapsible stock; (ii) a thumbhole stock or pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the shotgun; (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; (iv) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 15 rounds; or (v) any characteristic of like kind as enumerated in clauses (i) through (iv);

Here's the full text....
https://legiscan.com/VA/text/SB749/2026

Welcome to CT, except we only get 10 rounds.

Welcome to VA. We can all thank the white liberal women ages 18 - 50. Purple / Pink highlights are optional.

Any truth to the rumor the legislator responsible for this is an immigrant from Bangladash?

Senator Saddam Salim.



https://legiscan.com/VA/sponsors/SB749/2026

Only Dems voted for it in the Senate

DC just overturned the 10 round magazine limit as unconstitutional

Agreed. Every legislator should be required to sign their name to it and a pledge to personally defend it in the courts.

We moan and groan about govt waste but how much do they spend on court costs and lawyers fees to defend the indefensible?

Throw in loser pays as well to make it possible for the citizenry to be able to take it to court.

Unless the muzzle is threaded.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple. There are gun owners and "sportsmen" that support this crap too.

I wonder if a class action lawsuit can be brought against those who voted for it? Would the same law apply that AR uses in order to get federal money for filing lawsuits against game management programs?

let's not forget to blame all the middle-of-the-road democrats AND "republicans" who said to themselves "I don't have to vote, it'll never happen HERE"

Does Virginia have voter i.d

I believe any sheriff, most powerful office of any county, would be breaking their oath of office to enforce any such unconstitutional law.

I am just glad I live in a Conservative State.

Yes they do

I believe a lot of the time they don't understand what semi auto means and picture a full auto m16 when they use that term.

And payment must come from their personal accounts.

They don't care. They don't want you to have guns, period.

A democrat sportsman is as dumb a description as an anti 2A republican.

Women should never be in a leadership decision making role.

Their support of their husbands is crucial, but a woman in power is never a good thing in a world ruled by men.

Good Lord

Isaiah 3

wow. you should maybe go meet some woman if you are going to be so opinionated about them.

Them wimmins belong in the kitchen!

Maybe,but grandma would have shut you up,cuffed you,and made you sit in the front seat of the school bus for saying that…lol

Did I say that?

Let's see if you can answer these questions.

Have we as men FAILED as leaders? Are we being the leaders GOD designed us to be? Did GOD design women to be leaders?

Silence.

Nice Try.

Not much silence to a tent pen being driven into the temples, lol.

Ok. You put up some examples.

Same questions apply to you that I asked of trapdog.

I look forward to your answers. There are 3 questions. Please give three answers.

Titus 2

WOW! Just wow. I have no words...................geez.

Ok. You gave a reaction. Now show me where this is wrong.

1) People fail all the time, thats a dumb question.
2) Religious answer: see #1. Non Religious answer: Don't care.
3) Must have, I just posted three of them that became pretty big leaders... all through gods will.

In case you didn't see it:

I have worked with many women that were in leadership roles and agency heads that did an excellent job. Amazing actually. One was the first female Hotshot Superintendent and would run circles around 3 good men. It annoys me that I have to share oxygen with people like you.

When men are men it allows women to be women. Both roles are equally important. They are actually mutually commensal. I need my wife to be a woman. She needs me to be a man. When either sex denies their role and places that role on the opposite sex, the man/woman dynamic fails.

Sadly, most people see subjects like this as controversial and offensive. It is a sign of the times. But when a woman runs the house, other men and women make fun of that man and say things such as:

1. He is hen pecked (or worse).
2. I see who wears the pants in that family then laugh at the man.
3. somebody needs to tell him to man up.

And others. NO ONE says wow what a great family dynamic that family shows.

Men are supposed to provide the protective bubble around women so they can be the woman GOD designed them to be. It is our job as men. You know, TO LEAD!!

Not dictate, not tyrant, but a viciously protective loving man that by his actions allows her to comfortably be a woman.

JEEZ some of you are so programmed by the media and society.

Then stop breathing.

Cut bowhunter some slack. She can't help it. Hysterical women hate other hysterical women.

