$500 per dozen!

NOPE!!!!!

I assume this is the new tariff price.

Wowzer

I Own enough

At that price trap 25-30 Eastern beaver. Break even, then sell the castor for gas money.

Dealers won't sell many at that price. Might have to look into duke 330 mag. Or just wait.
That price is crazy stupid.

Sarge

might be time to sell used ones

Buy more the tarrifs you pay will go to fund the war.

I paid $180 for the first dozen Belisle 330's that I bought. That was in 2001 or 2002.

Check the price on all brands of 330s-all trap prices have gone up

They were $29 each used at NTA last month

That a boy.You Pakistadians just keep flapping yer lips and riding Americas coat tails,,,like always.

Even Bridgers are $329/dozen. Wow!

Keep drinking the kool aid einstein.

Those just became dust collectors at every trapping supply business. They can put put 'em on the bottom of the stack or the back of the shelves because they will not have to move those anytime soon.

I have enough to last me as long I will trap.

Tariffs have consequences.

Yep....slows or completely stops the purchase of items, especially those we can "get along without."

I heard about the increases coming a few months ago and stocked up on what I could

I joke about how a guy should drive up to Winnipeg and smuggle a trunkful home lol.

How much was a dozen a couple weeks ago?

I think it's been tough to find any for the past month.

390 was or so was the going rate last year.

Could have bought them for $300/dozen or $180/six a couple years ago.

There is a better way to reduce the demand for a superior product than by manipulating people with govt imposed tarriffs-make a better product if you are able.

Bill Duke just took a good product and copied it...after the patent ran out.

Made that product overseas and shipped it back here to sell for a lower price.

Duke 330s (the Belisle design) is selling for what Belisles were about 18 to 24 months ago. That price difference has got my attention now.

You can keep your Chinese made junk,lol.
Copycats not able to innovate.

Belisle 120's are also high. but I've become a trap snob and will be buying more.

At those prices, I just might look a little harder at RBG's.

Ya'll can keep those $500 per dozen 330s.

I'm thinking those clip-on spring safeties are now gold plated. SMH!

You will do fine with your chinese crappy traps for your crappy southern fur,lol.
No more belisles LDLs or sauvageaus for you unless you pay the Don his take.

Get what you pay for <- Tman 2003

Wait, that's somehow different now

I was waiting for all the outrage once the tariff increases hit home from all the people that were so in favor of the tariffs, lol.

some folks are more than happy to have others fight their battles.

Other MEN stand up and take the fight to those who need it.

Thats your stupid war not ours.
It is actually the Israelis war but you are their puppet.
You should happily fork over some more for the golden dancehall,too lol.

You know who that leaves out.
.the Negative Nancy who can't open his mouth without bashing the USA, his protector

The phrase is "Copycats imitate not innovate." G.

No outrage from me.....more like sticker shock.

I don't get mad....I just won't buy any at that price. Was gonna add 6 more to my inventory, but it is not 100% neccessary.

Thank goodness for Duke Traps!

The jaws on the 330 Belisles bend and have to straightened occasionally.....so the quality is very close to being the same. Spring strength is incredible on the Dukes and now they have those clip safeties....

What's not to love?

Not anti Duke just helping the Canadian with his saying. Duke, Victor, Belisle, can all make a beaver dead. Personally I would much rather snare my beaver. G.

If your gonna be an imbecile,,^^^ ,you might as well talk like an imbecile.We are all Free Citizens here,,while you are Subjects of the Queen and have to hide your BB guns.Dont worry,,you Pakistadians wont have to do any scary fighting,,we will handle all that for you,,,like always.

Im still in favor of the tariffs.Problem is,,most cant see past their nose.

Wait a minute…….is this at all the dealers? Did they all run out of old stock at the same time or are they jacking the price on their old stuff. Dick move if they are. Sell the old stuff at the same price or find a different dealer……

Our leader isn’t doing much about any tariffs and nobody really cares anymore up here, old boring news.
If you ask China nicely, they got the power to tell Iran to open the Straight………
IBTL
Who woulda thought a trap price thread would get zapped……lol

upstateNY is stuck in traffic and taking it out on Boco

Swamp, it’s funny how you’re whining about trap prices but have no problem dishing out money in order to shoot an over populated vermin deer in Florida. What a hunting experience you get!

Man you’re a cry baby eh!

LOL,,Boco is stuck in Pakistanada and taking it out on the U.S.A.Dont you have to go comb your hair or take a selfie or something?

We still have springs breaking on them, buy you some duke magnums.

It’s summer time! I’m just gone fishin’!

Huh. And here I thought it was a freak thing when a spring on a Belisle 220 broke this past season.