The only thing controversial about this is that you think all men should be one way and all woman should be another way and they they should all live together a certain way or something is wrong. You can't help it though you haven't really thought about it enough yet. I hope some day you meet a chic working a job that really has her crap together that a company wouldn't know what to do without. That lady has usually worked her way up and is doing three jobs as one. Try going to a plumbing counter or electrical counter at a supply house and meet one of those parts chics that know more about things than you do. The fact that you haven't met a woman to change your mindset tells me that you don't get out much. Or that you have met one and didn't realize it in order to be able to understand it. That's too bad. Good luck to you.

Serious question: Your "wife" has a stamp that says "do not inflate to over 20 PSI" right near the valve stem doesn't she?

Eve was tricked by Satan, Adam was tricked by a woman, very manly and a great leader !

Well, you are definitely proving why some men DEFINITELY shouldn't be in leadership.

You are referring to before the fall, right?

Not only eliminated braced pistol but all AR pistols with the mag not in the pistol grip, anything extending past the grip, and barrel shroud language.

Needs to be penalties when unconstitutional laws are passed. And not slaps on the wrists.

I don't care what you think God tells you, reality tells me that to tell women they shouldn't be prepared to take care of and fend for themselves is stupid.
My wife and I have taught our daughters to be educated and career oriented. If they choose to get married and start a family (one has, and I hope they all do), and put their career on hold for a family, so be it. If they can blend career and family and choose to do so great. But they should not have to depend on anyone else for their well being.
My current supervisor is a woman. She is in that role because she is better at it than anyone else. She deserves the job, and I benefit because she is there. It would be just plain stupid to be mad about because she is a woman.

Not all male leaders are great.

Not all female leaders are great.

You meeting two female leaders that weren't great does not mean that all female leaders are not great. It only means you have only met two female leaders. I'm done.

We have more in common than you think td, but you have your underwear in a bunch because you don't understand what I am saying. You instantly feigned offense instead of seeing that I was talking about the 100% value of both men and women when they are men and women.

You put words in my mouth thinking I meant women should be barefoot and pregnant and either washing clothes or dishes or cooking. That was very one sided of you and showed your inability to have a coherent conversation. Your understanding of what I am saying is absent as evident by this response you posted.

My daughter is IMMENSELY successful in her job. I mean off the chart. But we raised her to know she is a woman and how valuable a womans role is. She really wants to be a stay at home mom with a man who provides for their family. She loves being a woman and smiles humbly when I tell her how proud I am of her. She is 100% self sufficient but she would really prefer to have a man who can provide the protective bubble for her to be a woman and mother. I too wanted her to be able to take care of herself. But that has nothing to do with a leadership role. It only has to do with her ability to provide for herself sans a man.

Next time we have a conversation, try to remember this. And when someone asks you to answer a question that points the finger back at you, don't be afraid to answer. I will definitely say I have not been the leader I should have been but I ask GOD for help every day.

My other question for you is, did your current supervisor have any competition when she applied for the supervision slot? Hopefully you can answer this one question since you couldn't answer my other three.

With you in this conversation, I am in total agreement. I am done with you also.

Back to the subject at hand.

I'll take the 2A Pepsi Challenge with anyone on this site or anywhere and completely get your frustration, but this would be unconstitutional.

And how does that make it better ?

I thought the basis to your argument was men were created (also before the fall) as leaders ?

I got a 2A Pepsi Challenge for you that may tie all this together actually...

How do you explain to a woman that is complaining about needing more gun laws (that clearly has no gun knowledge determined by the things that she is saying) that us having a gun is a right the same as a woman has the right to vote. Both are amendments. 2A & 19A. It proves a point to hit home a little bit... losing an amended right I think.... especially when people think they have a right to drive... but what do we say when she is sharp and then asks well I have to register to vote you should have to register to own a gun... Seems like one to get caught up in.

When 90% of several counties vote dem, it ain't all wimmin, sorry.

It's democrats, period.

Tell her to shut up?