Few things Selfie Man.....1) I'm not whining. I have 18 Belisle 330s and was about to add only 6 more...but 18 is about all I really need to handle the current beaver work I get, 2) I don't hunt deer in Florida, 3) please educate yourself on the difference between a beaver and a deer...two totally different pursuits and for different reasons.

Stay in your lane.

Belisle quality?

Smart, is what that is.

Shakey, I looked at 5 major sites and they all raised their rates about the same. Monkey see monkey do. And some price gouging going on for sure.
Best bet is to go see the little guy that hasn't replenished stock yet and see if he still has the old prices. I did find one that hadn't raised prices, but he isn't well known.

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LOL,,Boco is stuck in Pakistanada and taking it out on the U.S.A.Dont you have to go comb your hair or take a selfie or something? [/quote]
Calm down Karen,
Its not your fault a retard took over your country,lol.

… boco you quit being naughty right this instant

… you understand me ?

You down at the Honky tonk CK?
Have a shot of whisky for me.

Ya Folla?

I've never had an issue with Belisle breaking springs

I think the dukes are over powdered

Marty at Canadian Coyote was selling the Nelson setters at the old price while he had his old stock. He did give everyone a heads up that once he orders new ones, the price will go up. That there is a good fella.

I guess the only USA BG you got to choose from is the RBG? I’d suggest to support your country and buy USA, but too many trappers are cheap and buy junk, then come on here to ask why they got problems and what kind of mods they have to do to their stuff….. then Hammer shows how to turn a pile of junk into a quantity hunk of steel……..but not everyone has skills like the Hammer……lol

You guys down there might not have heard of him, but there’s a guy in the US that’ll make you a good trap, I think his nick name is Kendell Obermier but not sure if that’s his real name. Real tough to find, very rare USA made quality traps. I’ve got a dozen of his finer big stuff……. I’d rather buy 2 or 3 of his than getting a dozen of the other garbage out there.

I see MTP has a 1000' of 3/32 7X7 cable for $83. When demand shrinks, price should follow. You could wait and buy your Belisle's then SW.

That would be true in an actual free market economy. When you have the government intervening with things such as tariffs, supply and demand gets skewed. You can't expect manufacturers to sell things for less than it costs to produce them, can you? If demand drops enough, the likelier scenario in that case would be to just stop production as Sleepy Creek has done.

Could have bought 6 for $220 this past weekend at the Buckarama hunting show in middle Ga.

GA Trapper's convention is about a month from now....I'll make a decision then.

I’ve got a bunch of new ones, dyed,for sale at $468 a dozen.

I bought my first 7 dozen many moons ago for $205 a dozen lol.

Might get you to hold me 6 of those along with 6 more of the reg jaw dipped MB750s....until November.

Who wants to bet that when this tariff stuff gets settled or things change, the price will still only rise?
That’s why if I see a deal, I usually buy it whether I need it or not. I’ve kicked myself for not scooping up the deal, but I’ve never been sorry that I’ve got too much ammo, traps, cable, ferrules……list goes on………lol

It’ll be interesting(,,,,and kinda sad) to see how many of the Canadian trap manufacturers are still in business a few years down the road

Elbozo’s up!

I don't own a single belisle 330 and hold my own beaver trapping!

Doom and gloom eh? The sky is falling……..lol

trappers do that all the time...

Maybe Boco can keep them in business.

They are Top Notch!!!

Boco likes Savegeau better

Don't think a beaver knows what trap they died in, Duke, Victor, they all work.

They all kill beaver (and otter), but up until Duke copied the Belisle design on jaws and spring latches I preferred Belisles.

There are few things more aggravating than the spring eyes going around the jaw corners, especially when an otter escapes because it did that. Or, fumbling with those floppy spring latches that you have to slide towards the jaws to get them to release on a cold day with the trap submerged...and they sometimes release when you don't want them to. And lastly, a fired trap with beaver or otter hair on the jaws where that body part pulled out because they dont close completely....it happens.

The Belisle design (and the new Duke) is not for the beaver...it's for me.

Lots of Canadian trappers to keep them in Buisness With lots of young trappers graduating every year and taking up the family lines.
More Indiginous groups buying loads of traps to distribute to their members also.
As for Myself,I am downsizing a lot of traps that I have that are obsolete.
As far as marten traps those are mostly LDL with a few belisles same with the beaver traps.I have more than enough than I will ever need.
I hope to put on some informal trapping instructions for young trappers on the rez who want to learn efficient and effective methods of taking marten beaver otter lynx and any other species that intrsts them.
Get them out on all their currently mostly vacant traplines.

A lot of other traps are imported and don’t seem to have increased in price this much. Could this be another Canadian company trying to price gouge because they can’t compete on a level playing field?