You know you are kind of proving my point about male leadership in this day, right?

But how was Eve in a leadership position? She was first tricked by satan then she herself convinced Adam to sin. Think of where we would be today if Adam would have said no to Eve. Think of where we would be if Adam would have said no and been a leader.

By your thought, look at where we are now due to the leadership of Eve.

My point is we as men should be the ones asking these questions so our women can be the women they were designed to be. I loved it when my wife was home, even though we were poor as church mice. She had lost her job, and has a better one since. But it was SO NICE to know my wife was at home taking care of our kids.

For goodness sake, at least try to understand my point of view. It is not sexist. It is natural. If you don't like it, fine. I don't like yours but, I do see, from a worldly point, where you are coming from.

My wife's opinion is the number one opinion I ask for when I am making a decision anywhere. Work, home, family, everything. Just keep putting words in my mouth and paying no attention to what I am saying. It proves how objective you are.

Good grief.

She should know better than to even open her mouth, right?

If you are in favor of women leadership, good for you.

I am not.

Back to the subject at hand from the OP.

Thank you counselor. You may be seated now.

It is sexist. You think all woman were designed to be one way and do one thing that you approve of and you want to cite religion. That is the flaw in your logic that makes it sexist.

Not all woman are the same... Im guessing your wife couldn't do this... but maybe this isn't an example of a good woman leader though.

Judith Love Cohen, mother of actor Jack Black, was a pioneering NASA aerospace engineer who helped design the critical Abort-Guidance System for the Apollo missions. On August 28, 1969, while in labor, she brought a computer printout to the hospital, solved a crucial, complex math problem, and called her boss to report success before giving birth to Jack.

Key Facts about Judith Love Cohen
Apollo 13 Hero: Her work on the Abort-Guidance System allowed the crew to navigate home safely after the mission’s catastrophic accident.
True Dedication: She went to the hospital while in labor with Jack Black, bringing along a computer problem she was working on, and solving it to meet a deadline.
Engineering Career: Cohen worked at TRW and on projects like the Hubble Space Telescope, overcoming immense sexism to be one of the few women in the field.
Background: Born in Brooklyn, she was a math enthusiast from a young age and later wrote books encouraging young girls to enter STEM careers.

Judith Love Cohen was not only a brilliant mathematician and engineer but also a tireless advocate for women in science, passing away in 2016 at age 82.

Ob, yes she was a fine worker. Not saying anyone shouldn't work.

Judith Love Cohen, mother of actor Jack Black, was a pioneering NASA aerospace engineer who helped design the critical Abort-Guidance System for the Apollo missions. On August 28, 1969, while in labor, she brought a computer printout to the hospital, solved a crucial, complex math problem, and called her boss to report success before giving birth to Jack.


She was a genius in this aspect obviously. But she wasn't a leader. You really don't understand what I am saying so maybe it is best you don't talk to me about this subject or assign your understanding to my understanding and opinion based on life experiences.

You really don't understand what I am saying. Perhaps it is because you aren't religious. That is a big gap to try to broach with a subject like this.

Take care ob.

I'm quoting you directly. Scroll up.

I NEVER said women should do what I approve of. Again, stop putting words in my mouth that I did not say.

I NEVER said women shouldn't be successful in what they choose to do. A lot of them are. Look at Judith Cohen.

I DID say I don't think women belong in leadership. Try to distinguish between success and leadership. They are not the same or linked.

and thats sexist. thats not me misunderstanding what you are saying.

And be very careful about how you talk about my wife, friend.

You brought her up not me. I was making a point that with all the cleaning and cooking (or whatever shes designed for) she's doing is what you have her playing her role for and that maybe she hasn't risen to the level of NASA Engineer yet is all I was saying.

pm sent

I brought her up in this conversation in that she is the most important person to me next to GOD. She is very intelligent (smarter than me) and very successful where she works.

We talked when we first married about the path we should take in our life together. We agreed once we crossed the fork it was a done deal. We both wish we would have made a different decision but that is water under the bridge now.