Nope its your govts version of a VATax on you called a tarrif.

Well now that roughy 1 in 4 Canucks are 1st generation immigrants, and that number is continuing to rise yearly, it won’t be long Boco til you can try and train the real Indians to trap. Just a guess, but I’m thinking that won’t go over very well with the powers that be…

Im an immigrant whats your point?

First gen, Boco? If so...where are you from?



Because the vast majority of trappers are hobby trappers. If a man was trying to support a family by fur trapping he would give up the idea after the first season due to having to sell pelts for less than it costs to produce them. Or else keep trapping and sign up for welfare to let the gov't support his family since he can't.

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"I hope to put on some informal trapping instructions for young trappers on the rez who want to learn efficient and effective methods of taking marten beaver otter lynx and any other species that intrsts them.
Get them out on all their currently mostly vacant traplines.
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What a great thing to do Boco, get those young men and women interested and started. Kudos to you sir

What a great thing to do Boco, get those young men and women interested and started. Kudos to you sir

Probably tells them how lousy the USA is while he's at it too.

I doubt a bunch of natives and what few trappers ARE ALLOWED to trap in Canada is enough to keep belisle going since ONLY people with registered traplines can trap up there!

I like the holding power of a belisle but don't really like using them as they don't fit H stands worth a flip and can't cross stick them like you can other type 330's, i have a set that i have to do that with and it's not possible with a belisle.

As for springs flopping around and otter and beaver getting out, SW it sounds like you got some of those flimsy weak Sleep Creek junk 330's a long time ago. Those were the worst 330's ever invented.

Boco was born in Ireland. Haven't you guys been paying attention?

The manufacturer didn't raise the price the trap suppliers buy the traps for the same price and then pay the tarriff when it crosses the border.

Jtrap you don't need a registered trapline to trap in Canada

Awesome! Same thing going on here up north, and I assume in other provinces. Some kids stick to it and keeps them out of the gangs. Some do the gang life and return to the bush life after they get out of jail.
In Manitoba, trappers getting their certification is a problem, especially up north but that’s changing. And the COs know this. They’re not generally gonna ding a kid that’s all trained up with a mentor and just waiting on paperwork……..it’s a different life up there.



Those are two of the most very uneducated comments I’ve heard this morning, and I’ve got CNN on………it’s still early but that’ll be tough to beat……lol
I honestly question if you even trap, or maybe just doable with a set every now and then……. Nothing wrong with that BTW, just gotta watch what you comment on cuz you’ll get called out on a trappers forum if we smell BS.

lol …. Yeah!…. Jtrap has only caught a couple nutria his entire life lol

I don’t have any Belisle’s, but the last few old school Duke Magnums I bought were sure overpowered. Bent the spring eyes setting two of em. Got a dozen Bridgers last spring to stock back up and was super happy with everything about them. Though I know Belisles are the Cadillac, just couldn’t justify it for my case. Happy trapping! ScottW

More native(and non native) trappers certainly would be good thing

But the numbers wouldn’t be even close to making up for being shut out(priced out) of the US market,,,

If that’s what is actually being discussed here,,,,

I’m not knocking the immigrants, just simply stating that in today’s world, assimilation is not overly common. I go up north to Canada a couple times a year and have done so for the past 35 years or so. It is shocking to see the cultural change that has occurred in many places up there. I’m simply saying that the influx from India and SE Asia are probably not going to keep our great shared tradition alive. No need to be but hurt. I admire your trapping skills Boco, they are much better than your diplomatic skills…. LOL

No big deal on 330 prices. The beaver boom is old news. All the cool kids are buying mink traps now.

Not sure who he/she is, but has difficulty making sets with Belisles, and the statement on something they know nothing about is a couple things I found strange coming from an experienced trapper. We all know that rules are different state to state, even county to county. If I'd make a mistake like that, I'd expect to get grilled here and rightfully so.
What keeps the site relevant is calling out and correcting BS with facts, otherwise it'll wind up like a FB group full of 200lb wolves and other BS stories.....lol

I suspect Kidd found the post humorous for the same reason I did. Jtrapper traps for a living, lol.

But it is my understanding that because of his lack of skills he is very poor.

I heard he was afraid of snakes and won't get out of the truck!!

Shakeyjake,
Jtrap has killed more beavers and other critters using traps than you have ever seen...even from the top of a powerpole.

Now I'm taking heat for calling out bad information about trapping regulations in another country, and for wondering why a trapper is having difficulties setting up a B330?

The two statements had me kinda baffled coming from someone that you say has trapped for a while. Canadian regulations, and B330s with stands and sticks. I've never had these problems using all kinds of mish mashed stands........and sticks are sticks.......make it work. If someone prefers a different brand and they're used to them, whatever blows your hair back man.

Sounds like one or two are a bit butt hurt over my comments........except Jtrap. You know why? Jtrap probably doesn't give a rip and doesn't need to prove anything to anyone......lol.
So if a newbie stated false info & mentioned issues using certain traps, it'd be OK if they were corrected, but an experienced trapper gets the pass for doing the same thing?

OK. Back to super expensive Belisles. If they're too much $$, just use what you got and stack fur.

I stack fur with mostly Victor's. I like the way the old school safeties flop. Ioose so I can swing them on or off. Can't get use to those flat safeties that are stiff and don't spin freely. Have them on another brand of traps and took them off. And put on some of the kind I like.
Sometimes it just what you're use to and comfortable with. As long as folks are trapping and doing their thing. THAT'S WHAT MATTERS!
I stabilize 330's like jtrap and can see what he means with the sticks.

Back to prices lol Shakey.

Im good with it. Prices have been rising my whole life. Probably have more 330's than I could ever use anyways.
Bought a stack of used victor 330's i like from a guy that sold them cheap and switched to belisles during the first craze of them.

Swamp, time to get a job so you can afford the finer traps in life I guess, eh?

I can't figure out why people have to keep buying new traps, if the old new ones were so good? I haven't bought a new trap in probably 20 years. Half my traps I bought before that were used.

Traps get stolen, traps get taken out by an excavator and some start to lose strength. I like a strong trap not an over powered one.

Wow I bought 10 new ones for 20 bucks apiece about 6 weeks ago from a guy getting rid of all his gear

I think you need to check some statistics.
Canada produces half the beaver taken anually in North America (WFMC).
Canadians beaver trappers use bodygrips for the vast majority of their harvest compared to US trappers.
Probably why the best bodygrip traps were developed and manufactured in Canada.
Bodyfrip use is restricted or banned in many parts of the USA
According to this thread it seems many US trappers prefer to use inferior traps if the price is less
So even if belisle sauvageau and LDL were not sold at all in the USA there will still be a big enough market in Canada to keep them going just fine.
Plus if the US tarrifs remain any company using Canadian steel will get a sub from the govt to protect jobs and the economy.
If US wants to use protectionist policys for their economy we can too albeit in a different way..

Cost benefit analysis.

Be a govt trapper like J trap then the government will buy you all the traps you need.
Hows that for a cost benefit analysis.

I always figured that it is not worth saving 10 bucks on a trap if I lose a 400$ wolverine

So the real takeaway from all this is that Jtrap needs to learn to shove sticks in the mud next to his traps. Will someone down there please swing by and help the guy out?

Nah,,,,,the real takeaway is economic illiteracy drives people towards socialism

I just use my stronger 330's ( Some makes are kind of old and still strong) for wolverine and otter and my weaker models for beaver in drowning situations. Many times those beaver need to get (flop a little) to water to prevent other scavengers from getting them. I don't know what the cost is for broken fingers?

I make more $$ than you and I'm retired.

Are you ever gonna swerve back over and stay in your lane?

Nah.....the real takeaway is that I'll just keep my money, use what I have, and hope wolverines never make it this far south.

Unless y

Most of, if not all your 330's, will probably kill wolverine. Mine do.

This whole thread is funny lol.

We aim to please!

Then stop your crying.

OK, But who has the lowest Golf handicap?

Golf?

Communism … Canadian’s acting like they’ve ever done anything of real merit…. Jtrap getting more accolades than he deserves…. An old give out game warden struttin around like a banty rooster …. This thread has it all lol

Why can't we all get along? This trap, that trap. Everyone wants a trap. Now that's funny.

Sarge

A skinflint game warden at that, lol.

Same holds true with wolf. Lots of new comers opting for an inferior trap as it's cheaper and they can get more steel out. Then come out asking for reasons why they can't get any success.

How bout this.....
I'm taking my grampas old sporterized Lee Enfield 303 on a $20000 sheep hunt next year. Guide says the average shot taken is + or - 400ish yards, and I can comfortably group 4" at 100yds with gramps old gun with no rifling left. If I connect, the animal can't tell the difference between and $8000 7PRC or gramps old $50 303 British. The $8000 gun is capable of delivering terminal performance accurately out to said ranges, but the British can kill too and way cheaper. Even a gut shot will kill it eventually right?
It's not like it's a $100000 hunt. Stupid? Yes.....Ethical? No, but who cares? Dead is dead.

I used to guide sheep hunters. The average shot is 400 yards? Never had anybody take a 400 yard shot.

P.S. I think you will be fine.

See! I got called out on my BS…….lol