And she is not, nor wants to be, a supervisor.

I have a woman I don't deserve and I tell everyone that when I talk about her.

Back to the VA gun ban.

Depending how its worded. Purposely doing things against the law. The constitution is supreme law of the land should have consequences. Removal from office at a minimum. When found to do so. Its no different the subversion or treason. In my opinion.



I found asking her / pointing out how those laws actually make women old and weak victims.

Few can argue a weak man can easily over power most women. But having a gun levels the playing field in the weaker persons favor.

Here is an example of what I pointed out with a guy that was in favor of waiting periods. His reasoning was it gives a guy time to cool off if going through a divorce or something.

So I asked him who was more likely to need a gun man or woman.

Who was already likely to allready own a gun or have access to them men or women.

Then I flipped it. A woman would also have those waiting periods, is less likely to own or be able to come up with a gun when she is in danger from a man stalking her or domestic dispute wife beater type. So while she is fearfully waiting for her waiting period she is in more danger. That man won't need a gun to kick in her door and beat her to death and there is nothing she could do to stop him in time. But he is also likely to all ready have a gun or know where to get one if he wanted one to use. The funeral can be planed before the waiting period is over..

These laws cut both way.

Flip the script to a position where they can see and feel like they are in the place of helpless victim. Women are generally running on an emotional bases cpu. Feelings rule not reasion and logic. Got the get their feelings involved.

It still won't work on those of the left even when they agree with you point by point when you circle back to the full picture they reboot and go back tontheire original stance even if you broke it down point by point and theyn100% already with each one. In the case above it was a guy going through divorce not a woman.

He was acting in the same manner on emotion.

Good argument pf.

I thought the SCOTUS already said that we could own them. There are millions of these firearms out there. Let's see who gonna turn them in!

LOL

Following this thread is like catching barn swallows with chopsticks.

Ya can't.

Easy. VA passed an unconstitutional gun law. I haven't read it. Appears to be really bad based on what I read here.

Then bowhunter got all hysterical about women and how they shouldn't be in charge of anything. He derailed the thread and has some serious issues with females. He also claims to have a wife. Need to see some proof before I believe it.

LOL!!!!

And I sincerely and honestly apologize to the OP as I caused the reaction that derailed the thread. I have tried and will continue to ry to get it back on track.

Thats what I was thinking also.

Any thread Angela. "What ever it may be"

Did you find a cat to chase, Chester?

LOL!!!!

Hysterical? Typical liberal lawyer tactic.

The next word he would use will be "Preposterous".

Seriously, they have tactics that are very predictable and repetitive.

VA gun laws are getting ready to be in a big challenge.

Hope you guys have the money to go buy the guns you have wanted.

Y'all should be more worried about the dems that passed this bill instead of going off target.

If we took a poll by PMs I could probably get up to 5. Maybe 6.

Are we counting deceased voters?

And illegal immigrants.

Counting dead voters and illegals may make the numbers climb to "several".

LOL

Or seven

Now that is just a blatant exaggeration Sir!

All of those Democrat Legislators, Delegates and Senators, will be up for re-election next year. Many of them will be voted out of office over this.
it is clearly a bridge too far for voters in many districts who will vote accordingly and run them out of office. Hopefully a Republican majority will result and the madness of this Governor will be stymied.

52 caril I hope your right. But considering they got in office in the first place shows how dumb or much the voters in the state care. Could be they know the win is in and voting day is just a show for the masses to give them the illusion thay have a say in the system and stay compliant.

Im sad to see anything like this get out of committee.

Why did it pass in the first place?
Because 99% of the people today don't pay attention to what's going on, outside of their little care free world!

Not only out of Committee, all it needs is the head squirrel to sign it if she hasn't already.

Protest Against gun ban that they exempted themselves (the general assembly) from, outside capital building...handing out free mags,

https://www.rawstory.com/guns-va-ban-protest-free/

My hope is they realize, just before the slack is taken out of the hemp, it was not taking the gun away but the Right, that placed them on that end.

We need to carry more now than ever. JMO